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Certainly more fun than moping around like Eeyore, whining about how everythings gonna stink and we should all crush our expectations into a little ball to guarantee we won't be let down.

This is a video game, not a career change.
If you can't get excited about something this frivolous and trifling, what's the point of living?

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My point was that people would leave because they were disappointed about some side-switching feature that was never confirmed or even announced. People are getting worked up over rumors at this point and threatening to leave over not getting your rumored feature is silly.

But I think you're wrong about some of your early points. I won't argue it because it's mostly opinion at this point. I just have a newbie's perspective on things here and I see a lot of old-timers sticking with a just-okay MMO (sorry, but this game really is showing its age!!) for whatever reason. I don't think those people are going to leave because they're getting new stuff but NOT the new stuff they thought they were getting. It's still new stuff and they'll still be excited.

CoX is below the radar for a lot of gamers at this point. The devs want fresh blood. A big expansion with lots of hype will get them that, whether is has "real" side switching or not. I know from my point of view it doesn't really make a difference. And I know from my limited experience that if you COULD switch sides, red side would die and the devs don't really want that.

They've never announced anything about whether you'll "really" be able to switch or not. Everyone is assuming so and talking about it like it's so, but silence on the devs' part is NOT consent. I know you think it'll be a bad "PR" move on their part but the fact is they're not gonna draw in LESS players if it's not the way existing players want it. They're also not gonna LOSE existing players if it's not the way they want it. You guys [censored] and moan all the time but you're still here 5 years later and you're not going anywhere and they know this.

Don't confuse silence for consent. Don't get your hopes up and you won't be disappointed.

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Woah, that's a big thread. Anything ever come of it?

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Yeah, I learned about the forum ignore function, added two people to my ignore list, and got a warning from a moderator for calling a troll a troll, which is apparently trolling. Also I think I may have gotten a few more gray hairs.

I may end up still doing this project after I sufficiently cool off. The response to the proposal from the marketeers was "Great idea but it won't do any good." Surprisingly (at the time), a bunch of people jumped in to mock my ideas and imply that everything I would present as fact is actually opinion. They further implied that I had some sinister reason to want to educate people other than the fact that I don't want to have to repeat myself a million times. *shrug*

The end result was me throwing up my hands and saying, "[censored] this and [censored] you" and leaving my own thread. So yeah, maybe one day because I still think it's a valid idea, but I don't know if I could take the heat that'd come down from the trolls if I did it.

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You can't trade recipes, but you can craft it into an enhancement and store the enhancement in your base bins. The lack of recipe storage has not been a big problem for me.

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Crafting a low level crappy enhancement, only to delete it if it doesn't sell in two weeks seems like an awful waste of time and money. I now update my stance on why there's no low-level IO market activity. It's because you can't trade recipes.

Yeah, good luck with that.

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Guess some people have never heard of the VRPAAABMGDLEEBDFFBG.

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I hear they also invented the chat bug.

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LOL!

Can you trade recipes directly between two players? I know you can't "trade" it via base storage (WHICH SUCKS!) but if you can trade directly, I'd be able to post a lot more lowbie stuff via alts on my second account.

I think that if people started posting more lowbie stuff and the lowbie market started picking up, it'd be a pump-priming kind of deal. I think the lowbie market is just dead because "everyone" thinks "nobody" uses it. I love frankenslotting out my lowbies for dirt cheap! I got a L25 4-way orange recipe for 5,000 inf yesterday! Awesome!

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I'm up to like 590 million burnt. Flipping high-end recipes for a bit over 10% profit was a good chunk, but most of it (400 million) was subsidizing someone's base.

(edited to correct the title)

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Glad that idea is working. You should start a new thread advertising this service...possibly in the base forum, assuming you want to get jumped again.

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Nah, i read it. I just don't enjoy that aspect of CoH. Thanks for the pm though. I do it because it's part of the game but am not interested in having a billion inf to turn around and figure out a way to delete it?? I don't really want to look for "niches" either. I'll buy what I need, i'm not concerned about what others need.

I was curious about why someone would want to delete the money. That's why i replied to the post. I don't get it.

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There was a REALLY big long thread about why someone would want to delete money. It has to do with the surplus money supply and how it's affecting prices. The point of this thread is how can a single person help by, not only deleting their own money, but somehow contriving to delete other people's money at the same time.

