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  1. Another thought occurs at this point, but given the relaunch and fans attitudes in general how this will be affecting sales between now and September. After all, if this is going to be a major reboot, why bother picking up or getting interested in any new titles or stories starting up between now and then? Sure, it's only 3 months which doesn't seem like much for the company (sure, so maybe 52 new titles will recoup any loss... right), but this seems like the Comic retailers are going to be taking it in the shorts, and if this relaunch or whatever doesn't hit it off and BIG, isn't DC essentially helping kill the direct market?
  2. Given Cyborg is on the JLA from the getgo, that there is a new Birds of Prey series scheduled, and that the new GL book mentions stuff happening from Blackest Night/Brightest Day, i don't think this is a Crisis style reboot. But im gonna wait n see over the next couple of months. Hope for the best that i'll still be collecting DC by the end of the year, or plan for the worst and stay hooked on Dark Horse and IDW titles. :P
  3. After getting burned two films running, given what tickets cost, and the overall premise, im not surprised folks would be hesitant to see the movie. If it weren't for the fact Fox will never (eeeeeeVER!) let the film rights revert back to Marvel, i would actually hope this movie dies a horrible painful death at the box office. But at this point im just hoping for a decent flick at this point.
  4. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Arnabas View Post
    This makes me suspect he's never actually spoken to the current fans.
    if we're talking Dan DiDio or most of the DCE marketing people, you're probably right. If we're talking Johns and Lee, i dunno. They run the con circuit pretty hard. But would a linewide reboot really bring in the sales DC is expecting? (oh great and this means we're in for yet ANOTHER Legion of Super heroes reboot? ****!)
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    Originally Posted by Wooden_Replica View Post
    Agreed, or at least do an Ultimate Comics style secondary line
    Right, because All-Star Batman & Robin was such a great idea.

    in all seriousness, they already had plans for an 'Ultimate' line, the Earth One GN. So if theyre doing a linewide reboot, does it mean theyre scrapping the Earth One lines?
  6. I blame Jerry Siegel & Joe Shuster.
  7. So we're talking a full relaunch from the ground up? ala Crisis? i... don't know how i feel about this if that's the case. Because i dont know if i want to go through seeing more year one/the big heroes at the beginning of their career stuff. Im gonna see what happens before i ragequit.
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    AT4W: Ultimatum

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    Originally Posted by Lord_Nightblade View Post
    I don't think I've ever understood why the comics industry feels the need to have some sort of in-universe explanation every time they decide to hit the reset button on their universes. They should just tie up the major loose ends and start over. It's much simpler that way.
    Ultimatum was & wasn't a reset button. A lot of titles were canceled and rebooted. But it didn't start everything over from the origin point. Also the reason they dont perpetually end/restart whole universes are the fans, at least the fans who actually pay for the comics. The idea is to hold onto the old fans while bringing in new ones. Sure, you could intro entirely new lines, but thats too big a risk for some publishers to take.

    Also, this review needs more Manimal!
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    Kung Fu Panda 2

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    Originally Posted by Amy_Amp View Post
    Well, it made less than the original did opening weekend and this one had the benefit of a holiday weekend.
    True, but it had some pretty nasty competition to overcome. But as long as it breaks 100$ million, i see them churning out more sequels. Not that i mind, KFP is pretty amusing.
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    Originally Posted by Sevenpenny View Post
    steampunk computer, ftw!

    I am sure that this was probably posted before....however steampunk computers are just full of win!
    New to me. Everytime a steampunk PC link comes up, its usually the one of the laptop.
  11. Such excellent detail! Now gimme the knife so i can destroy it and feast on the pain of the cake makers!
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    Kung Fu Panda 2

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    Originally Posted by Ironik View Post
    It's going to need to do a lot better if that plan is going to happen.
    As long as they make money, i don't foresee them not milking the frak out of the franchise.
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    Originally Posted by Golden Girl View Post
    Retcons are a big feature of comics, Foxpaw, because comics were never intended to have much continuity - they were aimed at teenage boys, with the expectation that they'd only read comcis for a few years before moving on to something else, which meant that the writers could reuse storylines and situations several times, as well as ignoring what early writers had done with characters, because it was assumed that the current readers would be new to comics, and wouldn't know about the earlier stories or events.
    Actually, the stories were generally aimed at folks younger than the teenage boy set. At least as far as the spandex clad dominated books went. During the '50s and '60s, the market was just as dominated by non superhero books as by anything else. The problem here is that virtually no one working in the medium took it seriously. Over at Marvel, Stan Lee was probably crapping out nearly ten to twenty stories a month, while artists were busy churning out as much art as possible, because if you didnt work, you didnt get paid. SO no one really paid much attention to the continuity. Plus, they completely reinvented almost every hero you can think of (and invented a whole new slew of them) in the 1960s.

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    The major continuity problems started when teenagers began to continue with comics when they were adults - fans began to appear who'd been reading comics for a couple of decades, instead of the assumed couple of years, so the wirters were forced to come up with all kinds of wacky ideas to explain how the casual throw-away stories and series were actually all linked together - which caused a massive amount of retcons, which are still continuing today.
    Yes and no. IMO folks really started paying attention to continuity when the direct sale market took off. Instead of throwing away the comics like they used to, finally there was a place the fanboys could gather and even pick up the back/missing issues from their collections. And newsstand sales were falling off. The problem is the explanations tended to make sense to the fans, but not so much to new readers.

