SwellGuy
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I got a second Hero mission tip drop but didn't activate it and still got the 1 Hero merit so I am leaning towards #2.
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I enjoyed my spines/fiery aura scrapper once I had his auras firing. I could round up a lot of enemies and turn them into mulch. He was also the fastest I ever soloed a character to 50.
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Quote:Actually there are many ways to get rich on the market where that isn't true. Also overpaying is subjective. I don't think I am overpaying if it gets me back into the game faster even if I did pay 1 million for a common piece of salvage.Originally Posted by Dispari
Or to put it in layman's terms:
For every person getting rich off the market, there's a sucker on the other end overpaying for stuff. You need both. -
It's time for you to start buying for next year.
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AP is keeping the casual purple warshade from getting Zimbabwe lewt.
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Quote:What else am I supposed to do with all my influence?!Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
Get people to stop making stupidly high bids. The prices are driven by the players suffering from GottaHaveItNAOitis. There are too many players out there who have to have instant gratification and will pay thru the nose to get it.
I got places to go, NPCs to kill. -
Once again the robots do all the work for lazy humans.
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I was able to get the email window to behave last night even after logging out and rebooting my laptop. I resized it to get the claim button away from the spam button and went into options and clicked apply.
I didn't check logging into a different character to see if the window remained the size I had made it though. -
200 hours give or take 20 hours depending on the AT and how much I do that doesn't help them level like getting crafting badges. My quickest was 157 hours and my longest was 599 (first blaster under the original debt weight from 2004).
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Quote:I think it looks pretty cool. As for the rest of it, I'd chalk it up to you're just having a random streak of weirdos coming across you.Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
What is it about this character that attracts weird people to me? I don't actually do or say anything to attract them. I'm just standing around and... Well, shopping, or setting up key binds or speaking with a contact. Does this character really look so weird?
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Quote:I would think normally this should not happen any more. The only way I can see this happening was pre-merger and pre-AE playing a villain and not getting any good drops because villainside paid about 5% of what hero side did for common arcane salvage.Originally Posted by seebs
When I started out, though, I had a very hard time coming up with money; I couldn't even buy SOs at 22, because I didn't have nearly enough money. Despite selling stuff on the market -- by trying to guess what to list it at, without really knowing anything about how it worked.
But even there I found memorizing level 20 or level 35 endurance recipes would allow me outrageous profits selling common End Mods.
At level 22 a non-kheldian had 37 slots to fill now 41 with inherent fitness.
Not having bought SOs in an eternity my recollection is they were 30k-50k each so using the max 50k on 40 slots a player only needs 2 million to SO at 22.
So right now any character can earn 540 AE tickets pretty easily without any shenanigans and get a Deific Weapon or other highly valuable rare and get 2-4 million. Or they can at level 20 run their hero/villain tips and get 2 h/v merits and grab a high value recipe and get even more.
But if someone gets to 22 now and cannot afford their SOs it isn't because there aren't a few easy ways to get there without having to do any more than buy the right recipe or salvage with tickets and merits. I don't find that an unreasonable hurdle at all. -
Quote:HAX!Originally Posted by Sharker_Quint
Well, I don't know what to tell you guys. Mine does not resize when I switch toons or quit/restart game.
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Quote:To which I add if they aren't interacting with the market at all then they really have no leg to stand on complaining about the market prices.Originally Posted by Nethergoat
If you mean 'don't interact with the market at all', then there would be a fairly serious discrepancy.
Especially since we get more for drops than just inf. I know the RNG hates me so I know I will have to take my time to get the premier IOs but this isn't rocket surgery to figure out.Quote:But you can make a vault full of inf not using the market at all other than as a place to dump your junk. Assuming a very minimal level of 'reward seeking' behavior (some TFs, filling up your tip bar every so often, maybe a ship raid or two) you will end up with a very respectable pile of inf just 'playing the game'.
I've sort of stalled out on my 'regular gameplay' stalker, what with all the distractions of the past few issues, but at last check he was level 34 or so with 60 million in the bank, and that's *before* earning power really starts to ramp up.
When anyone (literally anyone) can make a fast, reliable 100m+ with amerits the bleating of the "too expensive" crowd sounds ever flatter and less convincing.
You will still be benefiting from those 'outrageous' prices every time you sell a drop. The amount of inf you make dumping stuff on the market always has and always will dwarf the amount you make from defeats.
'Outrageous' prices aren't as long as your earning power rises along with costs.
And if the argument is "people should be able to kit out with l337 gear just by using the inf from defeated enemies", I don't think that's a reasonable or desirable direction to go.
I will spell it out for those who don't get it by re-quoting the Goat:
You play to your hero alignment merit. You buy a LotG recipe. You sell it. You profit. This takes 22 missions.Quote:When anyone (literally anyone) can make a fast, reliable 100m+ with amerits the bleating of the "too expensive" crowd sounds ever flatter and less convincing. -
Quote:Merits (Reward and Alignment) are the path to get without marketing. Yes, you will have to play a long time but while playing to earn your merits you will be getting other drops which you could and should sell if you don't want them for yourself.Originally Posted by Bright Shadow
Everything you said, I pretty much agree with. But here what I'm trying to pin point...
