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  1. Sun_Runner
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Sardan View Post
    Hmm, not only is my point balance zero (given what we've seen in this thread it must be zero for everyone), but I note that while I've been an active subscriber since 2005, the account management page is showing my total paid time as 4 years 9 months. Even though I've never let my subscription lapse.

    This doesn't bode well for the servers coming up soon.
    Oh. Didn't notice that (bolded) bit either. Mine is showing at 4 years, 3 months. I'm nearly five years. Wonder where the missing months went?
  2. Sun_Runner
    We can now view our current Paragon Point total on the Game Account Details page (on the NCsoft website). Cool. I like it.

    I've a question though: Where did the points we've been accumulating go?

    Because they aren't there.
  3. Sun_Runner
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by BeornAgain View Post
    Pretty much what everyone else said. ZERO points and I have been active during the full window!
    This.

    Any idea as to where the points vanished to?
  4. Sun_Runner
    Copied my beta install over the live install, did a consistency check. No dice.
    Copied my test install over the live install, did a consistency check. Worked perfectly.

    Both my beta install and my test install are the same version. I wonder what the difference is. Now to wait for the servers to go online and accessible.
  5. Sun_Runner
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    We have detected missing or corrupt game files, please run the "Repair" option in NCsoft Launcher to fix this. The game will now exit.
    *sighs*
  6. Sun_Runner
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Freitag View Post
    For a list of Known issues, please go here!
    Unable to follow this link, here or on the patch notes announcement. Yes, I am signed in.
  7. Sun_Runner
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by BrandX View Post
    They then wait for them to rotate back in.
    With everything they've been certain about one day, then pulled an about-face the next day ... I have no confidence that this will be true. Its' true now, but will it be true then?
  8. Sun_Runner
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    Originally Posted by Captain-Electric View Post
    Any amount you (or anyone you know) might be charging for farms is simply pretendy fun-time fees. You're basically "role-playing" that you're providing a service that should cost a fee. I'm not saying that's wrong in ANY way! But not everyone is going to want to pay to RP that, er, "concept" with you.
    Which is fine, and true, and everything. They don't have to pay. No one is making them. They can do the content themselves. No need for a farmer ...

    But they don't want the content. They want the rewards; as rapidly as possible. Faster than they can do it themselves. And if they want that ... they are at the mercy of those who are able and willing to give them what they want.
  9. Sun_Runner
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Liz Bathory View Post
    Did you completely forget this is suppose to be a GAME!? A game where you like it to bust npc heads in... A game to enjoy. Not a money or ind gathering tool.
    A game is about having fun. What you find fun isn't necessarily what I find fun. What I find fun isn't necessarily what you find fun. Different strokes for different folks, ya know?

    This is the way it should be.

    Some people enjoy accumulating one pretty number (experience), some enjoy accumulating a different pretty number (influence), some people enjoy accumulating badges, some people enjoy the costumes, some people enjoy the trials, etc, etc, etc ...

    Some people have to do stuff they don't like in a game so that they can do the things they do like in a game. (I hate the low-level game with a burning passion, for example. Game doesn't start until the low 30s.) If one has fun endlessly tweaking your builds (playing with numbers), then one needs similarly endless supplies of the stuff that let you tweak your builds (inf, recipes, salvage).

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    You are so lost I cannot believe!
    Repeat after me: There is no one true way, only a thousand thousand paths from here to there, now to then.
  10. Sun_Runner
    Oh. My. [beep]ing. Gods.

    ... I do imagine that this isn't going to go over very well at all once people start noticing this. One hopes they overcome the difficulty and make it so. (They probably won't. Shiny Penny Syndrome. Why fix broken stuff when you can make something new instead? *sighs*)

    I'm going to have to think about this.

    Hmm.
  11. Sun_Runner
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    Originally Posted by Giant2005 View Post
    I think you are underestimating the amount of people that would quit if such a thing were to happen. If an overzealous GM started throwing out bans to people who weren't breaking any rules and wasn't fired within a few hours, I expect a significant majority of the playerbase would quit.
    I wouldn't expect a significant majority. I wouldn't even expect a significant minority. I would expect a noticeable amount (from NCsoft / Paragon Studios perspective at least).

    Do note that I'm an "ebil farmer ruining the game for everyone! mwahahahaha!" because I run ticket farms solo, slowly, on my tankers and other characters. I (rarely) take a friend or two with me on those ticket farms; the XP is terrible, I'm sure. Not that my 50s can tell.

    I am hardly without bias.

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    Originally Posted by _eeek_ View Post
    I don't think anyone cares what you do on your own time. It's your $15.


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    But the constant spams,
    *nods*

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    the offensive broadcasts,
    Definitely.

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    obnoxious justifications for bilking folks for free content,
    They don't have to pay. They can always run the content themselves. I know I run the content myself.

    Throw together a solo mission on AE, pick my favorite enemy group for that character, publish it, run it until I'm bored, unpublish it.