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    Originally Posted by Foxpaw View Post
    Why don't they just not retcon?
    Because the general public knows who Spider-Man, Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, and a handful of other heroes are. The ones who pay attention also know the secret identities of these people. But it makes no sense if these folks were originally introduced in the '30s, the '60s, and whatever and are still active today and look exactly like they did when first introduced. They retcon in order to keep readers from feeling disconnected from the characters, and to make the stories fit with all the other characters being created today.
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    Originally Posted by Mr_Grey View Post
    It's apparently more profitable to keep rehashing Superman or Wolverine's origin and adventures than to show them guiding the next generation of heroes or getting anything actually accomplished.
    Yes it is. Because the ones who keep coming back, reading and buying the comics are the old fans. People who read the stories when they were younger and want to see those heroes, not the new ones that took over when they stopped reading and left for whatever reason. Sure, folks gripe how nothing ever progresses in comics, but those are usually the first ones to scream bloody murder when they pick up a comic after not reading for five or ten years and scream at the top of their lungs "THEY DID WHAT!?!?!"
  15. The other side of that are the folks who slaughter heroes and villains left and right to make their stories "more visceral", or to create a false sense of drama because they can't do it any other way. An example being Bendis who essentially wiped out Alpha Flight in an off panel fight, or whoever was writing the new XMen post Decimation and blew up most of the now depowered mutants on a bus.

    If the written deaths weren't handled so poorly, perhaps they wouldnt be so quick to reverse them.
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    AT4W: Ultimatum

    Marvel's the biggest offender editorially (so i've been told). the folks who actually do the editing are spending more of their time trying to hang out with the big name writers and artists than doing they're jobs, which some of them don't even want to be doing in the first place.

    Someone needs to hit these people with a stick.
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    Fast Five

    Friends went to see it, they loved it. Only reason i havent gone is i frakked up my foot and getting around is a pain. Gonna try to see it once im all healed up.
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    Originally Posted by PowerStream View Post
    Why is NBC so determined to kill off this show? How many times have they brought it back from the brink now? Three? Four? This will surely end it. All I can say is whatever they put to replace it better be awesome or my Mondays will be free again.
    Actually the show's been pretty weak this season, and IMO because they actually develop the characters, it's always had a shelf life. his journey from zero to hero has always been what the show is about, and once the trip was done whats left that would really make the show all that different from any other spy themed show to keep it going much longer than a season or two?
  19. Strong start and we get the lame finish. well, par for the course really with this series. still, crap as the ending was, they did use some of the john williams theme and it was beyond awesome having Schneider and Rosenbaum back on the show, the scenes with Pa Kent and Lex almost make the meh-tacular ending worth it. Almost.

    Now it's time to wait another five years before we get another live action Superman-based TV show. With any luck, the CW will be dead and buried by then.
  20. Watching the replay and thus far it's been dead on. Don't know if ill watch through till the end of the season because of it. Without spoiling it, there's some pretty dark **** down the road and no real light at the end of the tunnel the way there was for Blood & Sand.
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    Originally Posted by Ahab001 View Post
    Hmmm a war with Super Smart Apes vs Humans.

    Lets see what the apes have going for them.
    1. They have been alter to be as smart as us.
    2. 3 times stronger than us.
    Ok sure thats some good advantages.

    Lets see what the humans have going for them.
    1. There are more of us.
    2. Tech. Tanks, guns, nukes, fighter jets and helicoppers etc.

    And the apes win? I dont think so. This is why i couldnt get into the orginals
    i think you've just listed the reasons why i have difficulty
    accepting most zombie apocalypse scenarios. as for some other smart species dominating the planet over us, i can dig it. being smart enough to use tools is one thing, but if they observe us using our tools and turn that against us, yeah, i can see someone overreacting and screwing the pooch because of it.

    as for the original series, the first two were the only ones worth watching. after that, it turned to crap. in this case, we're not even going to get THAT far before it turns to grok.

    mebbe we'll get lucky and just before he dies at the end Franco hits the button the blows the whole damn thing up.
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    Chuck 4/11/11

    So this is what we're left with as decent villains on this show? i miss Roark and Shaw.
  23. Quote:
    Originally Posted by CaptainFoamerang View Post
    Zod as the villain for the first movie in a franchise reboot makes a lot of sense, because there's a lot of opportunity for the creative team to explore what separates Superman from Zod, in the sense that we're lucky that it was Kal-El that came to Earth and Ma and Pa Kent found and raised him in addition to the contrast of motivations and values.
    If we can get away from the Superman as Christ figure allegory and get back to him as the ultimate immigrant, i know id be happier.
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    Originally Posted by That_Ninja View Post
    Actually no, you find out the Black Avatar is Swamp Thing with Holland's conscious gone and replaced with the black entity (or something) and The Green has become The Black.
    yeah, caught on to that after i read the book.
  25. Doesn't look too bad. Might be willing to drop matinee money on it.