PleaseRecycle

This actually reminds me of a TF I was on yesterday. Operative Renault, and the leader forgot to pass the star so we were running it at level 28 against level 30-32 enemies. My same staff/elec scrapper is a little squishier at level 28 before weave and maneuvers and all told we had 56 deaths on the TF, a mere 1120% as much as the 5 we'd set as the limit.

The last mission was so great, I'd actually totally forgotten how Renault went and was pleasantly surprised to see the giant cavern full of water spouts, coralax and AVs. We already had over 40 deaths at that point so we pretty much did what we did best: leapt into the middle of it and went to town. After the first few groups of coralax were down the whining began: "Who pulled all this stuff? Uhhh we're kind of dying here..." Gripes and grouses punctuated the rest of the battle, the team waking up and going back to dreamland as the herd thinned out and Calystix gave up the ghost.

Finally we were pretty much all alive against the eye of the leviathan, but its low health nuke took half the team down. The waterspouts were fully focused on us at that point and even had I been able to stay upright I don't have confront until like level 44. The eye's health was going down in approximate proportion to both my own and to the number of alive teammates remaining. Just as it's about to squish me I take it down, TF complete. The whiner accuses me of scrapperlocking, the rest of the team laughs at her, she leaves without another word.

Strike force complete, and it was the most fun that seven of us had that day (in city of heroes form at any rate).

Had he not gone on to talk about "the frustration of defeat" you might have a point. This is how these things get started around here.

Arcanaville already has this under control but I'll go where she won't: you want the game to be pointless easy mode. You argue for easy mode in any thread where it comes up. Every time the "simplify, simplify, simplify" crew gets its way the game becomes that much worse.

You know what, we've done this thread before. Where was your rigorous mathematical justification for your position then? I seem to have forgotten it.

Welp.

Personally I plan to take full advantage of this proc, hopefully to such effect that the devs notice how broken it is to be able to keep things permanently controlled while also doing farmy-damage to them.

I'll laugh really, really hard if the addition of this proc ends up being the straw that breaks the camel's back and forces nerfs to shockwave and foot stomp. Fingers crossed!

The fact remains that nobody has demonstrated in any way that staff is actually lacking at high level. You were replying to Cybernaut's bravely unfounded declaration that staff is simply obviously bad. He didn't prove it, you didn't prove it, Combat didn't prove it.

Look at all of those "ifs" you threw out there. How many of them are mutually exclusive in an actual build? Well, you were vague enough that it's hard to say, but what we can say is that there aren't any top end titan weapons builds that manage every single thing you accuse staff of not handling all at once. Every build has compromise of one sort or another. You cannot softcap all types on a resistance set, if you go with a defense set you don't get a damage aura, et cetera. My point is and has been that staff's widely varied abilities present different, not inferior, compromises than typical sets have in the past.

As one example, now that my scrapper is incarnated out I typically rely on form of the body because I typically don't need the extra endurance management. While exemplaring, or while engaged in a protracted AV fight, or any number of other actual things that I've actually done, endurance can become more of an issue and at that point I am one thumb button click away from infinite endurance mode. Titan weapons doesn't have that option and never will, yet recent history tells us that the devs will absolutely continue adding ever more esoteric challenges to the game. My staff/elec is pretty much ready to take all comers. Is your farmer?