Stalk_obot_EU

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Well, if thats true, we all get access to mez protection in the form of acrobatics. Although not great (mag 1) where do we draw the line. Also controllers and defenders can get access to protection and not every kheld has dwarf form.


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just controllers i think, the psi epic for defenders doesnt have a mez protect

DO NOT DROP RESILIANCE, an auto mez protect is always a good thing as even if you are held your hold time is much reduced. Only put one slot in resiliance as the damage res it gives is nominal to say the least.

I would lose mog, its not a great tier 9 power imo, I would lose mog, get ss in, and use the free slots to put 2 more end reds in fa

revive is pretty useless, it takes no time to get anywhere anyway with travel powers and its not hard to carry a wakie.

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for pve I would go elec/elec personally, its got great damage and control and I was tanking on mine on the sister psyche TF when the tank DCd (7 man team after tank dcd) There is nothing wrong with EM at all but the elec synergy is not to be underestimated, you can also end drain a GM in less than a minute and keep him there too.

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Plight

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which would they be? kracken went down to 0 in about 30 seconds

elec/elec is a winner in pvp and pve, great damage and control mechanisms. Short circuit + power sink means you can drain entire mobs of their endurance almost instantly meaning they cannot attack while you and your team destroy them. My elec/elec was actually playing tank (sucessfully) on a recent TF after our tank DCd.

The damage is as good as it gets for blaster secondaries

Mine has 3 single target holds and can make people much bfs pretty damn quickly and can break mez protection very quickly.

I really recommend it.

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Why cant an arena entrance, sortof like pocket D, be placed outside or inside pvp zones?

I dont mind that people duel, but I really am sick and tired of being shouted at or called names for attacking someone only to find that they are duelling and expect the zone to come to a standstill just for them.

Even if I am informed they are duelling, I feel they are fair game and if they wish to duel there are arenas about just for that purpose.

I go into a pvp zone to fight, not to stand about while people get offensive and expect everyone else to play to their rules, so an arena entrance would solve this, and if anyone then duelled in pvp zones, people could kill them without being lectured on etiquette or just plain flamed.

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U dont need lecturing on etiquette, you are one of the good eggs

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That's what I already said

But the actual action of doing it is not against the EULA. What is (apparantly) against the EULA is how the person on the receiving end feels.

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And as has already been said it depends if your use of this tactic is to weaken your opponent for you to kill them yourself. If your plan is to dump them there, hold/immob and have a laugh while the mob kills them then quite clearly it is in no uncertain terms greifing.

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Repeatedly causing debt on purpose is griefing

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Not to everyone it isn't. And the act of causing debt as an action isn't against the EULA, it's a tactic.

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Please explain how deliberately causing someone debt is a tactic? These are your words and Im all ears

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Sorry I meant TPing into mobs is a tactic, causing debt is a result of this action and the action isn't against the EULA.

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In your opinion that is, and yet as the EULA shows quite clearly in its oh so ambiguous way, if the other person feels they are been abused/harrassed/greifed then it is.

Do what you want, play how you want, send petitions if you are feeling wronged and if a ban is in order it will be forthcoming and changes will result Im sure.

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Repeatedly causing debt on purpose is griefing

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Not to everyone it isn't. And the act of causing debt as an action isn't against the EULA, it's a tactic.

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Please explain how deliberately causing someone debt is a tactic? These are your words and Im all ears

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Indeed, i think it's a very odd statement from Bridger.

Whilst I see that the company have to protect people from feel abused/griefed/harrassed I don't know how they judge levels of abuse. Can only assume it's on a case by case basis.

I could feel abused by a stalker using his boombox, does that mean if I petition him for being against the EULA any further action would be taken?

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by all means petition away, I would hate for your sensibilities to be offended by such an odious practice I am sure it will recive the attention it deserves and approriate action taken

and yes all petitions will be done on a case by case basis, the game is too complex to have any form of generic 'benchmark'

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you may not agree with it, but name calling doesn't help.

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Debting someone really doesnt help either

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But only one of the above is against the EULA.

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Not true, if by debting someone feels they are being abused, harrassed or greifed then it is against the eula, have a read, its quite an ambigous document.

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you may not agree with it, but name calling doesn't help.

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Debting someone really doesnt help either

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1. Can we have an example of a mob tp'ing that would violate the EULA please? As getting an exact set of rules from you is like getting blood out of a stone.

2. Can you put a big story on the front page about mob tp'ing and how it is not griefing? Would save me, the GM and the players I do it to A LOT of time.

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1. with the huge amount of variables that are possible in a MMORPG with humans in control, a set of hard and fast rules is not possible which is why the eula is worded in a vague and ambiguous way. It all comes down to the GMs own opinion and interpretation of the events.

2. It is certainly possible that mob tping can be and contribute to griefing, harrassment etc etc within the confines of a highly dynamic environment like COx, especially with large amounts of variables, circumstances and possibilities available.

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But EA would be used as soon as it was up (hasten and 2 recreds in the power) and it has two end mods in it.

And hibernate as well for end regain.

Like I said, it would require a bit of playing on the test server to see how feasible it is.

