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The difference is that Gotham takes place in a comic book and Galaxy Park in an MMORPG. There's nothing wrong with Galaxy Park's atmosphere, only that its layout could be improved for the flow of play.
The smaller starting populations of CoV and GR require compression into one zone in order to avoid empty maps, but CoH's seems to be on the cusp between crowding into one zone or dividing into two sparse ones. Although the devs are apparently loathe to either remove or refurbish content, playing up the atmospheric differences between the polished Atlas Park and the gritty Galaxy City in order to establish player loyalties wouldn't be too demanding an undertaking and could be folded into the direly needed revamp of blueside starting content. -
Quote:This is one of those occasions where my first reaction is sheer disbelief - it feels like it can't be true, but sadly, it is.The BBC has confirmed the passing of Elisabeth Sladen, best known for her role as Sarah Jane Smith in DOCTOR WHO and THE SARAH JANE ADVENTURES. Information first appeared on Twitter, and was later confirmed by DOCTOR WHO MONTHLY magazine via their Twitter account.
Her performance as Sarah Jane Smith made that character the pre-eminent companion of the classic series. She could scream convincingly at rubber monsters and hold her own in witty banter with Jon Pertwee and Tom Baker. She was like Lois Lane and Hildy Johnson for the Time Lord.
Quote:Sarah: Don't forget me.
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Should the Avengers be a bigger hit than the Spider-Man and Batman franchises combined, Whedon still will never get as much creative freedom than if he produced another self-financed web-only project. The tradeoff naturally is that he wouldn't get the same access to big budgets or iconic established properties.
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Well, that and the devs' reluctance to rennovate established content. I'm not suggesting wholesale gentrification in order to attract a better class of supervillain, though. Giving Freedom Court more prominence in its immediate surroundings, the way Freedom Plaza does in Kings Row, or explanding the arena's neighborhood to make it feel more like a sports center would open up the map without detracting from its character. Right now, its streets are too cramped and tangled for a good rampage, its buildings too much of an architectural melange for a would-be world conqueror to imagine as impressive ruins. Galaxy City needs the equivalent of a special economic zone program, except for super-powered mayhem.
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Quote:Very interesting. The Wall Street Journal confirmed that sales figure a week ago, so it's probable that there are still some international deals to be done. The generally good reviews the premiere received will doubtless help that.So that's about $6 million per episode and if they're getting as much as $2.5 million per episode from some overseas sales like the Hollywood Reporter claims, then they've more than earned back their production+marketing cost.
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From a game design standpoint, Atlas Park is simply the better map. Blueside players are also more familiar with it since there are more reasons to return once they've graduated to levelling in other zones. As for the villains, they go where the heroes are.
Although I often use Galaxy City to start out alts when I don't want to deal with the hustle and bustle of Atlas Park, I have to admit that the latter's layout flows better. The location of City Hall plaza makes for a better hub, whether for starting missions or services*, and its immediate surroundings aren't so tightly packed or built up. Flying overhead (or viewing it through a portal scanner or on a holographic table map) reveals an impressive vista taking in much of the zone.
Freedom Court, boxed in by skyscrapers, is shunted off to the side. Its sightlines don't take in nearly as much of the zone. The main attractions - Galaxy Girl's statue, the arena, the monorail, and AE - are detached from each other in the wider neighborhood and can't form a cohensive sense of space. Since no particular geographic element dominates the rest of the map, the zone's that much less attractive for a villain's domination.
Galaxy City basically is in need of urban renewal. Whichever dev designed Imperial City and Nova Praetoria should be assigned the task of rennovating this neglected zone. If not, then War Witch should seriously ask herself the reason for its continued existence in the game.
* Edit: Atlas Park, with Vanguard, Fort Trident, Wentworth's, and Vault Reserve located in it, has many more service locations than Galaxy City, which has only an arena to distinguish itself. Atlas also boasts the Abandoned Sewers Trial NPC and connects to more zones. -
Quote:But have they officially? While the international rights have been selling quickly in numerous markets, HBO has said this season cost about $60M, and the $100M number has been rumored. That puts the series well in the same ballpark as one of the individual Lord of the Rings movies.Apparently they made their money back with overseas sales before it even aired, so DVDs and such will be gravy.
Good for HBO for taking another gamble on unusual subject matter (if Starz's decidely lower budget Camelot doesn't saturate the audience). It's a very big gamble, though. -
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Quote:Warren Ellis elaborates on his blog:
I was and will continue to work on a very, very different Internet mini-thing that I was writing with Warren Ellis, and I have a lot of ideas for things I want to put up there. I still believe it’s a viable financial model, and a creative playground and I miss it.
Quote:What he’s talking about is WASTELANDERS. The deal is that, basically, whenever he’s ready, I’m ready. We have a ******** of notes, and chunks of script. Although I need to rewrite all of my bits because they’re terrible and I never showed them to him (not least because the poor ******* was busy enough at that point). -
Quote:"Joss'ed" characters tend to stay dead more frequently than others in assorted genres, but I suspect that if Whedon were to bring Day's character back for a sequel, he'd pull a Monkey's Paw-style twist and make the fans wish he hadn't (in the best way).Since Felicia's character died, I dunno how'd she come back for the sequel.... unless it's flashbacks... or Dr. Horrible finds a way to raise her from the dead.
