Tainted_Greek_EU

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Oddly enough, the Devastation HoldProcs seem to work pretty well for me. More holds = better. I don't bother with the DamProcs, though, since there are far more reliable and cheaper ways of boosting your DAM.

And yes, it's a PVE build.

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Righto, I would go for the Force Mastery pool. 3recharge in FoN and maybe 3dmg resistance if you want,PFF in there as well and the shield. Also 1 more slot in Aim wouldnt be bad imho.

Dream we talking PvE i guess here?

EDIT: I would avoid slotting any of the procs unless there is no other choice, in really short words they are rubbish and make your numbers drop significantly. Unless its a bonus you are really after and there is no recipe available

That's a really nice build boty

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If they implement Server Transfers soon I want it WoW style. High Pop to Low Pop, so Union to Defiant

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That would be awsome! IF the server had 18k people population

account bans ftl

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Union is going to win any 'Unofficial Poll,' that is the result of this thread, merely because its PvPers, more regularly frequent the forums and post on topics like this.

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No this is totally wrong.Union will win because there is already established PvP action in EVERY single zone,the server has PvP events and this is on a daily basis.Unlike Defiant where PvP occurs from SC and downwards and if it exists its so scattered in occurance that is frustrating.

And thats a raw fact.1 week everyday logging in and SC would have either the funky (null) target for me or someone lowbie trying to do PvE in SC.

No thanks that's not the PvP i like in CoX.

Personally i dont give a rats [censored] where the unofficial server will be as far as i am concerned it can be Vigilance or Zukunft i will happily move my PvP toons.

The point is the following:

Either decide to keep things as is with 3 servers having minimum to no PvP and people simply PvPing once in a month and one server with some average action where things are better or have one server at least with lots of action where you can have fun.

People in PvP tend to let out their frustration, and you should never let it get to you. And it's not like Defiant doesnt have its own share of retards in PvP zones altho they are less because simply there are less people PvPing.

Every server has its own share of morons that increase proportionally to the server population and as Union has larger population and pvp action is bound to have more morons in the zones.

Will this stop you from playing?Fine let it stop you but imho putting your own fun and to what can be done with the whole pvp community gathered in one place just because of 10 idiots is a waste.

From personal experience (and i live in PvP zones in Union) people are helpful in zones if you ask things they will answer you and help you. Yeah things stress at times when there is lots of killing going on and you know what happens when people lose they can be bad losers. But hey if people are looking for pvp where we all cuddle together and sing kumbaya my Lord MMO PvPing is not the right place to be.

It's fast it's hard it's stressing and can show bad side of people.It happens.

The arguement "i dont wanna move cause x - y - z dude was a [censored] to me" doesnt really appeal to me when there is the option and potential of having a 50-100-200 people pvp community gathered in one server for events and daily fun.

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So... if it was zukunft what would you have said?

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Du brenzt dein Hund!!!! or something like this,was one of the first expressions i was taught

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Tanks: Take Taunt
Scrappers: Take Taunt

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Can you also please ellaborate why and some reasoning behind this? A simple do this and do that hardly stands as a tip so some people would need some explanation behind the concept or idea of the tip

Ok so i will get the ball rolling with some little things i found out while pvping

Blasters: Mobility,mobility,mobility. Your best friend and the first thing you will learn to do when pvping especially in zones.Being static with a blaster is like inviting people to attack you. So jumping around or using a lot of movement prevents those pesky stalkers landing their cream and butter AS or at least makes it harder. This little thing applies for Empaths and generally squishies in zones as well. For some reason tho only blasters have acquired the title of "Bunny Hoppers". Some of the more advanced players perform the art of "Bunny Hopping" in a pretty awsome way

Empathy (Defenders/Controllers): I found out that is pretty handy in zones not to stand in middle of a team trying to heal. It's better to keep a distance from your teammates having better awareness of what is going on at the spot where your team is but always try stay within range in order to be able to fire those heals fast. Most preffered healing in PvP is Heal Other and Absorb Pain while Healing Aura is nice and handy when you become the target. In high level PvP (epic level) Power Boosted Heal Aura can really save your life in some situations and keep you up and running.

Another Empathy quick tip is to try if possible and bind a lot of your keys to buttons especially your heals. Clicking in PvP can slow you down a lot. I tend to keep Heal Other and Absorb Pain binded to Q and E respectively but however suits your playstyle.

