Quincy_Archer

I'm honestly hoping that the griefing will dial down once the griefers get bored with MA and it stops being so shiny. Well most anyway..... okay some..... a few?

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How do you reduce the number of Suggestion threads related to in-game email spam?!?!?

I actually find the suggestion threads more annoying than the in-game email spam!

Happy Birthday!

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They're not as bad as the "STOP FARMING /RAGEQUIT!!!!!11" threads.

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But also not as amusing.

I don't know... why would that same game have Romans?

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I make an arc that is essentially incompletable. Either using a bug to make the mission impossible to complete, or simply make a series of missions so absurdly hard and long that even the most devoted 1-star bandits won't bother with it. I keep the flag up almost all the time, EXCEPT I take it down for a few minutes every five days, letting my SG and global friends rate the arc 5-stars without needing to complete. I immediately put the flag back up afterwards.

Doing this, I can very easily (if slowly) climb the ranks with a permanently max-ranked arc. Regardless of it's content.

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And apparently thats perfectly allright as long as griefers don't hurt my feelings.

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If it really is impossible, they're not going to (hence, impossible), which means they can't inflate their rating.

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Republish story to easy as hell.... let them complete.... put it back to normal. Done and done.

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So how is that any better than a player who has only seen a portion of the arc being able to rate the arc in its entirety?

The other point that I have been consistently making and many people have been ignoring is that there would be a second factor that players would be able to incorporate. The number of attempts would be listed right next to the number of ratings. If the numbers are incredibly disparate, that's a warning right there.

If that's too complicated for you, think of it this way: there would be a second rating that simply records how many people who attempted the arc completed it. Looking at that gives you a pretty good estimate on how hard the arc is supposed to be.

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And thats not griefable at all? Oh wait. You just don't give a [censored] and would rather question my intelligence... which by the way is a great way to go about an argument. Really does wonders for your point.

And for all your talk of missing the point... you missed this.... arcs would STILL be highly rated and get the hall of fame and the goodies... even though they suck! But you just simply don't seem to care as long as your genius is protected.....

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They won't because the problems you mention already exist.

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No but your idea would.... exacerbate the problem! If it happens now? Someone will notice it and rate it lower. Your idea? All they can do is either complete and rate it lower (which I suspect few would do), quit, or hope a mod takes it down. But once again you seem to be (conveniently?) missing that point.

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That's my entire point. By making it so that ratings are exclusive to those who have completed the arc, people who artificially manipulate the ratings can't do so, which is good for the players

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If that's too complicated for you, think of it this way:

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If its too complicated for you: YES THEY STILL COULD! Your "solution" would only make things worse. If I want to lower your rating... now I just gotta stealth through the arc and zero-star it! Very short stories? zero starred in minutes. Short? A little Longer with everything else taking a bit more time.... but hey!

And on the otherside if I have an impossible [censored] story (a swear word before something is normally not good unless its followed by awesome or a positive adjective... fyi) which I republish to be easy and let my sg 5 star it... and then make it impossible would allow PERFECT 5's for something that doesn't deserve it as well as putting the player through crap so that your genius will get the proper recognition that you deserve.

"WAAH BUT QUINCY THEY WILL SEE THAT THERE ARE HIGH ATTEMPTS WITH FEW SUCESSES!!!"

And would that not be a form of griefing against legit arcs? Oh wait. It isn't. Because you said it wasn't. The way I'm seeing it is that you believe the attempts will stop griefers... but won't infringe on legit arcs..... which is funny because I'm pretty sure thats what the rating system is supposed to do.

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Is it more important to protect the rights of the player pre-selection or post-selection? Answer that definitively.

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Pre-selection. Players shouldn't have to suffer through the works of someone who thinks they are awesome soley to protect their ego. I don't need to see more then 10 minutes of an Uwe Boll film to know it is going to suck..... even though Boll feels that he is a genius and no-one "Understands where he is coming from" nor do I feel the need to sit through a whole movie of crap to give my proper opinion.

And while the whole "walking out" idea may work in real life... I can assure you that it doesn't online.

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Not being able to use the word "god" in reference to these limits our ability to write stories that tie into the CoH storyline.

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Too bad?

You do not have the right to offend those who believe that using the word in this situation is blasphemy any more that you have the right to yell "fire" in a crowded theater.

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Lol this reminds me of an Eminem song....

You find me offensive? I find you offensive
For finding me offensive
Hence if I should draw a line on any fences
If so to what extense if
Any, should I go? 'Cause it's getting expensive
Being on the other side of the courtroom on the defensive
They say that I cause extensive
Psychological nerve damage to the brain when I go to lengths this,
Far at other people's expenses
I say your all just too god damn sensitive
It's censorship
And it's down right blasphemous

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Unless it's got a high rating. If you saw 20000 attempts and 20 ratings, but it's still got a 5. That's a pretty good earmark that, hey, it might be a tough arc, but it's obviously a good one. It's still significantly better than the current system because now it's possible just to join and rate, which skews the system pretty heavily. There is no system involving ratings that is completely immune to griefing or exploitation.

