SweetChilli

Nah - I just don't buy this. I have never come across any 'dual purpose' enhancements. And TBH I don't even think posi knows what he is talking about. If you read the whole of the thread the whole thing about the recharges even starts to look a bit dodgey. Reminds me of the time that ED came in and the dev's used the line 'oh that was how it was supposed to work from the start'. There was massive uproar about that and the pet changes that happened around that time - that made it obvious to most people that the dev's were lying to us.

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Until now I have more people saying no than yes. Although I appreciate feedback from both parties, I am missing answers from the "usual suspects"...

It is understandable why most people don't want to participate, last few times wasn't the best way to spend your time and to be honest there are no promises that this one will not categorized under those again, but I was hoping that there will be some people that haven't lost their faith.

It isn't about the reward anymore and you all know it. We are trying to prove that everything can be done with good teamwork!

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Wonder who I am quoting here....

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The only problem is getting enough people knowing this plan and knowing what they are doing.

[/ QUOTE ]Not really a problem if the 3 team leaders know how to instruct their team members.

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The last thing we need is a people shouting in broadcast asking what they have to do and asking me to explain it again because they cannot be bothered to alt/tab to the forums.

[/ QUOTE ]If team leaders tell their members to speak directly to them if they have any questions, I don't see the point of ever using broadcast.

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Everyone has access to the forums and its all written here so there is no excuse really.

[/ QUOTE ]If you expect to find the people needed for this job through the forum only you're mistaken.
Only a small percent of gamer base even know what a forum is.

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Nope - the quote from postitron is unclear on what happenes to endurance reduction SO's. Please read further into the thread - about page 5. Posi is just talking about the recharge enhancements.

I have now just looked at how much endurance it costs to summon my 3 battle bots and how much it costs when I have slotted 3 endurance reductions in it.

With the 3 endurance reductions in it, it hardly went down at all compared to when I had none slotted.

Please try this for yourself as its the only way to prove it. Endurance enhancements decrease the initial costs for summoning the bots.

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Its been common knowledge for ages that it's how much endurance your henchmen uses. Pretty sure that slotting Ranges in them only affects the distance at where you can summon them , which is what I'm guessing youre trying to say so I agree that this clashes with what I'm saying.

Just try and play with end reductions in your pets and you'll see what I'm talking about.

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Just tried it - absolutely no difference. I had a kin friend of mine drain a bot of all it endurance and I checked to see how many times he would fire in the 2 minutes afterwards. It fired the same number of time with 3 x SO endurance reductions as it did with no endurance reductions.

This is one of the misconceptions that was laid to rest ages ago on the U.S. formus.

Dam - I am unable to make this one, but good luck!

Be nice to give him a pasting every Friday if this works well.

No - it really is nothing to do with the ammount of endurance that they use. Thats like saying that slotting range enhancements in a pet will increase their range. That simply isn't true. Its been common knowledge for ages so I don't know where you are getting this idea from but its totally, totally wrong.

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what i can do to defend against this

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Move about (or at least don't cluster your bots together, /poison don't have any PBAoE buffs anyway), carry blues, floor his recharge rate (very difficult with Ice/), mez him (might be doable as a high level /poison with envenom/weaken/noxious gas), slot endreds in your summon powers. Defense won't help as EA is autohit.

Energy Absorption does not affect your bots' recovery, it just drains their blue bar... slotting endred will allow them to recover end faster than they use it and start firing again right after a drain.

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Noxious Gas is the level 38 poer in the poison set. This isn't available in Sirens call.

Also, Endurance reducion slotted in a pet power DOES NOT mean that they use less endurance when they fire off their powers. It simply means that the endurance cost of creating the bots is less.

The other thing to remember is that people shouldn't go near the debuffer when they are behind a rock. If that person draws agro then the chain attack will hit the debuffer as well and the debuffer will be mezzed.

You'll see what I mean....its bound to happen at some point.

