Stalk_obot_EU

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THIS IS A VERY GOOD BUILD


[/ QUOTE ]6 slotted barrage, 3 damres in unstoppable, underslotted bonesmasher and invinc? Yeah, right...

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What do you suggest m8? I think bonesmasher need a stun slot, invincibility need 3 end redux too? This is my first tanker, i would appreciate your idea.

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slotting kick or boxing would be better than barrage as the damage is better, boxing has disorient too and is faster to activate. Take all slots from barrage for high level play IMO.

unstoppable seems slotted fine imo, i like maxing res especially with -res powers out there.

put a recharge into energy transfer.

an end red wouldnt go amiss in invince even though it is the cheapest toggle.

Jum is clearly top gun in all categories.....

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Well I can say when I had access to Israfel, I took on several Fire Aura/? Tankers and beat everyone of them 1v1 in the arena.. so I know Fire Aura is out of that equation.


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i guarantee u no scrapper wud kill my fire tank in a 1v1 duel

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I will give you a go in a no travel power duel

try em/regen, very easy to get into, very easy to introduce you to the stalker AT

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So a few months have passed since the last top gun thread so i thought it was time for a new one. So let's list the top 5 of each archetype

Blasters:

Gatling
Captain Freon
Bitter Ice
Chill
(Can't decide on the 5th)



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No Plight Trawler? im not sure if i can be bothered to read the rest of the list now...

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indeed, plight owned bridger for atlas's sake. bets blaster PvP wise i know, cept maybe jum

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I love you Lost, here, have a Muffin!

And his scrapper Dark, is called Spine Shooter.

[/ QUOTE ]I will reinstall test at some point and we can try it out Jum, you're getting far too famous for me to not want to try, let me get the CoP out of the way and I will let ya know . You are gonna be hating those sonic rooting animations

Plight

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he will also hate your end drain, conversely you will hate his powerboosted ranged stun

xans sonic/sonic should prob deserve a mention

ah AR/EM, my first ever alt back on release. Just dont think about how good this combo used to be.........*sob*

bs/sr is hard work to get high but once there it rocks

always get aid self with SR

I like my ice/ss but fire/em (for burst damage) or fire/ss (for sustainable damage) are leagues ahead in pvp imo

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Spine scrapper can immob from range as well, has more hitpoints and I beleive they do more damage

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Scrappers have a higher base BI than stalkers, I dont remember the specific numbers but it is a significant difference over the stalkers.

the random number gods that watch over SRs can be both a kind or a harsh mustress. Personally I love my SR and solod Infernal (as an EB) and his portal without dying, that damn portal takes a lifetime solo.

seeing as how you have no idea on the lenght of status effects that you apply via the use of your powers its not a fair bug or something people should accept, its not supposed to happen so should be fixed.

Stalkers dont overacheive in pvp, they overacheive in a certain lvl range along with spines/regens.

Its a bug thats been tested and identified and should be fixed, the code to fix is already in place for pve

As I see it technically nothing is exploiting its just poor design/bad coding. Exploit is usually used by the devs to shift the onus of blame onto the player and not their work, after all if they coded and designed properly there would be nothing to exploit.

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It's all so stupid and avoidable as well. In Warburg, you can't attack each other while in your base zone as you get flagged as a friendly target as soon as you enter it.


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Actually, that would be a very good idea - they could use the same code they use in Pocket D.

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i supose the other option is to give the drones the full spectum of leadership powers up def damage perception tp for resistance and give them the ability to cast vengence so when somebody is killed by one of these exploits everthing in the area gets a nice boost to increase there chances of finding the person responsible and dealing with them

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thats a fair point, it would be easy to give the drones +def which would lower the base camping and mean base tpers wouldnt be able to get a lock on as would miss.

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And psychic mastery as an epic pool seems to fit a lot of defenders perfectly. Telekinesis can be awesome in PVP fights. Dominate, mind over body, telekinesis.

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heroes get these powers as epics?
Sheesh, the villains ones really are pants by comparison. Btw. I'm not sure psychic assault for doms works the same as for psychic blast. SR's are still a bugger to hit.

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some psi powers are untyped (not ranged, melee of aoe) and bypass defence based sets which is a little naughty given SRs description. They still need a tohit roll but you have as much chance of hitting an SR as with a regen

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can the Americans transfer any chars over here? I believe it's easier to do? didnt you do so with stalk?

If so, then we at Retribution incorp. hereby invite them to ply their trade over here and show us noobs that have only been playing the game for nearly 2 years, how it is done.

I can guarantee almost every aspect of pvp has been played with over here. I honestly believe the skills of the guys I play with are second to none, so I truly believe we would make your over confidence in your hami-ridden friends vapourise in no time.

Thats my opinion, so go fetch!!

