Reiraku
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Freedom
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I'm still the Champ of ERPvP.
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Where are these held at? I might have to drop in on one sometime.
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Neigh-raku
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Quote:I both agree and disagree with you. I do believe (and I wish I could find the Statesman quote from pre-i4 talking about the subject) that they had intended PvP to be involved with the game from the start, but that they also did nothing in terms of helping the broken systems involved with the combat mechanics to implement it. Not that they didn't want to and weren't planning on it, but rather that they simply weren't competent in their execution of the plan. Something that has remained true when it comes to PvP in this game since the beginning.Originally Posted by Arcanaville
PvP may have been a design intent of the alpha version of City of Heroes, but there is not even a hint of a trace of anyone involved in either the game mechanics or the powers system design thinking about PvP for even one millisecond in the release version of the game. Not only is there no evidence of someone designing things knowing they would one day have to deal with PvP, there is direct evidence all over the place of people doing things that even by extremely generous standards no one in their right minds would do if they knew PvP was coming - and I say that grading on a curve for what the devs were doing with the powers system that early.
They may have thought it was coming, but the devs acted, in the implementation of the game, like they were not obligated to avoid doing things that could severely impact it. So not only did they not design the game with PvP in mind, they actually designed it in a way to explicitly make PvP more difficult to implement.
Let's face it, PvP aside, the first year of this game had a lot of power decisions that today would make us look back and just shake our heads. -
Quote:PvP was actually a design intent early on in the game (WAY back when before they overhauled the powers system) but was put to the backburner to make a more advanced release date. The systems were still being developed both before and after launch until they were ready in Issue 4. Also, that was a bit before villains were added in Issue 6.Originally Posted by MaestroMavius
Wrong. 100%
This game was not designed to have PvP. Going so far as to tout the game as being PvP free when launched. This is why we have the utterly annoying PvP zone contact fedex's. When they decided to add PvP with the introduction of Villains they had to go out of their way to let us know it was optional. The players at the time didn't want PvP in 'their' playground and had to be assured they wouldn't have to participate.
Also why PvE and PvP rewards are kept seperate.
PvP was added over a year after the game launched. Issue 4 To be specific.
Therefor, I can say 100% that I didn't buy the game for PvP as it wasn't even an option at the time. In this game I've always viewed it as gravy, nice to have but not necessary. Was great fun before i13 gutted it though...
Edit to add: He know's it's spamming, he's just trying to kill the thread. -
Correct.
Anyone know if the Widow Indom Will still suppresses when mezzed? -
Is this anything like Base Raids being disabled until they could be fixed?
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Quote:If it was Doc A, then I'd have a great deal of confidence in the idea. That guy actually knew how to PvP and what made it fun.Originally Posted by Xanatos
I guarantee that the good suggestion will have come from Dr. Aeon. Aka a guy who used to RPVP on virtue and actually knows what players enjoy from their PVP experience.
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No Lee J Cobb?
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Regular PvP participation was at its highest during i7, according to Ex Libris. As of i10, she had posted that regular PvP population had dropped to just above ten percent of the total player population.
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Quote:This has been wrong every single time you've said it. It remains so today. If you are going to make an argument, at least do so without being a complete downy kid.Originally Posted by je_saist
Throughout the entire time that it is has been in-game, PvP play has never attracted more than single digit player percentages.
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cant bet it
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Oh hai Fixer
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Stalker resistance cap is 75%, not 85%
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Do the devs remember Hero Corp?
Pepperidge farm remembers. -
It does suppress with hide. I've never been a big CoF fan though. That power needs a bit more help before it's where it should be.
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All I know is my gut says "maybe"
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I'm Reiraku, and I support this message.
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What he's asking for isn't a suppression to the mechanical effect, just the cosmetic part of the power.
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Please remove PvP travel suppression and Heal Decay.
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It's almost non-existent in PvE, save for a few corner cases. DoT (I believe) counts as a separate attack notification, so that would alert the mobs. Also, the end drain from elec melee didn't get flagged for ignore at first, so that would always trigger it as well. I'm not sure if that's been changed yet or not.
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Nope