PrincessDarkstar

I don't think Obsidian disputes that AlienOne has got a good expensive build or that he may be close to getting the very best out of human form, or that he is a skilled player.

I can't think of any 'primary' melee character in the game that doesn't have mez protection. But then PB's aren't primary melee toons, nor are they devoid of mez protection.

I have kept away from the tri-form/human only debate so far in this thread, because I do understand the appeal of human only, but that is a choice not to take the mez protection so why would the devs give you two forms of mez protection just because you don't like the one you have?

Incidentally Dwarf form has more inherant mez protection than any VEAT and I have only ever been held on Mothership raids by multiple EB's after I am left last man standing. Ignoring the fact that VEATs have so much handed to them on a plate they bore me to tears.

I missed this point - but yeah I also agree with you here.

Ah I never knew about the base protection, that makes more sense now, so it might be useful for a solo human only PB.

Less use in teams but then again as mentioned in teams you should have other options to avoid mezzes.

This.

It has been so long since I actually levelled my Warshade up I had put this to the back of my mind, but it is great advice if you don't mind using up the second build or a respec along the way to 50.

Early on you can put everything you have into Nova and it will be awesome (At level 6 you have an advantage over any blaster and that lasts for quite a while), with just a few slots in things like Gravity Well because Voids are the biggest problem at low levels.

Then in the mid to late 20's I did a respec to move a few slots out of Nova into human form powers, but I didn't give Dwarf form much love until the 40's. If you prefer Dwarf form you could move a lot of the slots from Nova to Dwarf, because it is very hard to be truly tri-form early on, and then still fairly hard later in life.

Haha I like that!

I didn't know the recharges off the top of my head and thought they were higher, so you are right it may be a bit overpowered having two clicky stuns.

Even with the arguing we have seen this idea has had pretty much universal support so it is probably the best hope we have

I don't know about crying out, Warshades still have Gravatic Emination on a fairly short recharge + Inky Aspect + Unchain Essence, I think another stun power may even it out a bit and if I understand it the power I was on about changing is Reform Essence which is the self heal on a long timer? As long as the long timer remains it will be the PB equivalent of Unchain Essence (Lower mag to balance out no dead body).

I never did understand why the PB rez didn't get those 10 seconds.

The idea for the stun stems from the fact that stun is something that PB's already do with a few powers, AoE healing isn't. It also brings them into line with Warshades and I think both AT's should be more similar (Do the same things in different ways)

I know they are both changes, so I see where you are coming from about contradictions

The lowest hit chance is 5%, no matter how much defence you have or -tohit you stack.

And the base chance for an even level minion is 50%, so you would need 4 Touch of Fears to floor that chance.

Anything like that though is probably asking for too much of a change, the devs are usually willing to tweak numbers, but rarely change what powers do.

I think the most likely thing you will get rather than adding heal aura's etc is that you might get a slight debuff or stun effect added to your powers. Reform Essence imho would be better with say a mag2 stun aura than a heal aura, then you could stack that with your other stuns.

That was pretty much the key for me, there are quite a few ways to play a Warshade and getting the balance between what is the most effective and what you enjoy playing is key - and only playing can bring you that knowledge.

I know myself that I still don't play as optimally as I would like, but playing in the way I think is optimal isn't easy.

I was thinking about saying something like this in my post but I honestly wasn't sure how much the +def sets were selling for, if they are cheap enough then you are right they are worth getting if you can.

Recharge is towards the higher end of the cost scale, but you dont necessarily need any of the very costly IO's like purple sets (Though I think purples help), so I still call it reasonable - I guess everyone has there own definition of that though.

Lol I don't drink either, I wonder what the chances of that were.

I think we are slowly heading towards the peaceful co-existance

People in the middle like you can only help both sides though.

I am glad you came back rather than being an actual troll, it is always much better to have proper conversations
Nobody will argue with you about the knockback, it is the reason I find myself discriminating against PB's at time.

The only problems PB's have in bringing the pain are that the human attacks are pretty much single target, and the ones that aren't have that dreaded KB so many people don't understand the damage they cause. Scrappers had a similar rep once (Good damage but why would you want one) until people started proving that scrappers can add more than just boss killing.

The other problem is that when going into Nova they don't get a great benefit from Build Up because of it's short duraction, so even then they are outdamaged by Warshades and again get a bad rep.

I don't personally feel these problems will be fixed by improving the utility powers, in fact I think they might get worse and people will completely forget about PB's as damage dealers and pick them for that utility only, which would be very bad.