Siolfir

Clinical depression != demoralized.

But I guess having someone throw rocks at you makes heroes go all emo... I guess they should just add a /wrist emote that gets forced before you fall over.

Or, they could just con grey and be easily killed and make you have to pick them out of the target list or else fail for killing even one. People think they're tough because they were deliberately made so. There's no excuse for almost everything you run into in Praetoria being at least level 54.

Edit: Like I said, it would have made a much better arc outside of the Incarnate system. But this inexplicable need that everything has to revolve around Praetoria for the first half of your Incarnate career is, in my opinion, a complete waste of the potential of what the trials could be. Even using the exact same mechanics and a different enemy group that isn't "same old same old" and looks as if they should be more powerful would make it far more palatable.

You don't come back from the hospital from being demoralized.

It's older than Victorian... it's a Puritanical outlook.

Violence was openly accepted as a religious practice ("convert or kill the heathens!") from a Puritanical - and older - perspective. Sex was kept behind closed doors. Titillation is a guilty pleasure, so sex sells even while people publicly protest the evils of it and preach about how children shouldn't be exposed and people shouldn't flaunt their bodies.

Note that I'm not saying that it should be that way.

There are numerous posts in this very thread talking about how that nifty little "Kryptonite radiation" field is still in effect and the civilian-thrown-rock is doing more damage than the huge robot's plasma rifle.

Please explain how we're supposed to "just get that" in a rationale that would seem reasonable to someone who understands the concept of "a plasma rifle is more dangerous than a rock".

Then while you're at it, explain why these aren't present in earlier encounters - like, for example, when you're tearing through their army. After all, as has been brought up before, if only a handful of their psychics are capable of bringing a entire league of incarnates to something roughly weaker than your average toddler (to be killed by a thrown rock - most toddlers are more durable than that) then what good does it do to have public sentiment on our side?

a) You won't find that comment (or sentiment) from me anywhere. Edit: although I suppose it does matter what you consider a "gimmick". Level shifts don't count in my mind; they're just a lazy way to artificially add challenge when a better mechanic would suffice. Nor does the "huge sack of hit points that you can go to sleep beating down" that Reichsman has.

b) What you quoted was referring to the fact that we're fighting the same enemies we've already beaten. The story had to suffer ("Now they're empowered! Really!") in order to reuse them, and the lore about the Well just keeps getting worse and worse to justify wrapping up the Praetorian storyline via the Incarnate system instead of just a regular level 50 story arc.

c) There's a sense of regression the further you go along because you aren't facing new, bigger things.

But the challenging parts don't have to come from the same things we've seen before, just with more levels and higher base to-hit. I like the comment earlier about how the tutorial feels more epic than the Incarnate trials - it's far easier, but it feels bigger because of what everything looks like.

There are some good arcs redside. Just nobody playing them because of the self-fulfilling method of people flocking to the higher population.

Praetoria never, ever, ever should have been Incarnate content. Extradimensional Marcus Coles are a dime a dozen, and this one should never have been made any different. At the absolute most, a trial to take down Tyrant and the Praetorian Hamidon (potentially in stages, or at the same time). Every single trial so far could be tacked into a single-team story arc that would be interesting to play once or twice for the story (when you don't have to grind them). The Well should have been non-sentient and only a source of power, and there should only have been one.

The only reason I can come up with for making it so Praetoria-intensive was to justify a marketing decision to lock people out of the alpha slot if they didn't buy Going Rogue, which is a completely moot point since it's now VIP only.

Musculature alpha helps, I suppose. But then, I tend to either precede or follow it with another AoE, meaning there's not a whole lot left standing.

But if it kills them, then where is the aggro coming from?

You are correct.

Example:
Pure energy attack dealing 1000 damage hits your Electric Armor Brute who has 90% resistance. Your Brute takes 100 damage.

You use Void for -50% damage. Since -damage effects are resisted by the target's damage resistance* and the purple patch affects everything the mobs aren't doing to themselves, we'll assume the mob is even-con and has 20% energy resistance. This means it's a -40% net effect.

The next energy attack comes in from the mob; it now deals 600 damage due to the -damage. Your Brute takes 60.




* - which means you can do some really fun things with -resistance effects and THEN -damage effects

But you just listed the best reason to slot it.

Per account.

But math is hard!

My Sonic/Cold and Ice/Rad Corruptors took Cryonic for theme, but the title of the thread excludes conceptual reasons.

So you're just a little behind the times?

It's driving you crazy?