( shall we say test server next weds 8.30pm? be there or be afraid of the trans-atlantic flight! )

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LOL

Yes its easy to transfer but no offence I dont think any are going to leave their pvp laden shores and pay for the priviledge of fighting you

On a serious note, I cant see you being happy with the amount of pvp on EU, Im enjoying freedom and would like to (and am) heartily recommending it to everyone, its a shame to see good players stuck where there is little to do.

I managed to get my ill/emp deep into villain base yesterday and brawled an afk mm to death (emp spec)

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OK, one on one rad/rad is awesome. Anyone who thinks different should try facing teh fusion from time to time.

Now, as i'm a scientist, i'm going to educate some people..

Stating the Americans are better at pvp than us pitiful EU types is known as an Opinion.

Seeing us poor EU types getting mashed by the Americans would make that a Fact.

As the latter has NOT occured, we must all agree that this is just an Opinion.

Now the only Fact i have since discovered is; I was not impressed by the countless pvp videos the Americans have posted on youtube.

but maybe thats just my opinion...

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well i dont tend to watch videos of someone else playing computer games so will ahve to take your word for it, I will reiterate my beleif that the americans will mash you silly, and I will reiterate what I said several times that this will be the case for a time Do i think you lack the ability to adapt? no.

But this is all largely irrelevant, as you are on the EU, I think you and your cohorts should come over and ply your trade, you would love it, the amount of pvp is awesome and I have no doubt you will learn. I mean really what are you going to learn on EU? Its been outgrown and you can only stagnate as opposed to continue to improve.

Put your EU account on hiatus, grab a code from plaync.com and log in, it really doesnt take long to get to 50 especially with people you know and depend on. You lose nothing as if its not for you you just come back, bring your toons and any HOs you get back with you. You have an opportunity to indulge in a whole lot more of what you enjoy as opposed to scrimping around for what little pvp you can find on the EU. Its a [censored] to lose the alts you spent so long building but its all lessons learned, my good stuff and HOs are on Champion but I am now playing on freedom just for the sheer numbers and PVP.

i think /ff is being overlooked, dispersion enables you to prevent all the squishies from being held/disoriented as well as all the def boosts. An earth bubble would be hell to solo but would be great team support

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And when we fought and when I have lost im not in the best of moods due to the competitive nature of the game and seek rationale from logical sources, IOPs should ahve been installed, TS should ahve been used. Personally I prefer zonal or random team arena events as the tribal mentality doesnt come to the surface so much.


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Stalk, in all honesty I have no qualms with you but next time you might want to seek the logical explanation that opponent was better than you Its what I consider first myself, and then search ways to improve.

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yeah cos thats just what all people do when in a competetive streak, Im quite honest with myself

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i'd love to se an offender in a pendant team. instead of the normal empath. i think the team with the offender would lose quite badly.

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go over and see try it out

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And no offence but the US pvpers dick all over the EU lot

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I think this would be what sparked the retaliation.

Although you have experience on both sides, you have never actually fought against us when playing as our proper team or much at all for that matter, so you shouldn't be so conclusive in your statements.

The other thing is that whenever we have fought, you have had a bit of a paddy about our use of teamspeak and IoPs, neither of which we have ever used.

I would personally love to have our team on the US servers and challenge anyone and everyone that wants a match, as it's so hard to come by decent team PvP over here. I'd actually be willing to transfer my main just to do this if it were possible. A few of us dont have much time for levelling anymore though, so we cant just start again over there im afraid

Again, no offence intended by any of that, lets keep things civil please

And sorry for the derailage.

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As an EU player I fully include myself and anyone I team with in the whole dicking comment, Im moderately competant on the EU, no where near the best but feel like a new born babe out there. Its just a whole new paradigm and I love it, its reinvigorated the game for me as the accepted norm for characters no longer exist (well ok ice/em still rocks but I prefer ice/elec personally)

And true I dont know how you would fare out there in actuallity but in your current incarnation and set up I would wager very heavily on the americans, the word hardcore doesnt begin to describe some of them, its more like a lifestyle (which is actually a bit sad) and I cant conceive of you guys sacrificing so much of yourselves over something that is a fun hobby.

And when we fought and when I have lost im not in the best of moods due to the competitive nature of the game and seek rationale from logical sources, IOPs should ahve been installed, TS should ahve been used. Personally I prefer zonal or random team arena events as the tribal mentality doesnt come to the surface so much.

.....go to freedom......buy US codes........

