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I don't know why people are up in arms about it. A redname is having fun in the game that surrounds his job, and actively playing and joking around with other players. That's more interaction than I've ever seen in any other MMO, and I really enjoy it. =P
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I've never had this problem. The problem I have is going into the creator with a concept in mind, finding the costume didn't work as I hoped so changing a piece, and next thing I know ending up having a Technology origin character with robotic looking armour. Even if I was planning on a magic guy with a sword.
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Quote:It's not a poor product because they're selling what they are advertising. There is nothing missing, and they did not get your order wrong or break the powerset in any way, it was sold as advertised and there were ways to look into it to make damn sure it was what you wanted. Not the same at all.Originally Posted by Shubbie
Ive brought this up
Companies can not insulate themselves from poor product by just putting a buffer in there
If you went to a burger place and told you, you had to buy a gift card with points on it, then use the gift card to buy a burger.
you would sure as heck expect your money back if you found a rat;s tail in it.
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Quote:And that was false. People seriously need to read the thread before responding backing up someone with information that was proven to be absolutely false not only by several other players but also stated so by a red name.Originally Posted by CaptainBrawl
did you not read what he said dude? he said they nerfed it from when it was on beta IE he played it on BETA and when it came OUT they nerfed it and did NOT say anything about the nerf.....
Paragon has a refund policy- Send a message to customer service and ask for a refund stating why you feel you deserve one. It works when reasonable people state reasonable claims. Wal-Mart is not Paragon Studios. Wal-Mart is in fact a general shopping chain full of stuff developed by other companies. Everything Paragon Studios is selling is created by their developers and used in their game. Not the same at all, so they can not share a refund policy. -
Quote:I'a Cthulhu. I'a Dagon. I'a T3nt4cl3lipz69. F'tang.Originally Posted by TheSummerEvening
Wait, are you saying the Well is Nyarlathotep?
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Quote:Or the Space Cowboy/Scoundrel powersets.Originally Posted by Chris_Zuercher
Just checked the actual introduction, and the caption for that particular panel reads: "CAPTAIN: FOR GREAT JUSTICE." C'mon, people! Clearly the key word is "CAPTAIN", and thus we're getting a new pirate-themed costume set tomorrow.
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Quote:Armored Core. Was just playing it today. =POriginally Posted by Samuel_TowAs for movement powers, I actually really liked... I forget what game it was, but it had these big, heavy, bulky mechs that would go into a sort of super slide and travel around terrain VERY quickly and with great mobility. However, I think you have a point with flight and jumping. I just have to decide whether I want jump jets or whether I want sustained flight. If we had jet packs, this is where I'd definitely use one and solve the issue. Until then, we'll see, but I think Super Speed and Teleport are right out.
If you're going for something akin to that, Super Jump would be more like it than Flight would- In that game, you can certainly fly upward, but you can't hover. You go up and down constantly since it's just flaring jets and not a sustaining, stable level of energy designed exactly for the mass or weight of the unit it's lifting up. If the jet your character is using is designed for the character, then flight would make sense as it's built directly to move whatever it's powering. If it's more of a distributed, general tech, Super Jump would make more sense as it's just intended for fast movement without being able to perfectly balance out. -
Quote:I feel the same way- My niece is being taught letters by how they sound. Sometimes.Originally Posted by Prof_Radburn
Perhaps I'm just an old fashioned fogey but seeing the way my granddaughters are being taught with this "new phonetic" way of teaching, they are having trouble reading and spelling. So the fact you have 15 and 16 year olds having trouble with the simple stuff in life is no surprise.
Like the letter I. My niece is being taught to say that 'Ih', as in Italy. But what about Ideal? Or Isolate? Or Ironic? They don't start with that sound, so how is she meant to figure that out? It slows down learning progress, especially since by her age, I was reading things casually and she still has trouble reading words like imagine. It makes sense to me, knowing that, why so many younger people where I live can't construct sentences or words without constantly making mistakes I see as juvenile.
I always begin sentences in-game with capitalization purely because I was taught to write that way, and in-game chat to me is a form of writing. I only really hold that rule for myself though, like most parts of writing- If I can understand what somebody is saying after at most two seconds of thought, that's a pass in my book. If I get a message full of shorthand, misspellings and completely missing words crucial to understanding it, it'd take longer to decipher it than it would to lose my attention.Quote:Originally Posted by UberGuySee, to me that triggers that "this person is lazy/dumb" thing.