Bind examples:

/bind q "powexec_name Heal Other"
/bind e "powexec_name Absorb Pain"

These are just some of the basic binds

Inspirations tip:

A quick handy bind for inspirations

/bind 1 "tell $name, Green$$inspexec_name respite$$inspexec_name Dramatic Improvement$$inspexec_name resurgence"

I use this bind and for all inspirations respectively in PvP and is a life saver. What this bind do?

Basically this bind searches for inspirations in your tray and executes the Green inspirations in order of effect. Since this bind executes from right to left arranging your inspirations properly allows you to use the large respites first when they run out it uses the smaller one and so on.

This bind also sends a tell to yourself for a key press check so you know you are using the proper button.

You can simply replace the names for the other inspirations and do the same for all inspirations


Thats all for now will post some more later

Ok so i am working to put together a new players PvP Tips List for CoX as well as some tips that apply as players move up in PvP skill.

So how this works:

Feel free to post your tips below but try please to specify for which AT the tip applies to unless it is a general use tip.

Dont hesitate even the smallest thing can prove useful to a new player or an advanced player. Feel free to post binds you find useful,small build tips,zone or arena tips or just general guidance that will help people around.

Remember if you are posting regarding a specific AT please specify which you are speaking about. Lets try and make a list that might be useful to some new players and maybe some old ones that are taking first steps in PvP

Thanks

Just to lay some thoughts here:

- I am prepared to move to any server all of my toons for pvp and do my best to have as much active pvp zonal or in arena as possible

- I dont care which server will be but:

- Union is most active PvP server atm and thats a fact.There is PvP in every zone going on and comparing to Defiant is a fact there is nowhere near same activity.

- Arena is sorted in test server true but going on a live server with lots of PvPers would enhance Arena action imho

- The ideal would be what Phil said to link EU/US zones and arena true.

I just want some action to be taken to have some more fun during PvP.

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I think having the debate before any official vote is necessary, so people have a better idea of how things would work before blinding voting one way or the other. YMMV, I suppose. But I personally am glad no vote has happened yet.

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I agree on this with you after giving it some thought

Congrats to Globey for getting the Popular Badge for earning 1billion influence on Blazo and being the first person in EU Servers i seen with it ! God damn thats a lot of influence man!

/em panhandle

I have to agree with 100% Stalk says. Also i agree with Phil that the BS/Regen will be easier to get into and learn the PvP tricks and get the hang of zones.Ice/cold will be easy to move on from there.

Imho you could swing either way but i would advise you on starting with the BS/Regen

EDIT: Let us know which server you are on and in case you need any chat or help drop me a tell @Tainted Greek.

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As I've been pointed out again and again, perhaps because European and American cultures are different*? The US NC is all for it I'm sure because they'll get a ton of money. I'm very glad it hasn't been thrown on us here and that we instead get to debate whether it should happen at all.

I personally think there are too many reasons why it should be left as is--no official PvP server. (see my post above)

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First of all.Noone will be forced to move since this will be an unofficial server.Second of all this is not something to debate uppon really but to have the PvP community vote on it and this is what is happening on US boards atm. People are voting regarding the idea of having an Unofficial PvP server and thats the best way to decide on this. I can give you 1 million reasons why there should be one and you can give me 1 million reasons why there shouldnt be one. But at the end of the day if 500 PvPers dont want an unofficial PvP server and 10 want then there cant be one because the majority has spoken and vice versa.

And here is Ex Libris response regarding some concerns raised in that poll about transferring many toons and so on

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/agree with your statements.

I think the gist of this poll though would allow people to make a pro active attempt to building up characters in already healthy PvP environments and not having to rely on the transfer service except in the case of that one or two main toons.


The further you push out the decisions while still leveling up toons on less vital pvp servers the less options you may have in the future other than server transfers.


If people want to start toons on Freedom they can do that. Transferring over, not likely to happen in the beginning.


If people want to start toons on Infinity, Champion, or Liberty they can do that, with the likely chance they can move other toons over later as well.


It comes down to giving you all options to increase your ability to PvP on a live server with an already healthy PvP community.


I think this poll is more about what you will choose to do today instead of what you will choose to do when transfers are available.


At least that is how I would be approaching that situation, unless I consider myself part of the Hardcore Test population in which case it doesn't matter, I just have to deal with the 3x's a year when my server of choice will be closed for a few weeks.