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we've never used IoPs purely cos we dont have a clue how to get them

as valens said we were undefeated against a lot of people from the french server so i believe we wud defo give them a good fight

other than that ur post actually made a whole lot of sense

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I dont doubt you would do well against the US once you ahve adapted to their setups and playstyle, but some of the things I ahve seen out there (especially on the hero side) is frightening, offenders are definately in

Im loving the variety and change, the lack of stalkers in every zone and hoards of corrupters rampaging through swarms of heroes

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I dont put much sway in 1v1s anyway, as most people know some builds just dont cut it against others, and some cut it against most. Chilli's fire/rad only managed to kill my elec/em after burning all my break frees with 3 minutes to go (at this point I was winning), and Im struggling to imagine a rad/psi being more effective. I still think I could beat Chilli with the right set of insps and a bit of luck concerning the map (and i do mean just regular insps).

About the EU vs US thing. I cant really comment too well because I havent played there, but our pentad team destroyed absolutely everything the French could throw at us for a few months in a row, and they took it very seriously, but probably not as seriously as the americans. They also pl'd several different teams specifically to beat us and didnt even come close. Also, we've never once even used teamspeak. I think we could give them a run for their money.

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I also dont care much for 1v1, its too much like a number crunch and I like the variety and inherant chaos of more people which is why I play the zones (as the arena is usually dead and slow to organise)

The US have some odd builds and do pretty damn good things with them, I was on my ice/ss teamed with a ice/em and a rad/sonic defender attacked us and gave us a serious run for our money despite me perma taunting him. If it wasnt for aim/bu of the blaster and KO blows insane range we would ahve lost, a unusualy pvp configuration was used to great effect.

I dont think there is anything left for you guys to do on the EU servers anymore, really I dont. I think you would love a server transplant as would result in more challanges and open up the whole thinking aspect of pvp for you once again.

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In honesty, I'm struggling to get my head around a rad/psi beating everything 1v1, and would very much need to see it in action...

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Check the US boards, its one of the new fotms and everyone is starting theirs after seeing the effectiveness of a few people, I have one myself

Also its worth noting that some psi attacks bypass defence as are untyped (which is certainly a little unfair on SRs as its specifically says your defences work v psi, but hey, who beleives the power desciptions these days)

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just because the americans like it it doesnt actually make it good

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Nope but the players behind them do, and rad is always good and untyped (not classed as melee, aoe or ranged) and unresisted damage seems like a good idea to me .

And no offence but the US pvpers dick all over the EU lot, they take hardcore to another level and what becomes good over here was being played 6 months ago there. If they say its good I beleive them. Of course you could always get US codes and show your mettle over there, with what you consider to be strong builds, as opposed to being just about the only pvp sg with active players on union

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unfortunately i cant afford to get my characters pl'd for me and dont have the time anymore to lvl characters, yea we are one of the few pvp sg's and we've always managed to dick over ur attempts to beat us so wud be funny to see what the all powerful americans do to u, but wait we use imaginary iops to beat u, no other way we cud beat ur bought hami-o'd up toons is there?

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Im not entirely sure why you feel the need to make a personal attack on me, my points were quite valid and (to me) non offensive. As for my attempts to beat "us" I am not sure what I as one person could do regardless of HOs. Besides which HOs dont make your characters stronger, in fact the opposite is true as the maximum you can extract from them is 33% as opposed to 38% for a +3. They do however allow you to free up a lot of slots, shove in more acc (than is considered norm) and have better end consumption at the expense of res, def and damage.

You seem to overstate your importance as beating you is in no way shape or fomr an aim of mine, I was merely stating a fact that the US is in a totally different league to the EU in all aspects amd are at the forefront of PVP. If you could take your SG and transplant it to the US i firmly beleive you would be given a short sharp shock as you will no longer house the majority of the pvpers on the server and the competition would be of a totally different level and mindset. Would you always get stuffed? no because I am confident in your ability to learn and adapt as I have never stated any of you as being bad players.

However as you are pvpers and the efforts you put in to get PVP going on the server seems to me that you would get a whole LOT more by creating/recreating new toons on the US as you wouldnt have to go far to find what you are looking for and would have the ability to make more interesting builds (2 hami raids in 4 hours the other night)

On champion I can level my concepts insanely quickly due to friends, people and the amount of HOs I can barter with, and thats where the majority of my 50s are, however I am now playing on freedom for the potentialy more numerouos pvp so whilst Im networking I ahve the same constraints as anyone else on a new server and yet still gound my way to several lvl 30s in a short space of time and Im confident that copetant players such as youselves can acheive and suppass this, its not like you dont know what you are doing is it? Nor is getting to 50 especially hard.

It is hard to go from the top of the tree to the bottom of the pile which is what a server change will do, however I strongly feel that the rewards would be there for you as well as multiplying your favourite aspect of the game (pvp) by a significant magnitude.

Think rad/psi sucks? go show them what works then.

IOPs? yeah I reckon you had them, not due to your "performance" but purely due to the fact that it is an obvious and easy advantage to apply on the test server.