Tainted_Greek_EU

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Kin is pretty much essential at high level team arena/pentad

[/ QUOTE ] Arena is not the only PvP out there but ofc kin is indeed essential in pretty much all PvP teams

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You must've not seen a decent Fire/Em in action vs any squishy?

Or an Inv/SS tank in sirens? There is nothing easier to play solo in there.

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I have seen loads. Any self respected PvPer playing a squishie knows to keep distance from such situations.

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I don't seem to remember Smooth Operator being any challenge to take down, TG. He was even backed up by two kinetics, if I remember correctly.

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I wasnt there i cannot know and what Smooth operator has to do with all this?

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To kill an ice tank, you have to be able to do 3000+ damage in under 30 seconds. This just won't happen 1vs1, and in a team he's going to have an empath healing him as well.

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If you roll a tank to PvP 1vs1 let me grab teh pop corn and laugh

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Your PvP-fu is weak, old man.

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A lot to learn you got padawan

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Since the teams are tad unlikely to go after the tank first in any case

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Put 2 granite tanks in a team and back them up with a kinetics. Then assemble a secondary damage team to guard the kinetics close to the 2 tanks and instruct the 2 granites to aoe taunt and taunt everything in sight or coming near.

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Why not get a tank that doesnt have movement penalties and recharge penalties?

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Becausse the granite > then the rest regarding healing demand in PvP situations and more capabilities of damage absorption. Less healing demand means better mana efficiency for the rest of the team.

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The other primaries arent THAT easy to kill.

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Ofc not but granite is hard as a rock hardest than them all

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I also think granite is overrated

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So granites are overrated because in 3vp this guy not had a buffer?

We are talking proper teams and people with basic PvP grasp. If you plan a PvP team and bring a granite without a kinetics you are worth of the amount of pain that is coming your way.

The Granite set in PvP indeed has some standards that u need to meet as a team but the reward u get from it > all tank sets. This is one of the reasons it has more requirements in support than the rest tank sets

If you now want to solo in PvP as a tank there is one advice:

Reroll blaster/scrapper/controller hell even defender has better chances

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Might be a different matter in narrow corridors of a SG base

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All in all I really can reccomend PvP as an Empath

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Playing a PvP empath is one of the biggest adrenaline rush you can get from the Empathy set.

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They can still be taken down by a good team

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And this makes granites overrated? Any AT or player no matter how skilled they are can be taken down. There is no such thing as unbeateble or "i win button"

If you have a good team backing you up go granite get buffed and enjoy the ride or invul. Ice is pretty crappy compared to the gains you got from granite or Invul in open battles.

This is not a pve discussion so people can now stop talking tanks in PvE since this is not the subject of discussion.

If you want a good PvP tank and you know what a tank in PvP should do (which is not damage or kill stuff but basically lockdown attention of opponents) a "superman build" with full defense spec or my preferance a Stone tank with a buffer support if possible to not lose mobility.

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rad or TA

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Rad or TA Defenders have place only as kiters in large scale battles. They are 2 of those sets that need specific tasks in PvP situations with specific targets and good targeting and knowledge of their set. The ability to bring down the mobility and and the accuracy of specific targets is their strongest role. This is one of the reasons such sets excel in large scale battles and open pvp maps when there is proper coordination and tactics from a PvP team.

(Dont expect to find many such situations)

PvPing as a defender gets daft if u try to solo for 2 reasons:

1) Inability to take down targets fast enough
2)The amount of aggro u attract due to the blue sign appearing next to your name (THE GUY HAELS THEM PWN HIM)

As Extremus said: In PvP if u wanna play defender go for a buffer.

my money is on Columna and Singh <3

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shhhhh just keep looking at my avatar

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Hypnotic......avatar...must..avert....gaze.......!

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How about u also get out of WoW and come over to Paragon for a bit i give up ZG runs for i7^^ now get out u git and lets go Paragon with beers

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You mean you actually installed it again finally? :P

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shhhhh just keep looking at my avatar

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I'm out on that day but i'll try to make it back on time if its to go ahead............

