Tyger42

Welcome to 3 weeks ago.

I think "wife aggro" carries far more weight. The SG can't make your life outside of the game a living hell if they feel you aren't paying enough attention to them. Well, they could if they were crazy stalker-y types, but that's a whole other issue.

Funny, because that's exactly what "moral obligations" refer to.

But, no, you're not "morally obligated" to report bugs and exploits. Just to not abuse them when you find them. I think it's a bit...jerkish to leave them unreported, but that's just me. That's not the same as saying you have a "moral obligation" to report them. There's a difference between consideration for your fellow players ( and the devs ) and "moral obligations".

Morality enters into it when it comes to abiding by the contract you've agreed to. It comes down to honesty there, which most certainly -is- a morality issue. Just because economics is involved doesn't mean that changes. ( Of course, the contract in question here doesn't say you have to report bugs when you find them, just that you won't abuse them )

Only by the most stupidly liberal definitions of the term.

Game's based in America, so the point still stands. Besides, I think the principle is just as true there as it is here, anyway.

I'd like to see that character. MAKE IT SO!

How does it not make sense? It's not like they're going to be retconning him out of the lore completely. In CoH lore, States is apparently a big deal....you don't think he'd be memorialized? An homage on the login screen as well makes perfect sense.

Welcome to America.

Actually, it is still true. For most people, the money "gate" is just as much a deterrent from "flipping a switch" at their leisure as the time gate. Just because you have wads of cash to throw around for every convenience in the game if you wanted to doesn't mean everybody does.

However, it is just that: a convenience. It's not game-breaking if those who do have tons of disposable income throw it at this purchase every day. But the people able to and willing to do that are going to be rare. Even for those who have the resources, it's not a big enough thing that I'd think a lot will drop the funds on it, especially since it can be done in game with a little more time. Ultimately, it's no bigger a deal than a vanity pet.

Edit: And I love that last line. It's like the people in WoW trying to whine about not enough PvP support by saying "It's World of **WAR***craft!1!111one!" Quit inserting your own implications into the title.

It's not that they demand me to quit, but I'm sure as hell going to put them before a random PUG if they're looking for forces to pull off a trial or some such. Especially if the PUG is going bad. Yeah, I'm going to be more reluctant to leave the PUG if it's a TF or whatever, but if we're just running tips or something? I'm perfectly willing to ditch in a heartbeat in favor of an SG raid.

Naturally I'll give warning and wait for a convenient time. I won't just drop without a word in the middle of an AV fight.

The beast at Tenagra?

Avid MMO RPer for 12 years now. Tabletop gamer before that. Your response is utter ( Udder? ) bull fertilizer. Frankly, "RPers" like you are exactly why we have a bad reputation among non-RPers.

Edit: Let me clarify: If you require everybody around you to conform to your ideals of "IC Immersion" in order to immerse yourself in the game and can't bring yourself to overlook those who don't, then you're a bad RPer. Period. Not everyone in the game is going to RP the same as you or even RP at all. Part of being a good RPer is working around that.

No, L's hair kinda fits the emo-like image. I guess Kira's might, too. But are you gonna answer the question or just jump at the "take petty jabs at anime" bandwagon so you can convince yourself that you're "l33t"....?

How are the current male long hair options "emo-like"?! ( Medium, Long, Barbaric, Pony Tail, Topknot, and Qin... )

Yes, but not as much time. They've set the "price" to where they want it with the gate. Quick question about the tokens, though: Is there a cooldown timer on them?

Not really. As others have said, you either pay for it with time or pay for it with money. It's not that difficult a concept to grasp. I don't see you whining about being able to buy cape and aura unlocks....

I can assure you that I'll care. I'm totally not willing to pay for something that I can earn in-game for free. That simple. And I'm far from alone in that. Why should I give a flying rat's @#$ how others do it?

Which isn't uncommon or necessarily a fault. Would you have high expectations of a chess player who called the knights "horsies"? The impression one would get from such a thing might turn out to be wrong, but that doesn't mean one is wrong for having said expectations. If one presents themselves as immature by speaking in such a manner, then that's the image that a lot of people are going to form.

Deny it all you want, but EVERYBODY judges other people on immediate first impressions, and almost always on seemingly trivial things. The mark of a person's quality is how readily they're willing to re-assess that judgment down the line as more information is gained about the other person.

My point was that the word would have migrated over without that incident. It had already been established in MMO communities, sadly. No single event "made it relevant" here. Aside from the creation of the game as an MMO.

Nah, "Mob" dates all the way back to the early days of MUDs.

Only in your own little fantasy world.

However, all said, I'm not saying not to use the term. You're free to call them whatever you want. But that doesn't mean I'm not free to find it an annoying and childish term.

...except that "toon" to refer to MMO characters existed before COH was even a spark in whacko Jacko's eye. So, it may be an answer, but it's an inaccurate one.


....try reading the post you quoted there, skippy. Because your reply totally missed what was said.

Let's try this again: Cartoon = the animated film/short/etc. NOT Bugs Bunny. Bugs Bunny is a cartoon CHARACTER, not a cartoon. ( The term "toon" to refer to characters such as Bugs Bunny comes from WFRR, and the characters referenced in that were all the "loony tunes"-esque characters. Hence the association carries over for a lot of people when used to refer to MMO characters ) Raiders of the Lost Arc is a movie. Indian Jones is a movie CHARACTER, not a movie. 24 is a TV show. Jack Bauer is a TV show CHARACTER, not a TV show.

Get it? Or do I need to use smaller words?

NOBODY refers to COH as a "cartoon". Most call it a "game". Why, then, would you use a term ascribed to cartoon characters to refer to the characters from a game? "Char" is just as short and FAR more accurate. By the way, I've never seen anyone use the term "toon" to refer to, say, Lara Croft, either. So it's specifically MMO characters. Are there enough holes in the "Well, it's because video games are animated pictures and animated pictures = cartoons" theory yet? I could go on to point out how that definition makes ALL films "cartoons"....

No, but the characters called "toons" in it were the zany, slapstick kids' cartoon stars...

You're the problem here. You're dismissing common perception. Nobody perceives "painting" as meaning anything less than what the Mona Lisa is. Most people in the US, however, have a rather immature perception of what a "cartoon" is. But, again, no one's calling video game character's "cartoons", so saying it's just a shortening of that is nonsense. No one has EVER used the "long version". As I said before, they're not calling them "short for Cartoon". They're specifically calling them "toons". Which is a term that previously applied to a very specific type of cartoon character. It's not that we're ascribing meaning that doesn't exist. It's that you are refusing to accept meaning that DOES exist.