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    the broadcasting and help channel arguing over who makes the most off of what build/farm/ticket rolls/etc
    Only if the same thing is done for merits, for incarnate powers, for build advice, etc ... fair is fair.

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    - all of it is just depressing.
    We are in agreement.

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    If want to farm, go farm. Make a farming channel. Do what you enjoy QUIETLY. Leave the rest of us in peace.

    Is this really asking too much?
    "If want to run incarnate trial, go run incarnate trials. Make an incarnate trial channel. Do what you enjoy QUIETLY. Leave the rest of us in piece. Give us back Pocket D / RWZ. Is this really too much too ask?"

    "If you want to run task forces, go run task forces. Make a task force channel. Do what you enjoy QUIETLY. Leave the rest of us in piece. Is this really too much too ask?"

    "If you want to team, go team. Make a teaming channel. Do what you enjoy QUIETLY. Leave the rest of us in piece. Is this really too much too ask?"

    "If you want to PvP, go PvP. Make a PvP channel. Do what you enjoy QUIETLY. Leave the rest of us in piece. Is this really too much too ask?"

    ... would you like me to continue?
  12. Sun_Runner

    Freedom? Hardly

    POST-ACTION

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Diggis View Post
    Except, without GR you can't access it.

    With Freedom, if you bought GR, and are going Premium you can't access it. Despite having bough GR for access to it.

    There really is a double standard there.
    Somewhat. And?
  13. Sun_Runner
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Giant2005 View Post
    But that is my point. Giving up your real time to help a stranger is extremely charitable however you look at it, if you are not a charitable person, you aren't willing to do it w/out problem, why would those people ever give up their time for a stranger without reward?
    Because certain people have decided that a non-exploit style of gameplay (that isn't theirs) is badwrongfun and should be stamped out with excessive force.

    However ... If the Devs wanted to get rid of it, its' simple enough to put a GM (or three) in the problem zones/servers, monitor chat and start handing out tempbans for everyone who asks for a farm and everyone who offers a farm while spamming a global announcement every 10 minutes that farming is no longer tolerated in COH. Encourage everyone to report farms and farmers and those farmed; act on those reports. It should take a week or so.

    They'd lose a lot of customers doing it, but ... they can do it. It is within their power to do so. They haven't done this (to my knowledge; maybe I missed the announcements), so ... why haven't they? Anyone know? *curious*
  14. Sun_Runner
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    Originally Posted by WanderingAries View Post
    Um, I don't know about Your directory, but comparing My CoHBeta directory to my CoHLive directory seems to point to a little more than just simple pigg revisions. Anyone Else notice the quicktime files? It'll take longer, but somehow I think it'd be safer (less headachy) to just bite the DL.
    I don't know what to say. I really don't. Either I'm communicating poorly or ...

    I shall be generous and assume that I'm communicating poorly rather than cast aspersions on your character and intelligence.

    Numbers:

    Live Server:
    - Local Version: 2060.201108180101.1.0
    - Server Version: 2060.201108180101.1.0

    Test Server:
    - Local Version: 2100.201109080039.1.0
    - Server Version: 2100.201109080039.1.0

    Beta Server:
    - Local Version: 2100.201109080039.1.0
    - Server Version: 2100.201109080039.1.0

    The Live install version is going to be the same or slightly higher than the Beta (or Test) install version this Tuesday when they push I21 to the Live servers. Guess which version is going to have to download more to fully update? v2060 or v2100?
  15. Sun_Runner
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    Originally Posted by plainguy View Post
    Just wondering if the new lightform power is crashless ? I'm gonna guess yes, but I don't like guessing if I don't have to.
    Light Form's crash will reset your health to full and then remove half of it, leaving you at 50% HP. If you were at less than 50% HP at the time it crashes, Light Form's crash will actually heal your character up to having 50% HP.
  16. Sun_Runner
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by UberGuy View Post
    Ticket farmers and XP farmers have different motives. A lot of people don't bother with the tickets. They're the ones likely to be charitable.
    I agree.
  17. Sun_Runner
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    Originally Posted by Novamaiden View Post
    lol trust us, reading your attitude i wouldn't ask. You'd be the one chargeing the most i'd laugh at as i spent my time and energy doing my own playing instead of paying someone to do what they'd be doing anyway. I've never asked anyone for any kind of compensation for helping them out in a computer game. i don't doubt the inf/time ratio so much as how much you reckon it costs the farmer to bring a passenger, as in 3 runs etc. Assuming the passenger doesn't contribute and actually make the run faster. Seriously, get off your high horse.
    You know of many "passengers" who can take up to eight +4/x8 spawns with bosses whacking on them at the same time? There is such a thing as an aggro cap. (16.) Most passengers end up eating floor while the farmer does the work for them.

    If they can take it, they're farmers themselves and so don't need another farmer to do the work for them.
  18. Sun_Runner
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Novamaiden View Post
    omg are you seriously trying to make the farmers sound like Mother Theresa? So generous and charitable. LMFAO. Math looks seriously wonky to me btw.
    Not so. I'd call them stupid for voluntarily taking such losses unless other factors are more important to them.

