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imp and sid
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They tear apart justice when together :/ -
although i must say i'm not minding duel inerrupters that much anymore. If people want to duel they can use arena now, much easier then before....and if someone inerrupts my duel, i have a chance to kill them, with no help from the enemy i'm dueling and the help from my friends. And of course killing anyone who tries is one of the most satisfying things in the game for me.
At the same time my point still stands, nobody has the right to stop something between 2 other people not affecting them. Even if you say it "kills" the zone.....your breaking up 10+ people having fun so u can have fun urself, that's very selfish. Personally i don't hurt anybody for self-gain, but it's obvious how FC police do. Heck i've seen them insult newbies who are just asking basic questions.
But, if you still won't stand down, the duelers have no choice but to make the mature decision themselves and stop the madness by using the arena. Although from what i hear the average dueler on freedom isn't one. Can't say the same about Justice though, don't know many, if any, immature people over there regularly. -
Quote:Originally Posted by Punkture
I am considering joining the Fightclub Police myself. I see too often a duel challenge being called for on Freedom in Sirens Call and the entire zone moving to one spot or the other to spectate. This typically kills most of the zone PVP for a considerable amount of time as people huddle about to watch the fights.
I normally do not disturb the duelers while I pursue the few players who are obviously still actively playing zone PVP. Invariably there will be players who attempt to defeat the motionless players who are there to witness the duels. I resolve myself to continuing my own zone PVP fun by fighting with these players until zone PVP resumes. I do not expect those who have agreed to become spectators of the duel to attack me as I pursue my target into their midst but that is never the case. I am frequently ganked by those who are not participating in zone PVP. I have even been attacked on several occasions by the person who was dueling even though I had no effect whatsoever upon their duel.
I tried for a while to let the other players know that if I am ganked by the spectators of the duels as I pursue my zone PVP opponent into their midst that the duels will end for the rest of the evening while I am playing. I will target and shoot the most injured player of the opposite side I see, which is normally the ones who are dueling, for the rest of the evening.
This has not resolved the issue for me. Of course I would not pursue a foe into a mob of opposing players who were actively playing zone PVP. That is asking for defeat. But these are players who have made a gentlemens / ladies agreement to become spectators. As such they are no longer participants in the zone PVP or so it would seem but that is not the case. They certainly complain quite loudly when another player attacks a dueler or spectator and interrupts their idea of fun. This happens on both red and blue side. Well zone PVP is my idea of fun. I am done trying to be courteous to these players who swap from dueler to zone player on a whim. I am done with having the dueling area become a safe zone for the zone players who run there knowing that they will be protected by those that are there to duel.
I think I am ready to take the next step and become a full fledged officer in the Fightclub police. I want to protect my precious zone PVP enjoyment and put an end to the boring circle of spectators that could be having epic battles instead. The arena is not far away, is not hard to setup, is barely any more inconvenient than crossing the zone to the hot-dog stand or North East corners for back-ally fisticuffs.
Duelers be warned! There is a new sheriff in town in Sirens Call and I come there often.
Sorry to hear that jerks are bothering you, but hey, it's freedom, it's to be expected.
I myself am a dueler and would not gank someone if they were watching or even if they were running by with low health. Duelers arn't all the same, all i ask is that you do not group unique people into a certain category.
In my opinion the zone is dead when nobody is fighting fairly, i can understand both sides but of course chose one. I do not believe myself to be truely right, as that is the beauty of an opinion. Just some people in the zone have different ways of playing, you shouldn't go and try to change that.
If anybody is switching from dueler to warzone pvper, feel free to always kill them. I don't watch duels so i can go in and out of a "safe zone", as it's an agreement between 2 players (the spectator and the warzone pvper passing) that a fight does not go on, and that can obviously be broken.
All i ask is that you do not group us together and start interrupting the duels of the innocent who are just trying to have fun. Feel free to kill anyone giving my side a bad name. -
Hurl and most -fly powers have -1.4 protection to fly. Fly is only 1 mag. But Hover is 4.
The -fly will stack. Mids says hurl has -fly for 15 seconds. Use it once every 15 seconds and nobody will be able to fly away, unless they use hover, in which case you just stack it 3 times, overcoming the mag 3 fly.
Web grenade, web envelope and entangling arrow have a -10 fly protection for 15-30 seconds. They are much more useful.
