Scrapapo

I'll join the channel but I wouldn't make a good moderator, I'm not on often enough. At all.

People hate 'em, mostly squishies that is because they can be taken out without even putting up much of a fight. But to be honest I don't see any less skill from them than I do with other sets, perhaps Controllers and Defenders are tougher to play, hero side that is, but the rest don't take much more to play than Stalkers really.

There'd be a problem with same-name characters from different servers though, wouldn't there?

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What they are saying is that Chives, well, he won't be able to regen anymore, because, well, he'll be lying face first. Like napping, but more, permanent

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You mean, like... sleep? Chives doesn't sleep...

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I couldnt wait to see Chives reply to this, then found none Silly me i forgot he is a blaster

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I didn't need to reply, I get more kills the KS anyways.

It's actually challenging. And wtfpwning people is what I was born to do.

Tell me about it, most of the time as I was winding up another Impale just about every time a damn Forklift would fly over my head towards the target.

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HAhahahaha, only just seen this thread.

I think people have just been had by the biggest wind-up merchant on union.

May have well started a thread entitled; " Hey Union, your all nimmers"

Hahahaha.


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Hehe, I don't really disagree with anyone at all, just made the thread to see what people thought 'skill' was.

I definately know there's a difference between a good player and a bad player, I mean, there are both good players and bad players out there let's face it there has to be something between them! But I'm not completely sure that's got anything to do with skill, or what I'd call skill, I'd more call it... cleverness (and build ).

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Personally, I find scrappers boring and kinda weak, but after teaming a bs/inv scrapper a little while ago.. O_O

He outdamaged me, now that kinda got me in the mood to make a scrapper, but it wasn't enough. Now I feel like making a scrapper but also I don't want to so I was hoping, can somebody maybe try to convince me to make one?

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Max's one will suck compared to this.

Pentad night keeps me playing.

Does that actually matter? You can answer my question now - I see NB's build more geared towards PvP in general than mine, including fighting against an Ill/Rad. Don't you think?

For reference, here they are -

Nightbringer's:

01) --> Lunge==> Acc(1) Dmg(48) Dmg(48) Dmg(50)
01) --> Fast Healing==> Heal(1)
02) --> Reconstruction==> Heal(2) Heal(3) Heal(3) Rechg(5) Rechg(5) Rechg(7)
04) --> Quick Recovery==> EndMod(4) EndMod(7) EndMod(9)
06) --> Build Up==> Rechg(6) Rechg(9) Rechg(11) TH_Buf(11) TH_Buf(13) TH_Buf(13)
08) --> Impale==> Acc(8) Acc(15) Dmg(15) Dmg(17) CentiExp(17) Rechg(19)
10) --> Dull Pain==> Heal(10) Heal(19) Heal(21) Rechg(21) Rechg(23) Rechg(23)
12) --> Confront==> Taunt(12) Taunt(27) Taunt(29) Range(29) Range(31)
14) --> Hurdle==> Jump(14) Jump(48) Jump(50)
16) --> Integration==> Heal(16) Heal(25) Heal(25) EndRdx(27)
18) --> Swift==> Run(18)
20) --> Resilience==> DmgRes(20)
22) --> Assault==> EndRdx(22)
24) --> Hasten==> Rechg(24) Rechg(31) Rechg(31)
26) --> Ripper==> Acc(26) Acc(33) Dmg(33) Dmg(33) Dmg(34) Rechg(34)
28) --> Instant Healing==> Heal(28) Heal(34) Heal(36) Rechg(36) Rechg(36) Rechg(37)
30) --> Tactics==> EndRdx(30) TH_Buf(37) TH_Buf(37)
32) --> Throw Spines==> Acc(32) Acc(39) Dmg(39) Dmg(39) Dmg(40) Rechg(40)
35) --> Combat Jumping==> Jump(35) Jump(40)
38) --> Super Speed==> EndRdx(38) Run(42) Run(42)
41) --> Focused Accuracy==> TH_Buf(41) TH_Buf(42) TH_Buf(43) EndRdx(43) EndRdx(43) EndRdx(45)
44) --> Laser Beam Eyes==> Acc(44) Dmg(45) Dmg(45) Dmg(46) Range(46) Range(46)
47) --> Super Jump==> EndRdx(47)
49) --> Stamina==> EndMod(49) EndMod(50)