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Now lets look at the flip side of you guys griefing sg argument. Lets say that someone's sg gives their arc 5 stars each when it is at said levels of impossibility (extreme av's, extreme ambushes, etc.) with a [censored] story to boot.... Unless the player finishes it by your idea there would be no way to lower the rating to what it rightly deserves. So the flip side of your argument is that it would still have high ratings.... but it would suck and people would think it would be good. Except that now they could lower the rating justly while you seem to be against that. The suggestion also allows me to essentially reedit my idea to w/e I want without literally any repercussions whatsoever short of people actually finishing it (and I'm sure I can make it pretty damn impossible) and rating it lowly or it getting taken down by the mods. But again you seem to be allright with that.

And no I don't want to protect the exploiters (what interpreted you of suggesting) rather I think that for the sake of most (ie: the non-griefers and the people playing the arcs) should have precedence over the few (the people who create the arcs).

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I didn't know they were transformers.

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They're more than meets the eye? O.o

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I'm not trying to be rude about this, so please, do not take offense, but......They don't give a dam what prime australian playing time is.

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I think they do care, but maintenance has to happen at SOME point. It's gonna be prime time for someone, and given that they are based in America, they have to do it at some point during the American work day.

OP, that sucks, and I sympathize, but I just don't see it changing.

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I agree with Aisynia that it is not an issue of them not caring, but that it has to happen. As I recall when this is brought up, it was looked at to when it should occur and the current schedule and server numbers point to the window we have now (Off hand, I don't see any direct posts to quote on this and they may be gone via the purges). And as Aisynia mentioned, no matter what time they pick, it will be prime time to some one, some where and it is not a perfect system, just an optimal one for NCSoft.

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Yup and since a majority of the game players are from the US, guess who gets precedence? Now I know, I happen to be a big fan of the satisfaction of the few (like what 20 people? ) trump the satisfaction of every other player. Sorry pal but thats the way the cookie crumbles.

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And if the arc proves to be impossible for me?

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Which is why they would add a separate enumerator for "attempts". If, when selecting the arc, you see a very bad ratio of attempts to ratings (~1:10), you'd be able to figure that, hey, this is a really hard arc. It also forces/encourages designers to make sure that the challenges are appropriate. If the arc is too hard, they won't get ratings. If it's bad, they won't get good ratings. That means that, in order to get a large number of good ratings (which is currently really easy), you've got to write a good arc that strike an appropriate balance of difficulty (which is part of what I consider when rating anyways).

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WAAAh! BUT THEN PEOPLE CAN JUST CLICK MY ARC AND QUIT AND THEY WOULD GRIEF ME THAT WAY!!!!!1111!!!! NOBODY WOULD PLAY AN ARC WITH 20000 ATTEMPTS AND 20 SUCESSES!

Don't mean to be super snarky (only midly snarky).... but the way I see it following your logic it would just be opening one can of worms to close another. People will just grief another way, so then someone else will come asking that we do something else to prevent them from being griefed that way.

For my second point: what Astra said.

And if the arc proves to be impossible for me?

I could say... put like put several EBs with extreme annoying powers set(sets that will pretty much screw over most builds) to ambush you every time you try to fight one.... and no-one would be able to rate my lowly for it until they completed it?

There was one arc I did where the author thought it would be fun if I had to fight an EB who would hit instant healing.... and then blackstar me.... since that was not my idea of fun I rated it down.... but your idea would make it impossible unless the author actually gave a damn about your feedback (and in a world full of griefing Sg's I don't think it would be hard to imagine an author like that).

Not that those holes really matter when you look at the duration and the fact that everything is mez resistance now.

I agree with the OP.... from what I understood the strengths of sleeps and immobilizes, fears, etc was the duration..... but in i13 pvp damage is king.... [censored] mezzing, buffs, and debuffs.

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No, I'm Wolverine! snnkt raw claw bub!

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*pulls out magnet* I win.

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I should add that, unlike CoH, GW is free to play, but CoH is still my favorite. Unfortunately, as I have been back to it for just a day, I'm finding some things different than I remember that are disappointing. Perhaps after this first month back, I'll still consider CoH to be the best, or perhaps....

Optiker

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Bum bum buuuuuummmmm

That said I barely want 1 ai npc on my side.... much less 2-6 more...... And how would xp be handled? And map loading? There is a whole bunch of problems....

and overall it is just easier to join your servers chat room-bar-thingie. If you use that you should have no trouble finding a team. You may also want to consider doing that and moving to freedum or catgi.... virtue.

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Keep to yourself!

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*goes into recluse*

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but why deny set bonuses to the few people who actually take (and possibly even use) those powers?

[/ QUOTE ] Because those people are different than everybody else. And being different is bad.

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Maybe it's everyone else that's different.

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Look.... I got an angry mob..... and they aren't the brightest bunch.... they never are really.... but anywho.... stop confusing them and tell them who is different so that they can a hate the different one(s) forever.

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Have my cream.

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o.O WHOA. NO! ...... NO!

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Flame on, yo!

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O.o A ghetto Human Torch?

I have a few suggestions that I would like to make. If you agree post, otherwise don't waste my time. kthnxbai.