There's a threshold here that we all have. The OP's example "r u lft" conveys enough information that most of us understand what it means. (At least it does in an MMO context - someone outside gaming would probably be confused by "lft".) Everything that was omitted there is, strictly speaking, unnecessary. But everyone is going to have a threshold of tolerance for that sort of omission. Mine is above wanting capitalization and below wanting sentence-ending periods. -
Quote:Because they've always intended the VIP experience to be both the best deal and the most attractive option. Obviously, things are locked behind the VIP wall like Incarnates and Bases so someone can't just go Premium, buy everything in one lump sum and then not pay anything while having just as much access as VIPs. They need constant revenue.Originally Posted by Death_Badger
Paragon have received about 3 months subs a year from me for the last couple of years. I'd be paying that amount in bulk to open up the invention system. And the fact that I'd be able to access the game at any time would probably mean I'd buy every costume set and new powerset, like I have done in the past.
Yet people are having digs at me for wanting to be premium and saying I should think myself lucky? The game obviously needs more people paying more or it wouldn't have gone hybrid/f2p. Yet the little restrictions like this are deal breakers for some. There's zero reason I can see for premium players being unable to pay base upkeep. -
Quote:You can generally just press the previous button when it comes to designs to get the design specified for that piece. Same with most two-pattern parts like Stealth, Flak Jacket, things like that.Originally Posted by Montaugh
You can still make it have glowing eyes. Its a pattern effect just hit the reset symbol on the patterns and it will go to the glowing eye pattern. Sort of like how you can use it on the omega character peices to use the reset button to auto select the omega pattern for you.
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Sure there would- Have Synapse watching the gold medal to see who swipes it first. Obviously, they are the best ninja as they bypass the silly competition and take the prize while everybody is preoccupied.
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Quote:Though you can. It can help you get into the spirit of things. Though it can be uncomfortable in certain* cases.Originally Posted by ResidentBaka
(You don't really have to wear tights though, don't worry)
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Quote:I'm referring to the post I quoted stating that Controllers and Masterminds were not part of CoH and CoV respectively. I'm on the side of believing Incarnates are not a Going Rogue feature as they were never advertised as part of it, and Devs have specifically stated it was part of I19 and not Going Rogue, but the same can't be said of Controllers and Masterminds, which Terra Draconis seemed to be inferring was the case. They were advertised and directly linked to the game itself from launch of each respective title, thereby making them part of the game you were purchasing, whether it be the license to play it or not.Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
Yes it is true. We only buy a limited license to use the service content and software, it was not sold to us.
From the context of the post I was quoting, his statement was incorrect- Whereas Incarnates are not, from my point of view, part of the Going Rogue expansion, Controllers are directly a product of City of Heroes, and Masterminds are directly a product of City of Villains. -
Quote:That's not quite true- City of Heroes was sold with five archetypes, Controller being one of them. Similarly, even in the manual that came with my CoV box around launch, it details Masterminds quite clearly. They were both part of the games directly.Originally Posted by TerraDraconis
That is easy and the same exact point being made about Incarnates. At no point on those boxes or other sources are you explicitly told that you bought access to master minds and controllers.
The exact same thing applies to Incarnates. So since nothing ever explicitly sold you Incarnates, Master minds, or Controllers they can remove them from being free. -
Oh, I have no problem with putting the general consensus group to the test to prove their point as much as the minority, or the ones looking to change the status quo. It just causes better discussion and conversation to come out rather than 'we're right, you're wrong, there shall be no compromise.' I wouldn't have come up with that example if I wasn't looking for a scenario close enough to the present one by being conversationally challenged for one.
[Edit] Oh, and yes, making note of City of Villains coming part and parcel with City of Heroes when Going Rogue was released, eventually JtL came with the base game to subscribers as well, though it happened some time after the Kashyyyk expansion came out. Essentially the same deal there. -
Here's an example as close to this as I've been able to find-
A game about a galaxy far, far away which will be closing down in a few months had several expansions released. The first gave access to space, ships, systems, space combat, all that sort. All amazing stuff, with things people had been asking for for a long time. Going Rogue was released similarly, featuring side switching, new zones, a new faction, new content, things that had been asked for.
This Star Wars game then released more content later on for the planet Kashyyyk. However, at the time, you could not simply travel to Kashyyyk or get a shuttle ticket there. You had to fly there and land manually. Using your space ship.