The debuff itself would not need range. The method we used for putting the debuff on was as follows...

Debuffer needs:

Mezz protection
KB Protectiopn
EoE
End drain protection

A tank/empath/stormy (for the end protection for tank/empath) taunting hami or anything else that may hit the debuffer.

Runs in, puts both toggle/toggles on yellow mito, then either runs back or clicks accept on teleport prompt that is already waiting for him and take him to his point on the closest rock.

Note. Some rocks are just in range, but not all of the rock is in range and only part of it in some cases. There are exact places to stand without the debuff going out of the 200 yards range in some cases.

Fancy a crack at it this way?

http://uk.boards.cityofheroes.com/showfl...ge=1#Post967968

Just need 6 people with debuff toggles to do it. Don't have to do the TK thing but it would be interesting if we could find a good way to distract hami too.

Hmm....think we could take him down together? be interesting to see how many of us he could take on...

Yeah - pity if out of practise and I don't understand these IO and set bonuses either. Spoiled the game I think they did. I mean getting 100% resistance to holds means that they only last half the length of time. Not like I can get 50% resistance to damage to take half the damage.

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I've seen Bridgers powers. I reckon in my hay day, I could of even given him a run for his monies!

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You think? Ive seen the powers of a dev Lord Recluse toon...

I bet nothing beats /kill $target

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Aye - when I saw Bridger, he had every powerset there was. The 10 minutes would be over by the time he had put all his clickies on and the end drain would be huge.

I've seen Bridgers powers. I reckon in my hay day, I could of even given him a run for his monies!

Just make them all PvP zones....then the RP'ers can RP getting their bums kicked.

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Three things:

1) General Community not big enough to warrant this.

2) PvP Community even smaller.

3) There'd then have to be an official roleplay server to make it fair, and I'd spend all my time on it making cat girl jokes. So I'd never get to PvP.

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Why number 3?
You don't need a specific server just for RP - just stand around wasting your time on the normal server. Just because one group gets something they want doesn't mean that all groups should - or that no groups should get anything at all because the RP'ers will feel left out.

What the OP suggested was a change a new server with changes to the zones and the zone rules. What different conditions would RP'ers want thatn don't exist on the servers as they are at the moemnt? They are free to stand around and talk rubbish in almost any zone.

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As a teacher, the next person to quote 10000% anything, will get a slap.

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Why? Its perfectly correct mathematically speaking.

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My character thematically loves Aid self cause its a Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaa
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Quotin' for effect.

The only issue I have with Aid Self is that it's pretty much uninteruptable now with the right slotting.

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I would very much like to know the slotting that neutralizes snow storm

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3 Interrupt SO's.

Spag bol won our fights.

14-0
7-0 (I quit in disgust ))
5-0

Or something like that. No one official was there so we just hose at random using a dice roll corresponding to each chars position in the list.

The trouble is having the time to lay the mines without getting interrupted.

Some trollers can do it easily. Just remeber to pick the psi epic.

I think heroes and villains are pretty even. Well, until level 41 that is. Then the heroes easily are tougher than the villains by a mile.

The PPP were badly thought out I think. Nothing original in all the sets - all about the same, all as bad as each other.

Ok, that does it. I'm going to force far-seer to tell you the right way to do it. Stay tuned...

Appology accepted.

It a level 38 power though so doesn't require a lvl 50 */poison to check.

I have used it in the arena. Its pretty hard for a melee character not to stand in it, if they want to hit the MM that is stood next to his big henchy.

It does hit and it can be effective, but as its only 4 seconds its not an 'I win' power. Your method of calculating is wrong though, or the % tohit chance is. If you wish for me to show you this power, then contact me in the game somehow. Better to do this before venturing an opinion on its usefulness. 'Better to be thought a fool...'

Imagine how much I wanted my MM to become a hero though and stand next to hami

Hammerfall and Extremus - you can check out the power now - the website is displaying the powers correctly.