Rylas

That's outrageous! Truly outrageous!

Uhm, radiation isn't turned directly into electricity. It's used to create heat, which in turn creates steam from water. That steam is used to turn the turbines and so forth. They don't just hook a plug up to some uranium and turn on lights that way.

Radiation is completely different from electricity. Both have energy, that is to say, both create heat and exert force on other things, but they create their energy in uniquely different ways.

But we're getting off topic. There's nothing to say in-game that radiation can't interact with psionic energy. So there's nothing thematically wrong with a rad armor set having resistance to it.

You mean when you responded to me saying that I found Radiation Armor having more likelihood of resisting Psi than Crystals? I get the context. I'm telling you your answer had no weight.

Pretty sure at this point I'm just being trolled. But would you care to explain how 3 out of 9 power being similar is "Ela +1".

No matter it's origin, Negative Energy is still a form of energy. It ENERGY from darker origins. Energy created by Radiation is different from Electric Energy, or (just plain) Energy. It was created from different methods. So any effects Radiation has are completely up to the development team to decide and will not contradict anything established in the game. The only reason there is no precedence is because it's never been used before. There's no precedence to the counter, either.

You may prefer that there is, and you're completely able to, but the development team is completely able to say otherwise. With no precedence for anything, anyone can make up the rules as they see fit on the subject. The dev team, naturally, has a bit more authority in regards of what rules are made.

As for the business of Rad Armor being too much like Elec Armor, lets do a side-by-side comparison:

Rad armor vs Elec Armor
Smash, Lethal, Toxic resist - Smash, Lethal, Energy resist
Fire, Cold, Neg resist (maybe Energy?) - Fire, Cold, Energy, Neg
Mez and psi resist - Mez and Psi res, Rech resist, speed resist
Those three might be considered the same. If you like to stretch facts and ignore that most resist sets follow the same pattern.
Auto regen/end recovery (More recovery when health is high, more regen when health is low) - Click heal with regen and end discount.
Functionally, these aren't close enough to be the same. They're just the closest in my opinion between the sets.
Click absorb power - All new mechanic. Nothing to compare.
Taunt aura, foe minus damage - Taunt aura, damage
Nothing alike.
Click foe -HP self heal - Click heal, also the closest for comparison again. Also nothing alike.
Self nuke attack - Electric's self nuke. Ooooooh wait....
T9 meltdown mode ending with self destruct - God Mode with crash. God Mode powers aren't specific to Electric, and if they were, this one doesn't self destruct. So we'll call this a mismatch, too.

I don't see enough similarities to support your claim. Sorry.

I'm not sure what point you're trying to prove here. You're only pointing to a character, not really giving a reasoning why crystals would block psionic attacks.

Basically, you've just done a "because it's in comics" excuse. But you seem opposed to a "it's comic books" reasoning for Radiation Armor.

It's cool if you have an opinion and all, but at least don't contradict your reasoning behind it and insist that everyone else is hand-waving and wrong. Just don't play the set if it's offended you so much.

And if your argument is that Rad armor already has plenty of mitigation not to need Psi res, you should at least wait until numbers come out to make that claim. For all we know, those mitigation methods might be low.

As well as the precedence for other Energy Based sets to cover the psionic hole. Electric and Dark Armor. Different types of energy interact in different ways. It just so happens that Radiation based energies can resist psionic energy. There's nothing in the game that has ever said it can't, so there's no break in consistency.

To be honest, I find the concept of Rad Armor more likely to interact with Psi energy than Crystals (Stone Armor) having some capability to defend from it.

[edit] Just something to consider: Radiation, in real life, does cause mutation. What's to say someone who is mutated by radiation doesn't grow new neural pathways that help protect the mind from psionic attacks?

If we're going to balance ATs based solely off of utmost buffing possibilities, then the game as a whole will have to be reworked. Nothing Tanker specific about that broken point of view.

Who is Viola?


So a pizza with folded over pizza as the crust? Like Inception for Pizza?? I'm sold!

But if we're just going to see how crazy we can go with pizza crust, let's stop thinking so small. I propose the creation of a pizza with Chicken Fried Steak baked into the under crust, and Chicken Fingers baked into the outer crust. BUT WAIT! Make two of those at about the size of a hamburger bun, grill a beef patty and put it between the two, add some lettuce, tomato and bacon, and you can have the Chicken Fried Steak Chicken Finger Crust Pizza BLT Burger! CFSCFCPBLTB for short. For those who care to, you can add a fried egg on top of the beef. We'll just call that version "a la mode."

Hmm... 950 is roughly 73% of 1299. Brute survival numbers are 75% of Tanker's. So that seems pretty balanced to me. What's the complaint again?

Yes, unfortunately, I can't keep up with all the feedback threads. Good to know about this one.

Ah, my misunderstanding then. In that case, why not just change the crafted versions? That would be much less problematic than making changes to items that have already been bought.

Should it have been tested longer? Sure. But bugs get through the beta system. It's just a fact of any game. Crying "nerf" over a number fix is going overboard, though. While I don't agree with a lot of price points on the paragon market (see below), I don't think NC Soft is trying to bait and switch on us. It's not like they advertised it to be better than the in-game version.

(the see below section)
Am I the only one tired of seeing price points that are on par with a monthly subscription fee? I understand wanting things like Purple IOs being pricey for the sake of keeping them "rare" but 8 hours of double xp for the price of one month of VIP status?

Let's put the "micro" back in micro-transactions. I completely understand wanting to make money, since NC Soft is running a business after all. But I can't be the only one who understands that lower prices could actually garner higher revenue.

Think of it this way: McDonalds during the recession maintained more growth than Wendy's and Burger King while keeping prices down. It keeps the top spot because it's so affordable. One person buying a $15 item doesn't garner as much as 3 people buying the same item for $7.50.

/rant

Fixing a proc is not the same as nerfing it. Unless you truly think a purchased IO should have a stronger effect from it's in-game counterpart. In which case, there's no way to have a reasonable conversation.

I did? I brought those things up? Can you pull out some quotes in this thread where I started talking about damage before you?

The only "failure" you've really discussed is that Hybrid doesn't bring MOAR damage for tankers. It's a "buff damage" thread thinly veiled as a topic on Hybrid. If you're really going to talk about the shortcomings of Hybrid, I think the main focus should be pointing out that it doesn't bring much ability to add control or support. Those things would bring more "hybrid" potential to a tanker.

Considering there are plenty of tanker builds that can solo AVs (and in reasonable time), I really don't see how we need a Hybrid slot that brings even MOAR damage to such a survivable AT. Creating a Hybrid slot that only added more damage for tanks wouldn't really be "rounding them out" in the way the Hybrid slot seems to be intended.

No, it's rude to start a thread with the pretense of discussing one thing (hybrid slots) and then derailing it into yet another rant about giving tankers unbalanced levels of damage.

You do realize that with all the survival available to tanks now, the damage output you're always asking for would also get old quickly.

And for the love of beaten horses, could you just start a thread to move your soap box to, rather than turn every thread out there into a "making tankers unbalanced" thread? We all get it! You'll never shut up about it no matter how many times no one agrees with you. But threads about the Hybrid slot should stay centered on the hybrid slot. That goes for this one, and the other Hybrid slot threads. Thread-jacking every thread that you can tie the loosest tangent to doesn't do any good.

Oh, I'm aware they might be in a lose-lose situation on this. But hopefully we get some major tweaks at the least.

Sounds intriguing.