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forgot to add that my scrapper doesnt get 2 shotted by stalkers in wb because i have all the HP accolade buffs
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I notice stamina is a bit late, would want to stuff it in the 20s for Sirens use
Might just be me but I cant live without stamina >.<
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I thought the same thing but after playing my scrap for awhile without i dont really need it. barely have any end problems in WB, and if i do get low i just pop a cab or use elude.
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None takes evasion for pvp dude lol.
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i do -
This is the exact build i use on live server and it seems to work really well since even TG has trouble killing me
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.21
http://www.honourableunited.org.uk/mhd.php
Level 50 Mutation Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Spines
Secondary Power Set: Super Reflexes
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Medicine
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery
Hero Profile:
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Level 1: Lunge Acc-I:50(A)
Level 1: Focused Fighting LkGmblr-Rchg+:38(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx:38(3), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg:38(5), LkGmblr-Def:38(19), GftotA-Run+:38(21)
Level 2: Focused Senses LkGmblr-Rchg+:38(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx:38(3), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg:38(5), LkGmblr-Def:38(19), GftotA-Run+:38(21)
Level 4: Agile LkGmblr-Rchg+:38(A), LkGmblr-Def:38(13), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg:38(13), GftotA-Run+:38(23)
Level 6: Build Up HO:Membr(A), HO:Membr(7), HO:Membr(7)
Level 8: Impale HO:Centri(A), HO:Centri(9), HO:Centri(9), HO:Nucle(34), Enf'dOp-Acc/Rchg:50(34), TotHntr-Acc/Rchg:50(34)
Level 10: Practiced Brawler RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(11), EndRdx-I:50(11)
Level 12: Combat Jumping GftotA-Run+:38(A), Ksmt-ToHit+:30(15), DefBuff-I:50(50)
Level 14: Super Jump HO:Micro(A), HO:Micro(15)
Level 16: Dodge LkGmblr-Rchg+:38(A), LkGmblr-Def:38(17), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg:38(17), GftotA-Run+:38(23)
Level 18: Swift Run-I:50(A), Run-I:50(46)
Level 20: Quickness Run-I:50(A), Run-I:50(46)
Level 22: Stimulant IntRdx-I:50(A)
Level 24: Aid Self Mrcl-Heal:38(A), Mrcl-Heal/EndRdx:38(25), Mrcl-Heal/Rchg:38(25), Mrcl-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg:38(40), IntRdx-I:50(40), IntRdx-I:50(40)
Level 26: Ripper Sciroc-Acc/Dmg:38(A), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx:38(27), Sciroc-Dmg/Rchg:38(27), Sciroc-Acc/Rchg:38(37), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:38(37), Acc-I:50(43)
Level 28: Hasten RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(29), RechRdx-I:50(29)
Level 30: Health Numna-Regen/Rcvry+:38(A), Mrcl-Rcvry+:38(31), Mrcl-Heal:38(31), RgnTis-Regen+:30(31)
Level 32: Throw Spines Posi-Acc/Dmg:38(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx:38(33), Posi-Dmg/Rchg:38(33), Posi-Dmg/Rng:38(33), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:38(37), Acc-I:50(43)
Level 35: Evasion LkGmblr-Rchg+:38(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx:38(36), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg:38(36), LkGmblr-Def:38(36)
Level 38: Elude HO:Membr(A), HO:Membr(39), HO:Membr(39), Run-I:50(39), Run-I:50(42)
Level 41: Stamina EndMod-I:50(A), EndMod-I:50(42), EndMod-I:50(42)
Level 44: Focused Accuracy HO:Cyto(A), HO:Cyto(45), HO:Cyto(45)
Level 47: Quills TmpRdns-Acc/Slow:50(A), P'ngTtl-Acc/Slow:50(48), TmpRdns-Acc/EndRdx:50(48), P'ngTtl-Acc/EndRdx:50(48), P'ngTtl-EndRdx/Rchg/Slow:50(50), TmpRdns-EndRdx/Rchg/Slow:50(50)
Level 49: Conserve Power RechRdx-I:50(A)
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Level 1: Brawl Acc-I:50(A)
Level 1: Sprint HO:Micro(A), HO:Micro(43), Run-I:50(45), Clrty-Stlth:38(46)
Level 2: Rest Empty(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
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Set Bonus Totals:
+3.13% Defense(AoE)
+45% Enhancement(Accuracy)
+5% Enhancement(Heal)
+43.8% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
+4% Enhancement(Slow)
+90.4 (7.5%) HitPoints
+MezResist(Sleep) (Mag 2.75%)
+9% Recovery
+50% Regeneration
+1.58% Resistance(Fire)
+1.58% Resistance(Cold)
+3.13% Resistance(Negative)
+37.5% RunSpeed
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just had to say w00t for getting my rad/son def Hannibal. to 50 finally after 8months
Now to IO him and get dueling ^^ -
Spine/sr is uber in pvp !!