    Average XP Farmer (w/ Group): 8 - 13 minutes per map, assuming 10 minutes for these purposes.
    Ticket Cap per Map: 1500 Tickets, assuming they are doing the useful ones.
    Ticket to INF: 550 tickets for 1.5 million influence, assuming the worst possible method of spending tickets
    INF per Map from Tickets: 4 million

    With me so far? Cool.

    Average Ticket Farmer (Solo or Special Map): 3 - 8 minutes per map (no bosses), assuming 5 minutes for these purposes.
    Ticket Cap per Map: 1500 Tickets
    Ticket to INF: 550 tickets to 1.5 million influence
    INF per Map from Tickets: 4 million

    Following along are we? Good.

    30 minutes of farming: XP Farmer makes 12 million influence. Ticket Farmer makes 24 million influence. An hour of farming: XP Farmer makes 24 million influence. Ticket Farmer makes 48 million influence. Etc. Assuming both are stupid about how they spend their tickets.

    Does this mean that XP Farmers who farm for free are generous? Not necessarily. They are either ignorant or some other factor is more important to them than making influence alone. Usually, some other factor is more important. That may, or may not, be generosity. Depends on the player.
  19. Sun_Runner
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    Originally Posted by ShadowWhisper View Post
    Well; provided that the Exalted events to some degree award global/account tied things when they do have rewards, that would probably be reasonable enough to a lot of people.

    Still as far as separation mechanics go, access to First Ward content is something that isn't entirely accessible without being a VIP or having bought into it. Not sure that's really functionally useful in regards to an event, but it may not be that far off the map either.
    Replace 'event' with 'zombie invasion' or 'rikti invasion', and note that the non-VIP shouldn't even be able to see the event happening let alone participate in or benefit from it. I suppose they could use the phasing tech involved in the new starter zones as a base to build on, but I don't know how scalable that is.
  20. Sun_Runner
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ShadowWhisper View Post
    While I can't exactly say I'm concerned about this either way, there's one this about that general idea I'm not sure I fully understand. Whether I agree or not; I get what you're saying about Free vs. Premium vs. VIP and so fourth.

    However what I don't fully understand about that stance is the why a VIP playing on a "standard" server should be treated differently than a VIP on Exalted. I take no issue with there being Exalted-exclusive events mind, I'm just not sure it's logically consistent that two VIPs who pay the same subscription fees might be treated rather differently just because one elected to move/reroll on Exalted.
    Because, outside of putting in "no free or premium allowed" mechanics that block the free and premium accounts from even seeing the events let alone interacting with them, the only place to give the VIP VIP-only events is the VIP server.

    I don't believe we have the tech to effectively remove entire swathes of players and do the "you're not special enough" blocking. Maybe if they made VIP-only instances of every world zone in the game along with a no-recharge-required VIP-only power used to switch between VIP-only and Accessible-to-all instances?
  21. Sun_Runner
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by warden_de_dios View Post
    My question is should Marketing release new items weekly, bi-monthly, monthly, or quarterly onto the Paragon Market?
    1200 paragon points worth of stuff monthly, at minimum, preferably more. Somewhere between 400~800 paragon points per week would be optimal.

    I am given to understand that they are aiming for weekly.
  22. Sun_Runner
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SpittingTrashcan View Post
    I am aware that my personal preference will not influence Paragon Studios' decision one way or another. I am merely conveying my thoughts.
    Thats' fine. I'm doing the same thing, after all; just not in agreement with you.
  23. Sun_Runner
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Nos482 View Post
    Of this...

    I would hate if they made any last minute changes and I had to download the patch nontheless.
    You will have to download a patch. I'm relatively certain that what is going on live isn't precisely what they have on the beta nor on test. They will have some adjustments. However, copying over the last known good install and patching from that is going to save you a multi-gb download.

    Or you can try copying your beta install over to your test install and patching (if at all) from there, and so avoid the 2.5 gb test update patch. The same process should be a time-saver on the live servers once they patch with the new issue. This is standard operating procedure for COH. I'm surprised you don't know this already.

    Worst case you have to download the entire thing anywise. In which case you lose nothing from trying. Whatever helps you sleep at night.
  24. Sun_Runner
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Nos482 View Post
    Would be nice if we could get a (redname-)confirmation for that...
    A confirmation of what? Zwill confirmed:

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    Originally Posted by Zwillinger View Post
    We'll have a maintenance post with estimated downtime.

    And evening where?

    (fairness is relative)
    ... and last I checked Zwill is a redname.
  25. Sun_Runner
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SpittingTrashcan View Post
    I restate my prior caveat that I am reacting to a hypothetical only, but it was a hypothetical that I had not even realized was possible until this announcement.
    Ah.

    Sounds nice, I'll have to add those things to my calendar so I don't forget to show up. They should do stuff like that every week on the VIP server (only).