If you are a flyer and are basically useless/dead when grounded, i suggest you pick up teleport to get away when someone drops you. If you are attacking a flyer, keep using hurl. -
Quote:Originally Posted by Lucky666
/elec aint the best but I run it on one of my blasters because I already had him made and he's fun to play he's energy/elec which is not FOTM of even close but performs very well for me in zones.
Only advice i can give ya for /elec is slot the placate proc in Havoc punch.
and if u can afford it the -res pvp proc is very nice in lightning field for when ur trying to melee something -
that's great in the new pvp system. /ele has build up, which since doms damage multiplier is much higher, is much more useful. And mind has levitate.
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Anything can be good. If you know how to use that toon you should be able to kill plenty of things. Find it's stregnths/weaknesses, full in any holes with IOs and be creative with the build.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Aerandirel
Do most stalkers have above 911 ft perception (invisibilty[611ft] plus invis-IO[300ft] - the stealth cap for heroes)? I would think one of the best ways to hunt or gain an advantage over a stalker is where you could see them within 10 feet, but they cant see you at all, if its true most stalkers dont bother with perception at all.)
Including the stealth bonus from a recent phase shift (last 2 mins after shifting), a hero could get up to 1133 stealth, which is 10ft away from stealth cap, so even if a stalker had max perception (doubtful-rarely) in this situation they could only see you 20ft away.
Most stalker secondaries come with +precep, like focused senses or the /ninja ranged defense toggle. Heroes cap for stealth is 510 or something, and base precep is 500. If the stalker had no precep at all, he wouldn't be able to see a maxed stealth hero. But as i mentioned before, most have precep, even though they do not aim for it. 10 feet is a lot closer then people think, i stopped aiming for precep cap to kill stalkers because something like caltrops was just so much more useful.
Phase shift doesn't give you +stealth, at least not while it's on.
Hero stealth cap: 510ish
Hero Precep cap: 1113ish
Stalker stealth cap: 1103ish
Stalker precep cap:1113ish
I spec'd my stalker to become a stalker hunter once for warburg. Max precep, when a stalker was about to AS a standing blaster i would AS the stalker. I loved those moments. -
Quote:Originally Posted by Donna_
The difference from perception cap and stealth cap is 10ft. If a stalker has Hide, stealth and Stealth IO 10ft is the best you can hope to achieve.
If you want a stalker hunter i suggest Fire/Regen/Weapons scrapper.
Take tactics, and targetting drone with a perception IO for Perc cap.
Webnade + Caltrops
DoT's to keep stalkers out of hide and regen to ensure your still standing when they start to run.
However the thing about stalker now is they are stupidly overpowered hence why there are nothing but them in zones now.
Hibernate, ?
Phase, ?
Moment of Glory?
With almost every stalker having these at it's disposal the only stalker you are going to hunt and kill will be a very stupid one, or one that suffers from lag.
if nobody has pointed it out, tactics targeting drone and precep IO isn't enough to hit cap for a scrapper. A scrappers tactics gives about 11 less precep then most. I tried it with my scrapper. Was gonna ask here and just figured it out myself by comparing it with others.
Roll MA or broadsword, a lucky crit and you'll hit just over 1000. If stalkers with phase annoy you grab phase. With caltrops you can lay them down beside the hibernating stalker and with Build up you should hit through MoG, unless they slot them but i havn't seen that for a while. And yes i've killed a stalker hitting MoG just under half health, it doesn't make them invincible.
If you want to kill one stalker, i would probably go fire/dev or something like that. If you want to survive an attack of 2-3+, make a regen with caltrops. -
yep, it's not worthless. It's a lot like Martial arts. Except it has divine avalanche...
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Quote:Originally Posted by Torchress
Considering rolling a new dom and wanted to give earth assault a try. Anybody have any experience with this set in PvP? It basically looks like you are getting earth mastery on a troller which is by far the best set for PvP heroside. Considering the destruction of farming (for the most part) I am sure there is limited experience with this set...... maybe a few test server (beta) folks could chime in? I was gonna go Plant/Earth and was hoping I could get not only a good theme, but a decent PvP toon to boot. I have no plant toon yet and have seen several people do pretty well with Plant/. I was thinking Plant/Earth/Mu. Any suggestions/experience would be greatly appreciated and I look forward to your replies :-)
Next to any kind of toon can not only be decent but actually good in pvp.