what i have done with mine is went for rech/regen
not at home atm so cant post my build for ya.
will do when i get home though
SJ is needed for pvp so ur not nerfed. even though ur sr and have great def still need movement, SJ has saved my [censored] so many times in wb it isnt funny.
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I was told evasion isnt needed. Blame Aranos if the build is all wrong
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i got evasion and its helped me a bit in pvp and its not really end heavy
if aranos told you he was probably think at it from a stalker point of view which gets 60%ish def to aoe from hide -
I might be able to come.. not sure about this though as my gf is quite spontanious
i have a few toons to pick from so just say which u would need and ill bring it, if i can
Chimeratech Overlord - fire / kin troller (no ID)
Stupid healer - ill / emp troller (no tp or rez)
Spine Stalker - spine / sr scrap
hannibal. - rad / son def (45) has tp and rez -
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I would love to give u a run for your money with my ill/rad
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hate ill
but if u want sure
Im on Onion but have test installed .. -
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The only 2 things a troller should be scared of in a duel is a rad/spi and an em/ stalker
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this isnt true
any gud build a troller should scared of really.
my spine/sr barely ever loses to trollers ...
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Show me that, I'll bring the troller
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k should be fun ^^
just send me a PM ingame to @SRM
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The only 2 things a troller should be scared of in a duel is a rad/spi and an em/ stalker
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this isnt true
any gud build a troller should scared of really.
my spine/sr barely ever loses to trollers ... -
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I <3 non insp arena fights with my troller.
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which troller? -
[sarcasm]no insps, no travel powers, no heals, no pets, no temps, no accolades. any of these things make a noob! [/sarcasm]
You are the better pvper imo for coming prepared to the zone, if u ahve um use um -
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yea if hes skipping melee I think he should go corr :/
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dont like corrs.. if i wanted debuffs i would role a def since the debuffs are greater.
want dom for uber holds with pb and dom. tired of those damn ice/em tanks -
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dom!
Ok, SRM_Chim, im gonna tell u 1 thing... If u think a dominator will be doin lot of dmg (even in domination), u r wrong.
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I never said this. Just dont like to get in melee range because of being squishy.
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So u shouldnt ignore ur melee attacks, they do nice dmg (almost the same as BiB), and specially GIS has a 64% chance to drop a toggle, btw... So, grabbing a power like GIS shouldnt be so bad, in fact, it does a lot of dmg and it can de-toggle enemies, all in 1 power...
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didnt know the big sword thingy detoggled. prob will get it because of the detoggle. -
thats what the holds are for :P
drop all their toggles.
Dont like the big sword anyways, had it on my ice/ice tank and hated it -
dont want leadership because the TK is pretty end heavy it seems on mids.
maybe if i can afford that much but atm i have grand total of 0 ifl on cov :P
Greater ice sword animation is too long for pvpalso trying to focus on all range powers so i dont have to get in melee range
CE is a nice slow just rather not have an extra toggle.
