Scythus

Then there's the mission with recruiting Crey scientists....

Keep in mind, as the character playing through the content, you're the main character, thus Nemesis will be likely producing an automaton of you. Or do you really think that the truth behind the Faultline incident is really solved over and over and over by you and other heroes in the "canon?"

Yet I see the same sort of thing in actual comic books. Really, a lot of actual science gets ignored and handwaved in comics, or have you not ever read a comic book? We have people getting hit by gamma rays and turning into big green monsters because of it. It's just the nature of the genre. You might as well ask 1930s pulp stories to not involve ancient temples with magical relics.

That's missing the point; I was presenting the commonality of clones in comic books. And don't clones in comic books occasionally have the memories of the original? I seem to recall Bizarro, despite being a clone (and an imperfect one at that), easily thought he was Superman right off the bat. And in the Spidey clone saga, there was confusion over who the real Peter Parker really was because of this fact. Well, that solves Frank Castle and Steven Strange, don't it?

From what I recall, the methods that Crey use on the Paragon Protectors, "inserting extra genetic material" to familiarize themselves with their powers is rather ambiguous and can easily be explained as the "memory genes" as it were. It's comic book science, for crying out loud. A robot is easy to build a copy of if you have the schematics, and I presume the same goes for high tech armor like Iron Man's. We did get Iron Monger, y'know.

Someone mentioned earlier that Nemesis' automatons don't have powers to replicate the original's. Where is this stated? I seem to recall that a whole plot involved around a phony Freedom Phalanx invading the Rikti homeworld implies the precise opposite of that assertion.

I'm pretty sure it's "Don't mention this on the board!!!"

If that's all you saw, then you really are lacking.

My sense of taste is lacking, Mr. Bring Back Vanquished Villains for a Bigger, Badder, More XTREEEEM Done Before Plot? Excuse me while I laugh.

Don't you mean Statesman and Faultline?

What.

Oh. Well it would figure that you got confused.

The mere fact that you couldn't follow a simple argument and realize I was talking about the storyline's concept and not its production staff reveals that your opinions are barely worth another thought from me. I get it, you hated the show but it neither sucked, nor were the characters unlikable. If I liked them, then very clearly that makes them likable as I have a tendency to shift into hate very easily.

And Kevin J. Anders—I mean, Coyote_Seven needs to read up on his Hero's Journey as well.

Really? I don't see "original" anywhere in that sentence, so clearly I didn't say any of them were original either. Oh, wait... you're just being a troll. Ah shucks, and I fed you.

Honestly, though... how often do we see a franchise dump most of its formula for a new flavor? Not often. Star Trek did have DS9 and frankly, DS9 is awesome for that. But what else beyond that? I can't really think of anything else that's tried something different from its usual fare.

SGU didn't have the well trained, prepared team that SG-1 and Atlantis had. Instead, they have a completely unprepared and unqualified team and on top of it, they're stuck. That's interesting. It's not a retread of the previous two, so that makes it new.

Go Google the Hero's Journey and discover what it means, then you'll understand that while SGU's a "we're lost" plot, that is not what defines it alone.

How Kevin J. Andersonian.

Anubis is not a loose end. Adria is not a loose end. Both are defeated and stuck in eternal battles for the rest of... well, eternity. I will state that I found Adria's defeat rather disappointing as it was exactly like Anubis' defeat. But oh well, not all of the writing can be stellar.

You cannot be any more wrong than that.

Voyager has nothing in common with SGU save the "far away from home" bit. Voyager was a carbon copy of TNG and a pretty baneful and poor carbon copy at that. It wasted a perfectly good premise and gave us impervious, flawless characters on an impervious, flawless ship.

And what was wrong with the new BSG? I liked the new BSG.

It's certainly a hell lot better than your banal retread, mishmash of the Anubis and Ori arcs. The conception of a premise that you "brainstormed" there represents everything that is wrong with Hollywood; "We'll just do it again, but bigger and better and faster!!!" Your post made me feel physically ill when I read it—Kevin J. Anderson-sucktastic levels of physically ill.

As opposed to the Perfect Super Team that goes off to other places and saves the day no matter how implausible that the previous two Stargates did? That's been done a lot in television in scores upon scores of other shows as well. If you disagree, then I'd like to know what television you've been watching.

I liked SG-1 and Atlantis, but I'd be pretty disappointed if they repeated the same formula for a THIRD time. When you retread the same premise over and over and over within a franchise, you wind up with Star Trek and its hackeyed recycling of old plots.

Really? Is that what all people want these days is just retreads of stuff that came before? SGU took the franchise in a new, interesting direction and it turns out people just want retellings of earlier plots.

Dear lord....

I call them weredeer.

Too slow, I already beat you to that.