I also despise cookie cutter "normal" builds - I like to push to the extreme

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my builds are as extreme as they come and I really wouldnt like to try this, if you are hibernating to recover end then you are not tanking. I know ice tanks who struggle on end even with stamina

good luck

*edit* it also means that you will be essentially unable to fight against certain foes, carnies, freaks, malta, any mobs with a modicum of end drain will screw you over royal. At least thats the way I see it as there is no safety net built in.

for pve I would go elec/elec personally, its got great damage and control and I was tanking on mine on the sister psyche TF when the tank DCd (7 man team after tank dcd) There is nothing wrong with EM at all but the elec synergy is not to be underestimated, you can also end drain a GM in less than a minute and keep him there too.

not a good idea from what I am reading on the heroplanner

running those toggles with no stamina together with no travel running will give you recovery of .357, with sprint running you will have end recovery of 0.036!!, this means that without jusicious use of EA you will be crashing. I personally dont like tunning alts with less than 1.6 end recovery even with end restoration powers like power sink but thats just me,

I dont think I would find that build fun, and would be hell on earth but it could conceibably work

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Bridger where is the line drawn when someone intentionally gives you debt in a PvP Zone ?

Is it considered if you enter a PvP zone you should be prepared for anything that happens in the zone including debt ?

is it in a pvp zone anything goes?

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Within the EULA, yes.

Just TPing someone into critters isn't against the EULA. Harrassment, abusive or innappropriate language and so on are.

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and therein is the whole point, harrassment, abusive or innappropriate language is against the EULA and is entirely subjective to whoever is making judgements on it. It doesnt matter in the slightest whether you think you were guilty or not, if the GM reveiwing the incident does thats all that matters and there is nothing you can do about it.

The pvp zones are not a lawless land where anything goes and we are actually fortunate that the GMs DO act on the petitions that are sent.

As far as I can tell the vast majority go to the pvp zones to ahve fun, so we should all be having fun, pvping and not acting like a [censored] imho

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in the latest patch they put live and then took down on the US training server some fire attacks now have -fly. Obviously this is in prelude to fear being removed from the game.

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I can only presume this is sarcasm in some form as it is not a true statement

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As to spines/regens, I dont consider that they are overpowered.

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they arent at lvl 50, they are however has been pointed out the highest damaging scrapper in lvl 30 pvp and has range

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spines/regen is an awesome set, it just feels a little tarnished to me now for some reason.

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After certain fire/kin pwned her badly in arena u mean? u were very proud of it before that ^^

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not really there are many sets that a regen cannot and should not win against, spines has no stuns so you need no BFs and you cannot stack damage enough to beat kins heal + greens before holds stack over mez and BFs. Its no where near unbeatable just in zonal its harder to lock down the set and apply the proceedures to finish them off, /thermals /ice, kin, the list has many more. But when 50% of the heroes in sirens are on spines/regen scrappers I see little point in playing mine.

I have no faith in the devs ability to impliment anything right following the AV buff which they didnt even test before it went live and its subsequent rollback

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I dont think the spines is overpowered as Broadsword is much better damage in RV.

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I agree, in lvl 50 pvp the other scrapper sets ahve caught it up with their lvl 32 move, pre level 30 though spines is the biggest hitter and with a ranged attack.

I find it a little sad that so many jump on it, get to early to mid 30s and just use them as an SC tool, spines/regen is an awesome set, it just feels a little tarnished to me now for some reason.

stalker have far less HPs than blasters which is silly for a melee class.

Personally I think they should get a serious HP buff, lose a ton of the AS damage, keep the crits from hide as in my opinion its not as useful in real combat (outside of soloing pve missions) as scrappers critical hit ability.

If your first char is a spine/regen then good luck and have fun with it, you just happened to pick a pair of sets that many many people are picking purely becuase it is strong in lvl 30 pvp. You wont see the benefits till 30ish when you have full slots and SOs ripper and impale with a crit on either will fell a stalker, corr or dom. The main beef with it if you will is the huge damage impale does at range (even worse when it crits) it puts many blasters ranged attacks to shame which is quite frankly stupid as their primary is ranged, its also as powerful as broadswords lvl 26 power and yet is available at lvl 8. Its also more powerful than spines lvl 32 move (which is aoe) so it seems its high damage was intended to boost the lower damage aoe attack but the upshot is that spines has more lower powers that do more damage than other scrapper sets. Other scrapper sets do not equal the damage pre lvl 30.

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no point in hating on the spines scrappers (even tho i cnt stand them and thats why i made dm/rgn) they'll get a nerf soon enuf plus the higher u get ive noticed the less effective spines scrappers get.i met a spines scrapper in sirens with a rep of 300(ish) not that thats amazing but 4 lvls later when he hits 33 he's getting creamed in warbug? buy sum ss/stone brute why is this so??

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spines and regen peak at 30 imo, throw spines is aoe and isnt high enough burst damage to turn one set awesome like headsplitter does. Regens last 2 powers serve no real purpose in pvp, MOG is nigh on useless for scrappers in warburg and RV due to the crazy amount of psi damage about.

Its perfectly viable for high level pvp but it doesnt really get any better than at SC

I dont even play mine anymore....