Go with the RP, learn how to use it, it's strengths/weaknesses and you'll be fine. It can be just as nice as others, but a bit more work and has different tactics. Maybe you need to use TP foe to use seismic smash and trap them in mud pots, who knows, i don't have experience with it yet but unless it's as laughable as AR for cors i'm sure anybody could pull it off with enough time and effort. -
Quote:Originally Posted by OPTICAL_ILLUSION
1. Remove Suppression in the current form and change it to Tribhavok's suggestion.
2. Remove DR.
3. Remove Heal Decay.
4. Give us back Mez Protection and provide X amount of Mez Resistance to ATs without Mez Protection.
5. Put back -Max Run Speed.
6. Closely look at EACH AT and power with PvP in mind.
7. Make improvements to underperforming sets and powers.
8. Allow us to customize our powers attack types (ST, Cone, Targeted AoE, PBAoE...) and secondary effects.
9. Improve Endurance Recovery.
10. Rep cash-in system to purchase PvP IOs.
11. Turn off broadcast chat in PvP zones.
12. Buff pet movement speed.
13. Remove the PvP Resistance bonus and keep the damage holes closed in our "shields".
14. Provide free enhancements to all Fight Club Police members.
15. Consult macskull prior to any additional changes.
16. I will have more suggestions.
17. After a Fight Clubber is arrested by the Fight Club Police have them transported to jail with a 30 minute locked in timer.
18. Create Fight Club Police badges with ranks for X amount of arrests. Officer, Detective, Sergeant, Lieutenant, Captain, Major, Inspector, Chief...
19. PvP server.
20. In addition to signature Heroes and Villains spawning in RV, I would like to see random red names appear as well.
21. I would like to see the statue of Atlas or Recluse animate and attack the faction that has lost. Also, have the dimensional reset occur only after the animation has been defeated.
22. Leader boards would be awesome.
23. Statues to commemorate the current 1st place Heroes and Villains on the leader boards.
24. The Enurance Recovery boost icon should be named [END]REITANNA.
25. All Hide, Invis and Stealth activation animations should be like Reiraku's forum avatar.
26. We might be able to totally trash Suppression if we can change the secondary effects of our powers!
I agree with the following; 1,2, 3, 5, 7, 12, 19, 20 (although they should be more powerful then normal heroes/villains) and 21 may be kinda fun if it helped balance. As for the rest...
Your asking for them to look at every AT and power? that's a lot of work they probably won't even consider, your asking for the impossible.
They shouldn't improve end recovery, that's something you have to fix yourself, it's one of the few things that seperate noobs to non-noobs in a zone. It's a challenge that 'I' for one like getting past.
broadcast on freedoom should be turned off, even i can't stand it there, but it's positive and nice to have on every other server.
lol free enhancements to fight club police? i'm not surprised, you guys want easy kills and now easy money, lazy jerks. I work for what i have and i actually have a sense of accomplishment.
macskull may represent the forums, but most the pvpers i know don't like him.
Police are in this world to enforce rules, there are no rules in city of heroes therefore no police. The FC police are useless, idiotic and find themselves funny while not. How would a 30 min timer be helpful? If you want to kill the zone why not just ask that it's maximum number can only be 3, so you and a friend can constantly kill 1 person?
As for 4/8/13 i don't have enough experience for my opinion be accurate or worthy. I'd only be guessing. -
Lastly, the arena terminals can be accessed from RV. So really the arguement is dead. I prefer using the arena, and now it's as convinent as dueling in a zone. For some reason nobody is using them except for me so far. But go ahead and interrupt them if they are stupid enough not to click about 3 buttons and teleport to the arena map.
And couldn't 2 stalkers get together, start the timer, AS someone and teleport into the arena map safely? -
Quote:Originally Posted by GOTerpsPvP
Actually, there IS an RPS champion. That $hit ain't no joke: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PamB...eature=related
Wow. You should read some of those comments.
"lmao American hero these people are morons"
"I guess it is kind of a challenge to be a complete good-for-nothing idiot! But to be paid for this?!?! Now that's an achievement!!!!
Only in America...
...idiots.."
"I fear for humanity."
Yea good to know i'm not the only one who thinks that. The game is too simple. -
Quote:Originally Posted by Not_Epsilon
Btw, Sentry.
I wouldn't need numbers to kill you, I am solo almost all the time in RV, ask quite a few people in here, my stalker isn't a joke, being under attack from 3-4 people and me just walking away is quite common.
I would also suggest that you d/l test server and copy some toons over there, i would very VERY much like to kill you with my healer.
If brains were dynamite, I very much doubt you would have enough to blow your nose.
PS.