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i think the guy in leotard aka original poster of this *pokes yo momma* should tell us i am all up for dancing around atlas with da real old gits of this community (after i am back from swimming at some beach during weekend,is summer u know). Just give us a heads up if someone is up for arranging this

although late i just wanted to say my congratz better late than never!!!well done was a long journey

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The long and short of it is, if your having a reunion of sorts, I would feel honoured to be able to pop along....

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So how about this....This sunday 20:00 GMT Atlas Park Old School Reunion Event...open up your msn and start calling your friends ??? Dime!!!i miss those nights too lol ^^

just to signal my return as i download i7

HAppy Birthday mate man hope u have a great day ^^

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Except all you did was make basic suggestions, and breaking through a line of people camping a base isnt as easy as "'Bamg' and the dirt is gone". This thread was dead, you missed the "the solution is obvious, you're just stupid" phase. So I have to ask :
"Did you use your head one tiny bit?"

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Why u ask rhetorical questions

Is indeed a loss for CoH that imaginary will go.Hope you roam Paragon again although myself am also tired at this point so i am on a break as well.I told Xanthus where u can find me if u decide to give it a go.Keep having fun Imag

hey you rocking choob happy birthday..sorry for delay but i cam back from an awful week only to roam the forums today
Catch you on msn!

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Maybe u havent proved the right people? O could be u did well when there were just a few PvPers and they didnt really know what do? And what else do i have to say to make u come out from whatever that has kept u away from pvp for quite a bit now?

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Tell me that the avatar girl is in PvP zones and needs taunting .Now that would work .Glad it was a good fight and u enjoyed it.Like i said unfortunately these days are bad for me as the fact that i ll be off for 6 days disconnected from whole world up in some mountain for that army thing has brought things upside down

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Been thinking about this, surely you cant snipe someone at the stealth cap as:

a. You have pretty much 0 chance of finding them.
b. They only need to take a few steps and brawl you out of snipe.

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Stalker hunter is not a 1vs1 thing.Is exactly like a stalker waiting his prey.Hover above heroes teams and wait the stalkers to appear and then start sniping.Plus keeping the stealth cap for too long on is not easy. You need try it first.

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What stalker kills u the most though TG ?

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Spines/SR Spines/ninjitsu

Nightmare.Due to the range attack.Although i am building a new build that can deal with them too

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Ah well, was still fun. I want to do it again when you have your power-team though. I've heard that Aria, Kof and TG are supposed to be super-awesome, I just want to see them back up words with actions.

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Gratz must have been nice fight TG,Kof and Aria still awsome as for actions i proved enough myself in PvP i dont have to back up anything remember that.

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Is the fight on tomorrow?

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i cant make it getting rdy to go to bloody army training and running around with work and papers.So irl has caught up.

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Truth be told, I'm humming and hawing about cancelling, I'm mortally afraid that every other MMO I try just won't be as good as this, yet I'm becoming extremely bored with heroes, and probably once I get a lvl 50 Villain will be rather bored with that too.

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Tbh i share the exact same thing.Took a break and set off for WoW these days with some friends "old school" as well (Aria,Kianna Cyr,Firewall). Been enjoying but i still wait for i7 to reneew my interest and thats why i take this small break now so i can come back fresh.Hopefully i8 will be really interesting for us and all long term player base or Cryptic will have problems keeping subs.

As for the reunion name the time and place and outfit (i dont wear leotard momma ) and lets gather .Beers and ouzo i can arrange the food i leave to u

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just out of sheer curiosity seeing as coh has hit its 2nd b/day how many of us day 1 players are left in the game i remember running around with capt solaris in boomtown at a mighty lvl 12 and TG as well but how many are actually left

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Momma your avatar still cracks me up as much as your cossies and character names . And yeah still around

i am off CoH mainly cause of work and playing WoW till i7 is out.....