6 slots on CJ seems a bit much just for 12.5% rech. rhather slot 1 lotg rech and 2 jump so i dont have to constantly run SJ for decent vertical movement. -
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If u gonna leave Ice Sword unslotted, take levitate instead, it will works better in pvp, it gives u another ranged tool and it will work with 1 acc on it
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didnt think of that because of the animtion time on it. wasnt planning using ice sword just was grabbing a power to fill because its lvl 4
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After pvped a time with phase shift, i found that the activation time is sooo long that I usually died when i was in the middle of the animation. Also, if u are phased, u cant DOMINATE
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yea i thought about the animation time becasue i have it on my stalker just seemed like a nice add.
didnt think about PB+aid self. totally forgot about it. much better idea with med pool
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Overall, ur build isnt much of my style, i preefer playing it more like crazy... Anyways, im sure ull have lot of fun, so enjoy it.
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my first domi build so was looking at it with a troller/blaster point of view. -
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when you say pvp do you mean arena or zone?
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plan on using this build for wb mostely since i love wb
but being a squishy ill prob use it in arena alot as well.
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this build is for pvp
Go on destroy this noob build
only a few IOs slotted so i could get the basic idea behind the entire build
Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.21
http://www.honourableunited.org.uk/mhd.php
Level 50 Mutation Dominator
Primary Power Set: Mind Control
Secondary Power Set: Icy Assault
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Concealment
Ancillary Pool: Mu Mastery
Villain Profile:
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Level 1: Mesmerize
(A) Call of the Sandman - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 41
(3) Call of the Sandman - Accuracy/Endurance: Level 41
(25) Call of the Sandman - Accuracy/Sleep/Recharge: Level 20
(43) Call of the Sandman - Chance of Heal Self: Level 41
(43) Call of the Sandman - Endurance/Sleep: Level 41
(43) Accuracy IO: Level 50
Level 1: Ice Bolt
(A) Damage Increase IO: Level 50
(5) Damage Increase IO: Level 50
(9) Accuracy IO: Level 50
(21) Accuracy IO: Level 50
(40) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
(46) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 2: Dominate
(A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
(3) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
(5) Accuracy IO: Level 50
(7) Accuracy IO: Level 50
(37) Hold Duration IO: Level 50
(46) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 4: Ice Sword
(A) Empty
Level 6: Hurdle
(A) Jumping IO: Level 50
(7) Jumping IO: Level 50
Level 8: Combat Jumping
(A) Jumping IO: Level 50
(9) Jumping IO: Level 50
(50) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50
Level 10: Ice Blast
(A) Damage Increase IO: Level 50
(11) Damage Increase IO: Level 50
(11) Accuracy IO: Level 50
(15) Accuracy IO: Level 50
(34) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
(46) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 12: Telekinesis
(A) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
(13) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
(13) Range IO: Level 50
(33) Range IO: Level 50
(34) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
(34) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 14: Super Jump
(A) Jumping IO: Level 50
(15) Jumping IO: Level 50
(31) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 16: Hasten
(A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
(17) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
(17) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 18: Power Boost
(A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
(19) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
(19) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 20: Health
(A) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery: Level 50
(21) Miracle - +Recovery: Level 40
Level 22: Stamina
(A) Endurance Modification IO: Level 50
(23) Endurance Modification IO: Level 50
(23) Endurance Modification IO: Level 50
Level 24: Acrobatics
(A) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
(25) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 26: Terrify
(A) Accuracy IO: Level 50
(27) Accuracy IO: Level 50
(27) Fear Duration IO: Level 50
(36) Fear Duration IO: Level 50
(37) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
(37) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 28: Stealth
(A) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
(29) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
(29) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50
Level 30: Super Speed
(A) Run Speed IO: Level 50
(31) Run Speed IO: Level 50
(31) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 32: Invisibility
(A) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
(33) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
(33) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50
Level 35: Phase Shift
(A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
(36) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
(36) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 38: Bitter Ice Blast
(A) Damage Increase IO: Level 50
(39) Damage Increase IO: Level 50
(39) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
(39) Accuracy IO: Level 50
(40) Accuracy IO: Level 50
(40) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 41: Power Sink
(A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
(42) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
(42) Endurance Modification IO: Level 50
(42) Endurance Modification IO: Level 50
Level 44: Charged Armor
(A) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
(45) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
(45) Resist Damage IO: Level 50
(45) Resist Damage IO: Level 50
Level 47: Summon Mu Guardian
(A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
(48) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
(48) Healing IO: Level 50
(48) Healing IO: Level 50
(50) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 49: Swift
(A) Run Speed IO: Level 50
(50) Run Speed IO: Level 50
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Level 1: Brawl
(A) Empty
Level 1: Sprint
(A) Empty
Level 2: Rest
(A) Empty
Level 1: Domination
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Set Bonus Totals:
+2.25% Max Endurance
+28.8% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
+5% Enhancement(Sleep)
+22.6 (1.88%) HitPoints
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Also noticed you took stamina quite late in your build, not much exemping for TFs
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did all the TFs pre 38 :P
speced into that build at 50 for pvp.