That said, I was struck by how much lingering affection Whedon had for this ostensibly one-shot DYI gig, particularly when he'd already done several TV series and a major motion picture and has an even bigger project underway, but it was the first time he'd ever had absolute control over a project. Launching Dr. Horrible in a comparatively untested medium, with only his finances behind it, he must have experienced quite a thrill when it worked. -
New York Times arts beat reporter Dave Itzkoff recently interviewed Joss Whedon about his various ongoing projects, which incidentally includes a sequel to Dr. Horrible's Sing-a-long Blog, the world's first (and thus far only) web-delivered supervillain musical:
Quote:Dr. Horrible remains one of the most successful experiments in web-only content - although Felicia Day's ongoing MMORPG web series The Guild is breathing down its neck - so it's interesting to hear how much Whedon wants to continue with it.Q. Its been almost three years since Dr. Horrible was first released. What does it mean to you now?
A. It means, what the hell have we been doing? Wheres the damn sequel? The shame. Mostly that. And it remains one of the purest experiences of my life. It just makes me happy all the time. It wasnt like anything else. {...}
Q. What about producing it Off Broadway? Or even on Broadway?
A. We have spoken of that much. Especially every time Jed comes back from New York Weve just got to do it! Come on, we just write some more songs to make these longer! Because some of us have sat through Spider-Man.
Q. Does that include you?
A. [after a pause] I neither confirm nor deny. And you kind of go, Hey, lets do something for no money. Which is the same feeling we had about TV and movies when we made Dr. Horrible. But I would say my heart is more in the idea of the sequel. Weve done a lot of work on it.
Q. Really?
A. Oh, yeah. Weve got several songs near completion and weve got a very specific structure. Weve just all got jobs. And its not like Neil, Nathan and Felicia aint busy either. We get together at Christmas and family occasions, and then play each other our partial songs and go, Yup, thats still exactly as it was the last time we played it. Were great. Its bad.
Q. Is there anything you can say yet about what the Dr. Horrible sequel will be?
A. Its going to be Dr. Horrible and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. And its going to be just as good as the other one. I dont know why people are upset about that title. And by the way, by the time we finish it, Neil will be just as old. No, Im not saying anything.
Q. Youve had other projects that ended, perhaps, in ways you didnt want them to, or before you wanted them to-
A. Im sure I dont know what you mean.
Q. -so after something like Dr. Horrible, are you ever tempted to chuck it all and only produce things for the Internet?
A. Im more than tempted. Im a little obsessed. And after Dr. Horrible, I thought, well, somebody will come around. I talked at great length and planned at great length the idea of a portal and putting shows together, having an Internet identity and starting my own little micro-studio. Nobody in town was interested, and then by the time they were, Avengers came around. I was and will continue to work on a very, very different Internet mini-thing that I was writing with Warren Ellis, and I have a lot of ideas for things I want to put up there. I still believe its a viable financial model, and a creative playground and I miss it. But in the year that I was supposed to do that, I instead decided to make this little Sundance movie that Im making.
Q. I certainly hope you find distribution for it.
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Quote:It is - the Saul Bass homage is wonderful. Then again, its sense of style and fun wouldn't fill the theater seats the way they must today. The official one, as a purely commercial piece, is trying to advertise the movie and nothing more. "From the Studio that Brought You Iron Man"!In the spirit of the Retro Star Wars Travel Posters, here's the website of graphic artist Olly Moss. He does cool stuff, such as the awesome Thor poster Marvel commissioned him to make for the film's cast and crew. So much better than the actual posters, isn't it?
Incidentally, here's another retro-style superhero movie poster that's a lot more fun than any official one:
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From the graphical information workshop that brought us the Evolution of Video Game Controllers and the Grand Taxonomy of Rap Names, here is the Illustrious Ominbus of Super Powers (zoomable version):
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Quote:As I've said, I'm fascinated by flops and the case of Sucker Punch as such is intriguing. The only question now is if it will count as a fiasco or a failure. In the eyes of Hollywood studios, its foreign box office (it's not going to lose much in translation) is probably going to boost it, barely, from the former category to the latter. It's not going to kill any careers in the spectacular fashion of flops like Heaven's Gate or Gigli, but it's going to be a long time before anyone greenlights a live-action anime-style flick with that kind of budget.And it's just kind of a funny that you've washed your hands of this thread a few times yet feel the need to come back and mount a case against the film that appears to be based entirely on the thoughts and reactions of others over and over again.
In one respect, Sucker Punch counts as an undeniable success. Snyder wanted to take a whole mess of his favorite geek tropes - robotzombienazisamuraibrazilstrippersshockcorridor steampunkdragoncgi - and put it on the silver screen. He got $82 million of other people's money to do that. Well played, I suppose.