My own -

01) --> Lunge==> Acc(1)
01) --> Fast Healing==> Heal(1) Heal(13) Heal(46)
02) --> Spine Burst==> Acc(2) Dmg(3) Dmg(3) Dmg(5) Rechg(21) Rechg(21)
04) --> Quick Recovery==> EndRec(4) EndRec(5) EndRec(23)
06) --> Reconstruction==> Rechg(6) Rechg(7) Rechg(7) Heal(15) Heal(23) Heal(31)
08) --> Impale==> Acc(8) Dmg(9) Dmg(9) Dmg(15) Rechg(31) Rechg(31)
10) --> Build Up==> Rechg(10) Rechg(11) Rechg(11)
12) --> Hasten==> Rechg(12) Rechg(13)
14) --> Super Speed==> Run(14)
16) --> Integration==> Heal(16) Heal(17) Heal(17) EndRdx(37)
18) --> Dull Pain==> Rechg(18) Rechg(19) Rechg(19) Heal(34) Heal(37) Heal(37)
20) --> Hurdle==> Jump(20)
22) --> Health==> Heal(22)
24) --> Stamina==> EndRec(24) EndRec(25) EndRec(25)
26) --> Ripper==> Acc(26) Dmg(27) Dmg(27) Dmg(39) Rechg(40) Rechg(40)
28) --> Instant Healing==> Heal(28) Heal(29) Heal(29) Rechg(40) Rechg(43) Rechg(50)
30) --> Kick==> Acc(30)
32) --> Throw Spines==> Acc(32) Dmg(33) Dmg(33) Dmg(33) Rechg(34) Rechg(34)
35) --> Tough==> DmgRes(35) DmgRes(36) DmgRes(36) EndRdx(36)
38) --> Moment Of Glory==> DmgRes(38) DefBuf(39) DefBuf(39)
41) --> Focused Accuracy==> EndRdx(41) EndRdx(42) EndRdx(42) TH_Buf(42) TH_Buf(43) TH_Buf(43)
44) --> Laser Beam Eyes==> Acc(44) Dmg(45) Dmg(45) Dmg(45) Rechg(46) Rechg(46)
47) --> Energy Torrent==> Acc(47) Dmg(48) Dmg(48) Dmg(48) Rechg(50) Rechg(50)
49) --> Resilience==> DmgRes(49)

Now tell me that his build isn't as well geared to beating what an Ill/Rad can throw out. I don't know about you but looking at both these, I'd say the first is a little better geared towards fighting Ill/Rads, and generally in PvP altogether. Wouldn't you?

I've seen his planned build and you've seen mine. Mine, to be honest is quite far off a PvP build.

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You should know better Chives. Balance isnt in 1on1's.

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...Imag was suggesting someone to meet him in the arena, I assumed he wanted a 1v1. Didn't he?

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Im getting tired of this, wanna meet me in the arena to show me your correct or are you afraid.

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Why don't you roll something not cookie-cutter in PvP and actually prove your point? Why don't you roll a Claws Scrapper or Assault Rifle Blaster and prove there's skill involved?

If anyone can beat me, in fact, with a Claws Scrapper or Assault Rifle Blaster then I will eat my words. Until then PvP doesn't take skill. Funny how someone with an Ill/Rad and Ice/Energy in their sig says otherwise I think.

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1) Kill Chives. Repeatedly.

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S'cuse me, I get the rest of them but this one doesn't make any sense to me.

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I think what hes trying to say is "kill Chives, repeatedly"

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Nope, still don't get it...

I like Spiney McSpinerton best.

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1) Kill Chives. Repeatedly.

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S'cuse me, I get the rest of them but this one doesn't make any sense to me.

It was me. I did it.

I shall throw the pig.

I prefer the Arena too, actually. I rarely step into PvP zones myself but they deserve more credit than 'kill X of Y in base' which is so routine for some people they can do them blind-folded.

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PvP:

You kill me.

etc...

At lest PvE has a story and a sense of progress.

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PvE is-

You kill him
Kill next
Kill next
Kill next
So on, and so on, and so on.

There is more thought to PvP than you give it credit for, you need to be on your toes because the thing that you are fighting does not have the exact same routine as the million things you've kill before does. I like to be challenged, PvE doesn't provide that at all.

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Um...I can't ride a bike....

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Have you tried? It takes a day, tops.

Thing is when you step into a PvP zone you don't have a clue what you're going to be fighting, whereas when you step into a 'defeat all Malta in base' mission, depending on Teamsize and difficulty you know exactly what you need to do and roughly what you're up against.

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how come nightbringer can destroy my ice / nrg blaster, but I can destroy all the other scrappers I have meet?

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Post NB's build and post the builds of the other Scrappers please.