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I'm not going to get a travel power really, just cant fit in with all the other stuff. Also, I wont be running tough, it's there just for the +3% def global bonus.
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didnt realize u put the def IO in tough :P
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Well, I could swap hurdle for health but I dont think I will have the inf for a miracle +recov or a numi +recov in ages. Besides, I got conserve and I can use blues. And anyways, I dont have FA.
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i got health with the the 2 uniques because i pvp alot. and took stamina so late so could fit in other powers for wb. and just assumed u had FA because thats a beautifull power imo :P -
I would try and get health in there somewhere so u can slot miracle + recov and numina +regen+recov
having a 50 spine/sr myself i found the end drain with fa and quils to pretty heavy... with miracle and numina uniques on health i have no end problems at all!
if u want to have /sr with no travel power i would suggest slotting sprint with 3run, quick 2 run, and swift 2 run, also 5 slots on elude with 3 rech/def HOs and 2 run IOs..
i have done this on my spine/sr and reach speed cap when eluded.
i would try and fit hasten in there somewhere.. my spine/sr only uses 3 attacks by the time the first attack is rech already. imo hasten is a must.
not sure about fighting pool. weave only gives very minimal def, if u want a bit of extra def i would just go with cj and get sj for a travel power. CJ gives about 3% def.. weave gives 8%ish... for pve the extra 5% wont really help u that much imo. esp not with the end drain on weave and running tough at same time.
Tried looking at this in pve point of view since my spine/sr is 80% pvp and full IO.
This is my build :
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.21
http://www.honourableunited.org.uk/mhd.php
Level 50 Mutation Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Spines
Secondary Power Set: Super Reflexes
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Medicine
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery
Hero Profile:
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Level 1: Lunge
(A) Empty
Level 1: Focused Fighting
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 38
(3) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance: Level 38
(5) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge: Level 38
(19) Luck of the Gambler - Defense: Level 38
(21) Gift of the Ancients - Run Speed +7.5%: Level 38
Level 2: Focused Senses
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 38
(3) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance: Level 38
(5) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge: Level 38
(19) Luck of the Gambler - Defense: Level 38
(21) Gift of the Ancients - Run Speed +7.5%: Level 38
Level 4: Agile
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 38
(13) Luck of the Gambler - Defense: Level 38
(13) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Recharge: Level 38
(23) Gift of the Ancients - Run Speed +7.5%: Level 38
Level 6: Build Up
(A) HamiO:Membrane Exposure
(7) HamiO:Membrane Exposure
(7) HamiO:Membrane Exposure
Level 8: Impale
(A) HamiO:Centriole Exposure
(9) HamiO:Centriole Exposure
(9) HamiO:Centriole Exposure
(34) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure
(34) Enfeebled Operation - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
(34) Trap of the Hunter - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
Level 10: Practiced Brawler
(A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
(11) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
(11) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 12: Combat Jumping
(A) Gift of the Ancients - Run Speed +7.5%: Level 38
(15) Kismet - Accuracy +6%: Level 30
(50) Defense Buff IO: Level 50
Level 14: Super Jump
(A) HamiO:Microfilament Exposure
(15) HamiO:Microfilament Exposure
Level 16: Dodge
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 38