Here's the one thing that I won't say about Sucker Punch: It doesn't matter. For anyone who loves geek-centric movies, as we all do here, the compelling issue is how its failure will reverberate through the studios when other such movie projects are considered for production. At the moment, the message is that "fanboy" material is an acceptable bet only if namebrand A-list superheroes are involved - and we'll see if the summer of Thor, Captain America, X-Men, and Green Lantern is their next wave or merely their ebb. But a wholly original fantropic project backed only by a director's vision and reputation isn't likely to survive the first pitch meeting, which suggests we're in for dry spell. -
Quote:Yet here your again, emoticons and all.It's certainly devolved into less of a discussion and more of a circle-jerk of this film's decriers, and I was happy just to let this thread be, so long as I pointed that out.
As long as I'm here, I'd like to keep supplying related links of interest. For instance, Sucker Punch's rep is so bad, other directors are publicly calling B.S. on it. -
Quote:There isn't a debate here, just the continuing news of Sucker Punch's downward spiral. There are only the facts and consensus on one side, and you've got your personal opinion on the other. I'm merely the messenger (increasing my post count).See, I'm not all too interested in taking it upon myself to throw the full weight of my ego behind upholding one of the extreme sides of the debate over the quality of this film, because I think there's better uses for my time. This is obviously where we differ.
I admit, though, I am fascinated by the phenomenon of Sucker Punch, just as I am with flops of all kinds. -
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Quote:In that case, there's a Worldwide Web's worth of comments sections for you to defend it in. Devoting your energies here is but a distraction from the larger battles for the honor of Zack Snyder.Oh it's not a personal favorite. Although I haven't seen the owl movie yet, this is my least favorite Snyder film. I've already said it has its flaws as a result of the risks and experiments Snyder included, but it certainly doesn't merit all the doom-crying.
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Quote:With the evidence in from all sides - film reviewers, audiences, and the cold hard box office figures - Sucker Punch is shaping up to be an object lesson in failed geek-centric auteurism and a black mark on the director's already spotty career. If it's a personal favorite of yours, then you'll have to mount a very eloquent defense to overcome all that.Cheap but occasionally entertaining. It's just so ******* adorable when folks put so much time and energy into ripping something on the Internet. Particularly when they make out their position to be the last vestige of reason and taste when they come upon the merest suggestion that someone else enjoyed the thing they didn't.
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Talk, and emoticons, are cheap, especially on the Internet.
Unless the next tactic Sucker Punch's defenders are going to try is suggesting that it's going to be a neglected classic ripe for appreciative rediscovery by the next generation of geeks, the only way to make a real impact on its fortunes is either to see it again in the theaters or convince friends and strangers to take a chance on it, i.e. to put their ticket money where their mouths are. That's just not happening.
Or to put it another way, when someone sees a movie that stumbles like Howard the Duck and sinks like Howard the Duck and quacks like Howard the Duck, then it's probably a box office turkey. -
Quote:And they can join a queue with the "critics have no taste/it's not for them" defenders of the movie against its overwhelmingly bad reviews of all stripes.And even then the folks who take the financial success as an indicator of public reception and quality right now can just switch their position to "making money doesn't make it good" later.
But the really damning indicator of this movie's failure is the dropoff ratio of its box office receipts to its screens. Kick-***, a similarly geek-centric hyped flick that had better reviews but was far from well received, managed to keep its audience levels even as the number of screens on which it was playing shrank. That indicator suggested that either people who had seen it once were willing to see it again or its word of mouth was good enough to keep its per screen earnings level (or both) - and this was in a more competitive moviegoing season. It wound up being a box office hit thanks to steady business.
Sucker Punch, despite a vocal minority of defenders, cannot seem to attract either new or repeat viewings. The producers who paid $82M for it are taking notice. -
Donnie Darko cost around $4.5M to produce (and related costs with releasing it were probably comparable). Sucker Punch's production budget was almost twenty times that, and its marketing campaign was at least eight figures. That's an awful lot to make up for with DVD sales.
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Quote:And yet the demographic of the producing studio is exactly old enough to remember it from their childhoods, and judging from their choice of villain, they want to go back there.the demographic audience isn't going to remember the old Superman 2 film anyway.....
Please confirm where Birthright is explicitly revealed to be the basis for this movie. So far that rumor seems to have the basis only in this unattributed story that mentions only West Africa as one of the settings. Otherwise, it sounds like bits and pieces are coming from here and there (in much the same way Batman Begins drew on disparate comics for its script).
edit: It's also standard operating procedure for Hollywood to take a piecemeal approach to comics sources (Batman, X-Men, Daredevil) since this tactic gets around the byzantine adaptation rules of the Writers Guild.
Quote:EDIT: But to be clear, I doubt that is the case as well. I was just being hopeful and trying to avoid all the "DOoooooom!" -
Quote:"As General Zod, Shannon will go toe-to-toe with Henry Cavill, who plays the new Clark Kent/Superman in the film," according to the Warner Brothers' announcement. That sounds more like a straightforward antagonist than a red herring.I actually have to wonder if this isn't intentionally misleading, with all the earlier press about Birthright being their inspiration. Zod could be a character either in the "past time viewing" device of Lex's, or he could be one of the fake Kryptonian's he employs to eff people up in the streets during the "invasion".