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Ok let me clear it up a bit. Arena PvP will benefit from this as well but Arena has Test Server anyway.

What are the pros and cons of such an implementation now:

Pros:

- Action in PvP zones in an unofficial PvP server will be much higher.

- PvP community will be gathered in one server allowing events with much more interest and on a regular basis, PvP arena tourneys could even end up being held at the rates of costume contests.

- It will be interesting to see how 4 different servers with maybe different "PvP cultures" and habbits will mix.

- It will sparkle more interest in PvP imho.

The cons:

-Yes the rest 3 servers pvp activity will go down to 0 but at the moment the zonal activity is scattered. Last week i went every day on Defiant Sirens Call and Warburg during GMT afternoon times. 1-2 people in SC and 0 on WB as usual and had to head back to Union.

- People will have to pay to transfer their already established toons or will be forced to roll new toons.

Well not much there can be done about this.It's up to NCSoft how much they are willing to help on this,like offering options for one price move of many toons for people that want to move a lot of toons or something like that.

But apart from that it's a game and it's either about making one server with loads of PvP action where we can enjoy PvP or having 4 average to minimum PvP action where we moan about activity.

- As Archy said, what happens to new players. Well this is kind of a blind spot to be honest. Either NCSoft needs to help with this by giving out some info about which server has an unofficial role as something or through the boards and word of mouth this could be communicated.With a sticky let's say in new players section.Other than that nothing much can be done.

I am sorry to say but i am wondering why the US servers are already having a poll about Unofficial PvP servers and we are getting nothing.Our opinion is ditched or what?

This is the official disclaimer that Ex Libris posted in the poll

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*Disclaimer* This poll is for the active PvP Community to determine where the most active PvP community already exists so they can mobilize their efforts during server transfers to help establish and build a stronger PvP community.

If you do not PvP or are not interested in learning how to PvP please do not participate in this poll.

Thank you,

Ex Libris

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Ex Libris post dates 07/23/07

We should have one by now as well and yet nothing.

The friggin US servers are getting mobilised to enhance the PvP action and we sitting here debating?

I wonder why nothing like this has been posted here.

Why we dont have a PvP Guides/binds section and a PvP challenge section.

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whoa!

(and I'm not too keen on the whole 1 server for PvP idea. What happens to new players who choose the "wrong" server for instance?)

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a) Level up all over again in the PvP server

b) transfer to PvP server

Currently a) stands anyway as most people who want to PvP in zones with a few more people and above Sirens Call either roll new toons in Union or in US servers.

Welcome to CoX PvP hope to see you around

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Test server is exploitable tho.

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Not much of an issue for you though with all those 50s & 1 billion inf

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*resists temptation*

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/Fail

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Zaldor stop posting and come online to fill up god damn you we need fillers

ok just to clear it up.Please dont state your preference rather than just your thoughts on this. I prefer the poll to be set up and then have an announcement across all servers so that PvPers start preparing where to gather etc.I just not want this to turn into dispute which server should be rather than what action to take towards enhancing PvP in EU.

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who's Ex-Libris?

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US community coordiantor.

The poll i refer to can be found here

With the character transfer nearing i would like to see PvP community getting organised to finally move things up a bit.

I will direct Kerensky to this thread as well to have his input.

I would like to see a poll about the unofficial PvP server that will be cross-communicated across all 4 servers so we finally manage to get a move on and start jump starting the zones into action.

A similar poll was made in US as well posted by Ex-Libris herself so with character transfer so close now i think is pretty important to take similar action and start sorting ourselves out.If Kerensky agrees to it we could ask some help in communicating towards French and German players so we start gathering asap in one server for some fun and frolics rather than being scattered.

This is not a post about which server should but rather about having all PvPers gathered in one server where we could make CoX PvP liven up and flourish in EU as well and not force people going in US to have some fun.

I know there are language barriers and so on but hey fun is a universal thing no matter what just like love and we all now PvP is all about cuddling

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Healing, per se, does not generate threat. However, the debuff/attack portion of certain heals DO generate threat. So, things like Transfusion can and do, while Healing Aura never does.

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I post this since i had a recent discussion with someone that insisted Healing Aura of Empathy set generated aggro.

Altho i am very hard set that IT SHOULD to make Empathy set a bit more challenging this is the current situation.

EDIT: woops forgot the source