[/b]Powers-wise[/b]

1) Remove Voltaic Sentinal from Intensive recharge Io sets.
This one is pretty obvious.... as it is completely and utterly pointless where it is now. It literally serves no purpose whatsoever other than having another to get some recharge.

2) Add Gun Drone to the recharge intensive Io list.
-Unlike #1 this power could actually benefit from this change.

3) Before I lose my train of thought it would be nice if Voltaic sentinal and Gun Drone could get a second weaker attack to chain through. I like Gun Drone but I think that a second attack would do it some good... VS too.

Everything else from here on out has to do with devices. I thought someone would like to know...

4) Gun Drone- please remove the interrupt time from this power? When it was stationary I could understand because it was supposed to be trap-ish but know? Since its whole purpose now is to follow you around I find it kinda of pointless. Though I can understand if people feel that it should stay the way it is.

5) Time bomb- I use it but I feel that this power could be more useful team wise if we reduced the wait time.... as of now combined it is 23 seconds.... how about giving it a 10 second timer till detonation with a 5 second interruptable set up putting the set up and time to detonation at 15 seconds.

Also I think a timer on the screen of the person using time bomb (or a countdown that only the user can hear) would be a nice QOL since anytime I use it I tend to forget how much time is left till it goes boom. I think with a timer it will allow precision attacks to be bit more accurate.

Mission Architect

1) Wasn't in beta so I don't know.... but I think that it would be nice if we were able to pick the background music for our missions. Nothing uploadable just access to whatever sound files the devs have with maybe a pay for it pack for new sounds.

2) Make Widows/Soldiers and Khelds powers unlockable for use in the MA creator. They prob plan to do this anyway.... but just in case...

3) Consider opening up the PPP's and the App's for 40+ content.

4) I think that it would be nice to have a complex system for the custom creator, and have more than two sets available. There should obviously be limits, but I thought it would be nice to have access to more than 2 powersets when creating custom villains/heroes.

If they were to do this my idea would consist of picking the "main" powerset for the custom npc and having to pick at least 4-5 powers from it before they could diverge into other sets. Make it so that they can not pick more than one buff/debuff or defensive set. This was really just a passing thought and if it isn't a horrible idea I will put a little more thought into it, though I'm open to suggestions as well.

5) Lastly create power packs (buyable through tickets) that unlocks powers that are available to npc groups and not us. This would probably go hand in hand with the "complex" custom builder.

So any thoughts? Concerns? Is it all completely idiotic?

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Yep, every issue someone will complain about something. Like you complaining about people complaining too much.
The irony is staggering.

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Is it not more ironic that every time someone complains about complaining, someone else will inevitably show up and chastise them about it? I mean that quite literally. I have not seen, not once, someone gripe about people complaining about everything and NOT had one of these posts put in response.

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Oh yeah?

Well you are complaining about a complainer complaining about someone complaining about the OP's complaint.

.... and I guess I'm complaining about you complaining about someone else's complaint about complainers complaining about the OP's complaint.

.... but then I guess someone else will complain about me complaining about your complaint which refered to someone complaining that someone else was complaining about the OP's complaint about having to walk.

And then someone will complain about him complaining about me complaining about your complaint that complainers complaining about someone complaining is ironic and that the complainer wasted his/her time complaining about someone complaining about the original complaint.

And after that another person will start complaining about the dude's complaint about someone complaining about my complaining of your complaint due to someone complaining about someone mocking someones complaint about complainers complaining alot like in the OP's original complaint.

And then....

.... I lost my train of thought... WHEN DOES THE MADNESS END?!

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i know sporks .. i'm a doctor !

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....... plastic surgeon?

ask for your 19 cents back. And it is up for every other server cept freedom... so ya....

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And I hope some of y'all aren't pilots or nothing... "What we have an engine down? But the other 3 are okay! So we are good to go!"

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You think I'd rather have me wanting to fly on 3 then you wanting to shut the other 3 off.

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Yup, don't do anything with machines if an important part is acting up. It will prob end up being more trouble than it is worth.

So the reparations are at 24 cents..... ouchie......

Well to be honest you prob shouldn't clear you life around a video game. I logged on earlier... couldn't get on... shrugged and went to class..... but then again I never got the whole appeal of YES IM THE FIRST PERSON ONLINE....... *sees 100 other people*.... [censored]! I'm still going to go to work later and I have class tmw so all that means for me is that I prob won't play till friday-sunday...

.... wait thats logical! d00000m! They is cheating us out of our money by doing this! I'm gonna do the math 4 reparations now.... there are 30 days in may and 24 hours a day..... so thats 720 hours...... we have lost.... I'm gonna say 10 hours? I don't know....don't really care.

But anywhoo at 15 a month max it is approx 2 cents an hour..... DEVS! I DEMAND 20 CENTS OR SO HELP ME!

Chillax ppl. It will be out when it comes out..... but I suppose some of y'all are server masters so you prob know better than me whats going on based off of..... 4 words? And I hope some of y'all aren't pilots or nothing... "What we have an engine down? But the other 3 are okay! So we are good to go!"