There is a way in this game to stop your XP from accruing. There is no way to stop your inf from accruing, other than just deleting it. Many people complain about prices and the best way to control the prices (given certain assumptions in the OP) is to delete inf. It's counter-intuitive so they won't do it. It's up to ebil marketeers to gather the cash and do with it what's best for the community (i.e. deleting it).

Of course, that is only if you believe that the money supply is a problem. The jury is still out on that point.

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will try.

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My niche better have my money! Through rain, sleet or snow...

You guys know the rest.

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Just curious... but how do you get a level pact between more than two people? Tells me maximum number are in when I try to invite a third.

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He's multi-boxing...playing multiple accounts at once. This lets him pact someone for each of his accounts. I'd assume since he mentioned 3 slots that he's using three accounts at once.

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If the market is the only reason you play this game, there are far superior economy simulators you can be playing. EVE is ---->

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1 - Market being the reason I stay is not the same as market being the reason I play this game. Subtle but important distinction. I play because there are multiple fun things to do so I never get bored with just one. The market is one of them, so is killing bad guys. Neither is enough to stand on its own for me.

2 - Superior economy simulator doesn't neccesarily mean more fun. I played Eve for years and it's amazing, but recent patches have killed the fun factor. That's why I came here in the first place, and I've heard similar from others,

The market is fun for a lot of ppl. Don't be a playa hata! :P

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I take it you don't have the merits (240) for this?

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...thinking out loud...

20 Merits per Random roll.
~6m inf average worth of random roll.
12 random rolls per 1 specific recipe.
12 * 6m inf = 72m inf.

I'm guessing this is where he pulled the 75m number from. I would venture to say that NO single IO that can be acquired through merits is worth more than ~72m inf based on this...assuming 6m is the correct number.

Brutes play like a scrapper. Tanks play like...a tank. If you want a scrapper, go Brute.

Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.401
http://www.cohplanner.com/

[u]Click this DataLink to open the build![u]

Level 43 Natural Brute
Primary Power Set: War Mace
Secondary Power Set: Willpower
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Fighting

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Bash -- S'ngH'mkr-Acc/Dmg(A), S'ngH'mkr-Dmg/EndRdx(3), S'ngH'mkr-Dmg/Rchg(3), S'ngH'mkr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5)
Level 1: High Pain Tolerance -- RctvArm-ResDam(A), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(15), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(15), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(19), H'zdH-Heal(19), H'zdH-Heal/EndRdx(21)
Level 2: Pulverize -- S'ngH'mkr-Acc/Dmg(A), S'ngH'mkr-Dmg/EndRdx(5), S'ngH'mkr-Dmg/Rchg(7), S'ngH'mkr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7)
Level 4: Jawbreaker -- S'ngH'mkr-Acc/Dmg(A), S'ngH'mkr-Dmg/EndRdx(9), S'ngH'mkr-Dmg/Rchg(9), S'ngH'mkr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(11), FrcFbk-Rechg%(21)
Level 6: Hover -- Flight-I(A)
Level 8: Clobber -- S'ngH'mkr-Acc/Dmg(A), S'ngH'mkr-Dmg/EndRdx(11), S'ngH'mkr-Dmg/Rchg(13), S'ngH'mkr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(13)
Level 10: Fast Healing -- Heal-I(A), Heal-I(25)
Level 12: Indomitable Will -- EndRdx-I(A), Empty(33)
Level 14: Fly -- Flight-I(A)
Level 16: Rise to the Challenge -- H'zdH-Heal(A), Tr'ge-Heal/EndRdx(17), H'zdH-Heal/EndRdx(17), Tr'ge-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(23)
Level 18: Mind Over Body -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam(31), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(31), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(31)
Level 20: Quick Recovery -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), EndMod-I(23), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(25)
Level 22: Swift -- Flight-I(A)
Level 24: Health -- Heal-I(A)
Level 26: Shatter -- Sciroc-Acc/Rchg(A), M'Strk-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(27), M'Strk-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(27), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(29), FrcFbk-Rechg%(29)
Level 28: Heightened Senses -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 30: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A)
Level 32: Crowd Control -- Empty(A)
Level 35: Whirling Mace -- Empty(A)
Level 38: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 41: Tough -- Empty(A)
Level 44: Weave -- Empty(A)
Level 47: [Empty]
Level 49: [Empty]
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Fury
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Some random notes:

- Next respec I'm going back to SJ. Flight is too slow when you're traveling and too hard to control when you're going short distances.
- I "discovered" that Swift sucks majorly compared to Hurdle. Swapping that out later too.
- Those Force Feedback +recharge IOs are relatively cheap and make a HUGE difference. I almost never need to use Brawl anymore and sometimes I don't even need Bash. Jawbreaker is on auto.
- I do NOT run out of endurance. Doubt I'll slot Stamina at this point.
- I want more good healing sets in Health and Fast Healing, but they're REALLY expensive and what I have in there works plenty well.
- I play on difficulty 4 and the only time I had to run from a fight was when I got jumped by 2 purple bosses.
- I'm really proud of my RttC slotting. I used to run 1 Endred and 3 Heals. This give the same healing amount and MORE endred plus set bonuses. Also it was so cheap as to be negligible.
- Again, this build cost no more than 20m, closer to 15m, and performs amazingly. Nothing in there looks amazing, but there's definite synergy in there somewhere.

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The things are hideously rare and hard to come by except at level 50.

Yeah, I _could_ get it for 15 million if I wanted to put 20 or 30 bids down for a week or two. I've got SCHEMES, though.

... plus my self control is no better than anyone else's when I'm shopping for myself.

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What's the point of making all that money if you can't spend it how you want? And besides, think of all the inf that'll be destroyed if he gets one on the market for 75m!

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Fulmens is the new NAO kid? lol

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I thought you weren't checking the forums at work anymore?

Coincidentally, I have been making bank crafting these (red-side) lately. Oh wait, wrong thread...

I'm only two months in but the market was responsible for month 2, yes 100%. The fighting part of the game is almost unbearbly grindy, but playing the market is a nice distraction and has the side benefit of getting me all kinds of shinies to play with, making the fighting part of the game more fun. Go market!

To bring this back towards a market perspective, is it worth trying for lower level pvp recipes? I know you can get them as low as 10...the uniques would be great that low, but the regular set ones would be a waste. From a time spent::inf made perspective, is it worth trying for low ones, say 25-35?

Phos, do you mind if I post my WM/WP brute build in this guide? There are no current guides for it and I actually used your guide to help build mine. There are a lot of parallels in the powers so it works out pretty well I think.

I just "respeced" at 30 using my second build and filled him up with "cheap" IO sets (15-20m total inf spent). I made a poor choice for power at 30 and felt like I needed the blow the respec. My new build is AWESOME compared to my old one and I thought it'd be fun to post up here so people could see how to get a great build on the cheap.

It doesn't fit the guide, being War Mace, so let me know.

Good read, and nice breakdown. Thanks!

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Thanks for the cap info. I decided to putz around in Mids myself and discovered that the jump speed boost from Hurdle is SIGNIFICANTLY faster than the run or fly speed boost from Swift. So much so that it makes me never want to take swift again and it kinda makes me want to respec every character I have OUT of swift.

FYI, here are the unbuffed numbers:

Base Run: 14.3 mph
Base Jump: 14.3 mph

Run+Swift: 19.3 mph
Run+Swift+Sprint: 26.5 mph
Run+Swift w/1 SO+Sprint w/1 SO: 30.5 mph

Jump+Hurdle: 32.1 mph
Jump+Hurdle w/1 SO: 38.1 mph

WTF? Why would I ever take swift when I could bunny hop with Jump+Hurdle at nearly double the speed of Run+Swift?? I'm really surprised that, out of all the guides I've read and builds I've perused in my 2 months in this game, I've NEVER seen this mentioned. Is Mids correct here?

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x0 slot Super Speed aprox 64.4Mph/103.7Kph
x3 slot SO/IO SS w/Sprint on and x1 Swift aprox 148.9Mph(capped) 206.4(uncapped)

x0 slot Super Jump aprox 50.0Mph/80.4Kph
x3 slot SO/IO SJ aprox 78.0Mph(capped) 83.8(uncapped)

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Thanks for that great breakdown! I didn't realize SS was THAT much faster than other ones! Any idea how TP compares?

What is capped vs uncapped? That's quite a large difference on the SS speeds. Is that just the effects of ED or is there some sort of speed cap?

Thanks to this thread, I've officially added a second person to my ignore list. Thanks, Smurphy! You're not my hero, I don't know what anyone else sees in you, you're just another guy...but you did help me identify a worthless troll (whom I will not name because that would be against TOS! ZOMG!!) so for that I thank you and love you. &lt;3