Hai Rei.
Ravens is the worst fiteklubber ever, he got bet by the unbettable Rumble Bug on tri. Tru Storeh.
((JK))
Yea it's easy playing a stalker. Look at my prowler back in the days of SC. I could get into a group of 6+ heroes, kill the squishy and get out alive all day.
I use him in RV, barely though, hate being a coward. if i play him correctly i never die either, although i'm rusty using him now.
An offensive healer? yea i have a build like that on mids. I've seen some good ill/emps in zones.
who's ravens? -
Quote:KoB, jump back and aidself. Or just back up and aidself and jump back in. I've never had a problem kiting if i could still win by doing so, only a problem kiting when i have 0 chance of winning and im just prolonging my death and not giving them a chance at a recipe.Originally Posted by Boomie
How does a warrir without defense fire off Aid Self in a duel anyway?
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BB gets 2 hours and RV only gets one?
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think they went soul storm for the unresisted KU
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just go into rest and see what your resistence is while in a pvp zone, if that doesn't hit cap nothing will solo.
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no u didn't. Mac mentioned it. I was answering him while teaching anybody that read it. And if u want to be good in pvp it's something u should know regardless.
No reason to answer the question about the white dwarf. It's like asking if you can do "reasonable" damage only using brawl/boxing/jab. You should use haymaker and KoB because you'll do more damage.
You have the choice to pick human/nova which do much more damage. Use those. Dwarf wasn't ment for damage. And mac already listed the only things the dwarf form is good for, damage isn't one of them, don't depend on it for damage. -
you don't need to time teleport. You just need to spam it while travel surpressed, if ur free for a fraction of a second, u'll get out of there. I've seen both good human PBs and Nova ones. No real experience so i'm not going to advise anything.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Silit
"Good PvPers" left in i13 because the game's PvP system became too easy/uncompetative. There isn't nearly as much room to employ skill as there was.
As for other people being better in i13... No, they just don't look as bad - and there aren't as many "good" players that care enough to make them look bad. The Detective's evidence:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFPK-6ThK4s
i dont feel like watching that, just explain it if u want me to know
As i've been trying to say, the people who were way better then everyone were dropped to just above average. The less skill there is, the harder it is to see the difference between a good player and a bad. There is no rock, paper, scissors champ for a reason. And if there is it's a joke. -
Quote:i guess that's true, only because the people the message goes out too are the aggressive jerksOriginally Posted by Slax
I just want everyone in game to give me all their Purples and LoTG 7.5s. This is more reasonable than your request.
They can't hold back their instints to kill, no matter the situation. -
Quote:Originally Posted by macskull
A good pre-I13 PvPer will still be able to wreck you, just like good post-I13 PvPers routinely do. They left because the game wasn't fun anymore for them and because the devs decided they'd rather nerf skill than fix what was really wrong with the game.
If you were good before I13, you're still good now. If you weren't good before I13, you probably get an open-zone kill here and there and have a huge head because of it (yes I'm talking to you). You feel the need to have everything handed to you and feel that the only ruleset that should be respected is your own, and you get raged and come post on the forums when people break those rules, which in turn on makes those of us who can PvP laugh at you even more. Worse still, you constantly compare PvP in this game to genocide or other illegal activities, which makes me wonder why you haven't sought professional help yet.
Seriously, if you lose in a no-insp duel on an SS/Fire with Aid Self against a Blaster with no Hibernate or Phase, you are really terrible and what you have to say has zero weight with the rest of us. Sorry.
mac mac mac. i died with honor. i could have just ran for the 10-20 mins, but i decided if i couldn't kill him i had already lost, and therefore dieing didn't matter.
i explained in the other thread that i respect that blaster and seen him around and in torunies even pre i13. <-- think so, memory can be blurry sometimes.
i'm sorry, i didn't know u were that sensative that even commenting about war would hurt your feelings.
It's obvious that the gap between the best and the worse has shrunk, that's all im saying. -
Quote:Originally Posted by OPTICAL_ILLUSION
Dear Sentry4,
Please read the red name post below, reread it slowly, think about it and share it with all your fight club friends.
Niviene
Also, comparing RL human genocide to video game behavior is utterly horrific. You really need some professional help. Really.
Sincerely disgusted with you,
Optical Illusion
Of course he made it allowed, doesn't mean he's not against it. If he did say interrupting duels was petitionable, people would leave the game and complain a lot more then usual. i Quoted him because it's exactly what i've been trying to say.