In that way, that content was gated behind you having the Jump to Lightspeed expansion, but was not part of the expansion. It was a prerequisite.
Similarly here- Incarnate content was all launched AFTER Going Rogue was released, was never advertised as part of the expansion, was not listed in the FAQ, no information was directly linked to Going Rogue. It was I19 that it started with. A preview was intended, that's it, and that was removed before launch. It was a prerequisite to have Going Rogue before you could use the Incarnate content, but the Incarnate content did not come with Going Rogue. -
Quote:I got a Cockatoo. I regretted the choice immediately upon seeing the eagle going on sale. I could have gotten an eagle and a pigeon.Originally Posted by PlanetStar
I've got my Falcon. Didn't you get one?
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Quote:I've seen a commercial for insurance that indicated if I purchased from that particular competitor, I could also ride a merry-go-round at their store. If this is not true, is that the start of a case for an advertising authority? Not really. Similarly, I saw a trailer for a certain game based in a galaxy far, far away that showed a large scale battle in a temple. Does the game look like that? Is the combat like that? No, it doesn't represent the game at all except what factions are in it, and the general idea behind the era.Originally Posted by Forse
That -any- posters here, existing customers, are confused or felt mislead by the advert/trailer means that there is at least the start of a case for an advertising authority. It's up to people whether they make that complaint. Like I said, it's unlikely anything will happen without specific complaints to an authority.
This trailer isn't misrepresenting the game, it's taking dramatic and artistic license with the universe and doing things you can't do in-game for the sake of looking good. Hell, that's what most trailers show. In fact, the 'trailer' for the earlier Veteran Rewards showed characters walking, and we couldn't do that at the time. None of these 'complaints' are valid ideas for false advertising claims. All the trailer CLAIMS is that the game is going to be free to play, and that is true. -
Quote:Already mentioned a page back why I think they're quite different choices.Originally Posted by rsclark
In terms of what it says about your character, 1 and 2 are the same.
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Eh, leg is harder to break. Plus I can see it being a lot harder to get by with a broken leg than a broken arm. If you're going for more cruel and long lasting incapacitation- So, a villain who is both smarter and stronger while being very open to physical mutilation- Leg break works better. It gives different levels of 'evil' to the choices, and I enjoy that. I also like that in that mission, they don't DESCRIBE what you'd say to the agent to freak him out, you get to think of that yourself. =P
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Quote:1. Break his arm.Originally Posted by Eva Destruction
Those are two options.
2. Break his leg.
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Secret identity type, for sure. Mostly because I don't have much faith in humanity and think if I revealed who I was, various military groups would attempt to capture someone like that and dissect them to see if they can reproduce it for their armies. ;P
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If there is nothing gated behind a subscription that can't be bought with a one time purchase, there is absolutely no reason to have a subscription. You pay a big chunk, then you have everything you'd have if you payed monthly. Do you know what that means?
It means that Paragon Studios has a lot of money to develop the game with at the start, then has much, much less and no constant stream of revenue. Do you know what that means?
It means less development, less new gameplay mechanics, less content, and eventually, no game to complain about not wanting gated content in.
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Quote:You do have access to Praetorian Earth if you bought Going Rogue previously. And Allignment changes, and everything else involved. Incarnates were not advertised as part of Going Rogue, though you required the expansion to use them. You have access to everything from the expansion that was sold as part of the expansion.Originally Posted by Steampunkette
From here: http://na.cityofheroes.com/en/news/f...cho.php#tabs-2
From here: http://goingrogue.cityofheroes.com/e...-info/faq.html
I think that's the end of the thread. You should keep your expansion if you paid for it. If the Incarnate System is part of the Expansion, then so be it. But access to Praetorian Earth? Without question. Requiring a player to pay twice for the same content is flat out ridiculous.
And for those of who you tout the "Nearly" in the first statement it is negated by the word "Including". By putting that specific word into the statement they state that access to it will be retained. I hate that my first post on returning from a year long hiatus had to be about something so ridiculous as this argument. I do hope you all are satisfied.
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Quote:I did. I don't recall any advertising stating that Going Rogue would unlock Incarnate content. I know that they had statements at panels and cons that they'd attempt to get Alpha in for a sneak peak at the future Incarnate content, but there was never anything directly on the pre-order page that said anything about it to my memory.Originally Posted by Aquila_NA
I didn't pre-purchase, so didn't read the contents of the store description for the pre-purchase. Did you? CactusBrawler says that he DID.