(17) Luck of the Gambler - Defense: Level 38
(17) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Recharge: Level 38
(23) Gift of the Ancients - Run Speed +7.5%: Level 38
Level 18: Swift
(A) Run Speed IO: Level 50
(46) Run Speed IO: Level 50
Level 20: Quickness
(A) Run Speed IO: Level 50
(46) Run Speed IO: Level 50
Level 22: Stimulant
(A) Empty
Level 24: Aid Self
(A) Miracle - Heal: Level 38
(25) Miracle - Heal/Endurance: Level 38
(25) Miracle - Heal/Recharge: Level 38
(40) Miracle - Heal/Endurance/Recharge: Level 38
(40) Interrupt Reduction IO: Level 50
(40) Interrupt Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 26: Ripper
(A) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage: Level 38
(27) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Endurance: Level 38
(27) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Recharge: Level 38
(37) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 38
(37) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 38
(43) Accuracy IO: Level 50
Level 28: Hasten
(A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
(29) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
(29) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 30: Health
(A) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery: Level 38
(31) Miracle - +Recovery: Level 38
(31) Miracle - Heal: Level 38
(31) Regenerative Tissue - +Regeneration: Level 30
Level 32: Throw Spines
(A) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage: Level 38
(33) Positron's Blast - Damage/Endurance: Level 38
(33) Positron's Blast - Damage/Recharge: Level 38
(33) Positron's Blast - Damage/Range: Level 38
(37) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 38
(43) Accuracy IO: Level 50
Level 35: Evasion
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 38
(36) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance: Level 38
(36) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge: Level 38
(36) Luck of the Gambler - Defense: Level 38
Level 38: Elude
(A) HamiO:Membrane Exposure
(39) HamiO:Membrane Exposure
(39) HamiO:Membrane Exposure
(39) Run Speed IO: Level 50
(42) Run Speed IO: Level 50
Level 41: Stamina
(A) Endurance Modification IO: Level 50
(42) Endurance Modification IO: Level 50
(42) Endurance Modification IO: Level 50
Level 44: Focused Accuracy
(A) HamiO:Cytoskeleton Exposure
(45) HamiO:Cytoskeleton Exposure
(45) HamiO:Cytoskeleton Exposure
Level 47: Quills
(A) Tempered Readiness - Accuracy/Slow: Level 50
(48) Pacing of the Turtle - Accuracy/Slow: Level 50
(48) Tempered Readiness - Accuracy/Endurance: Level 50
(48) Pacing of the Turtle - Accuracy/Endurance: Level 50
(50) Pacing of the Turtle - Endurance/Recharge/Slow: Level 50
(50) Tempered Readiness - Endurance/Recharge/Slow: Level 50
Level 49: Conserve Power
(A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
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Level 1: Brawl
(A) Empty
Level 1: Sprint
(A) HamiO:Microfilament Exposure
(43) HamiO:Microfilament Exposure
(45) HamiO:Microfilament Exposure
(46) Celerity - +Stealth: Level 38
Level 2: Rest
(A) Empty
Level 1: Critical Hit
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Set Bonus Totals:
+3.13% Defense(AoE)
+45% Enhancement(Accuracy)
+5% Enhancement(Heal)
+43.8% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
+4% Enhancement(Slow)
+90.4 (7.5%) HitPoints
+MezResist(Sleep) (Mag 2.75%)
+9% Recovery
+50% Regeneration
+1.58% Resistance(Fire)
+1.58% Resistance(Cold)
+3.13% Resistance(Negative)
+37.5% RunSpeed
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doesnt matter what server your on ... auction house is a global thing, all of coh uses same AH on both eu and us and same goes for cov
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i have a 38 rad/son def but dont know what the best attack chain is to get the best -res ... my attacks are scream, shriek, shout, and screech.
i prob could figure it out on my own just im too lazy and tired atm
thnx in advance -
id take maneuvers for a few things ... lotg +rech, kismet +tohit, and karma kb res.. few more prob just cant remember what else