Right -now- a solid IO build is well within the reach of anyone who plays normally. Right -now- I can get a cheap Frankenslotted IO build in the mid-30s with only the money I earned up to that part. My concern is that in future, this won't be that easy anymore. Then you will HAVE to to start using market efficiently and get some know-how in how to use your resources and make very smart choices. I'm not complaining about "now" at all! And again, you could argue that maybe nudging the players into using the market more efficiently and make smart decisions on their money is a good thing. It could very well be true! But I'm just unsure of that.
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Quote:What exactly do you mean by "don't really marketeer at all"?Originally Posted by seebs
I think Bright Shadow has made an interesting point:
Imagine that we define "genuinely expensive" in terms of "the amount of money you end up with if you don't really marketeer at all".
At some point, inflation will reach a point where a "solid IO build" has become "genuinely expensive". If the price of that solid IO build doubles, but the amount of money you get from punching dudes doesn't...
That said, there is a secondary interesting consideration: Because the market inf sink scales with prices, there exists a theoretical point (possibly outside the inf cap) where prices are high enough that the market fees are now matching inf creation.
Here's why I ask. To some that means use the market. I have a problem with that definition because if someone isn't using the market then complaining about the market prices is like complaining about the local favorite dish on the other side of the world which you never eat.
To others it means flipping by which they mean making a profit in the market.
The other thing I would bring up is there is nothing that would ever cause the garbage to be expensive. People aren't going to slot garbage IOs over SOs or common IOs.
Speaking of Common IOs, as long as people can get common drops or use tickets to get common salvage common IOs have a relatively fixed price. So those are inflation proof as long as people don't shoehorn themselves into only using common salvage bought from the market.
And I believe reward merits and hero/villain merits also work against the upper prices of what they can buy. If I see Steadfast Protection's KB protection going for 100M you can bet I will buy it with reward merits not inf on the market.
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Quote:and mailable and tradeable.Originally Posted by Nethergoat
that's LAME!
if they're deletable they should be marketable.
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Quote:I blame Brett Favre imitators.Originally Posted by Nethergoat
some people do have ridiculously massive avatars.
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Quote:Nope. That was in the closed I18 beta but it has not been part of I19.Originally Posted by Stormfront_NA
Mmm....
Someone correct me if I am wrong...
But I believe the alpha slot can be unlocked by trading 75 merits at the merit vendor. Thus you can by-pass the entire sequence if so inclined. -
I am very disappointed. I thought I was actually going to be able to buy City of Heroes' toys.
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Quote:This times a bajillion. Getting there isn't an insurmountable task. I'm not even sure I'd consider it work.Originally Posted by UberGuy
If I really thought it took that much effort to do pretty well at using the market, I'd be far more likely to think there was a problem. But I don't do most of that stuff, and, well, I'm doing pretty darn good.
What I think you need to do that sort of stuff for is to make as much money as humanly possible in as little time as possible, like if you want to outfit a character with purples and/or PvPOs from zero reserves or forward planning. I think I'm OK with that. I don't think we should worry about supporting new players who want to do that, any more than we should try to support new players who want to race to 50. -
Well I am done with Trapdoor for a long time. I decided I would take my remaining 50s through the arc and each fight was predictable based upon my character how it would go except he did seem to challenge my Fortunata more than I expected and my grav/rad rolled him a lot faster than I thought he would.
So for me he remains too easy for some builds and tedious* for the others.
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I sometimes experience the slow loads also. But I had wondered if it was someone's avatar because I have the same issues on websites that have more advertisements than content.
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Quote:Check out Steadfast Protection. Both the KB Protection and +Def ones are not available just End/Res is.Originally Posted by Exxcaliber
Which uncommon sets can you not find? I've found all of them. Be sure to adjust your level slider if looking for a srt that caps under the level you are currently at.
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Quote:And I want them for the screaming posts that want them which will be followed by screaming posts from those same people if we get the caps and they can never buy the things on the market again.Originally Posted by Chaos Creator
Nope, RagManX is dead serious. As a hardcore marketeer he knows exactly what would happen with price caps. That's exactly why he wants them
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Quote:I wouldn't say I am lazy just because I am willing to spend my inf like that.Originally Posted by Arbegla
the problem is #2. you can't fight lazy, just like you can't fix stupid. Lazy people want things RIGHT NOW and in order to do that, they are willing to pay insane prices (like 1 million for an alchemical silver) Now, the 'you can't fix stupid' part kicks in, and you have 3 - 4 other people not realizing alchemical silvers can easily be purchased for less then 1 million, and they start bidding the same thing. Granted, this cycle usually only lasts a few transactions and then its back to normal, market sustainable prices.
But I am very impatient.