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well my lv 8 brute can solo him, (ss/elec) so can my scrapper, but my warshade just doesnt have a hope in hell and never will, although im sure a pb has alot more of a chance.

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Ice/Ice is a very nice tanktrollerish combination in teams but anything but nice solo. Ice/ice sucks end like mad. Before stamina the toggles totally cancel out normal end recovery and even after stamina ice builds tend to be quite tight endurance-wise.
A friend and me circumvent this problem by him playing the ice tank and me playing my kinetic defender.

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ice tank end heavy? ahahahahahahaha, lv 26 energy absorbtion, slot it for rech and whatever, if you are in big teams, you will NEVER run out of end.

ill come up with one one day so shush!

i personally prefer resistance to defence, this is because with resistance you are continiously being hit (pretty much) and you can keep and eye on your health easier and react alot quicker, with defence sure you dont get hit, but when you do you need to react very fast, otherwise you have a team faceplant on your hands.

edit: saying all this i have a lv 35 ice/ice tank, and it rules

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well they have bitter freeze ray, which is like a wannabe snipe that does pitifull damage and holds them instead, yeah i hate that power considering freeze ray is better in general (apart from range), getting rid of when i spec.... (i have a lv 50 ice/ice/cold btw)

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True. I've seen an SR scrapper stand in the middle of a mob, without elude, and manage to only get hit 2 or 3 times. I've also seen the same SR scrapper jump into a mob on the same mission, and by sheer bad run of numbers, faceplant within 10 seconds.

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the bad thing about defence sets

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War mace was bearable when you could 5 slot the attacks for damage.. Now it isnt. Thats my main grife really.

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maybe i should rethink my lv10 invun/mace tank then

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funny enough i just built a new dm scrapper up to siphon life level last night, it seems its not the exactly the same power i had back way back when, the end cost isnt nearly as hideous as before, its still a pants heal mind you but im gonna work with it and see how it goes.

it is a shame that when you critical with it you dont critical heal yourself though, that'd make the power something special

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I maybe should clarify a little... I didn't mean it's a dreadful power (and it certainly benefitted from the End reduction that came along with ED) - just that it's almost completely redundant for a /regen who already has a truckload of better healing ability.

I took it early on my DM/SR and never regretted it - kept me in the fight many a time.

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thats nice to hear i started a DM/SR, and one of the ky points in me picking DM was because of the heal it already had

thanks dude, nah i dont mind TP i just thought that acrobatics would come in handy

GRATZ!

below is my current warshade build, it is a human only form, and only for PvE, any advice on slotting, powers to drop etc, would be great. (planning on respecing when i8 goes live)

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Name: oozyshade
Level: 36
Archetype: Warshade
Primary: Umbral Blast
Secondary: Umbral Aura
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01) --> Shadow Bolt==> Dmg(1) Dmg(3) Dmg(3) Acc(5) Acc(5) EndRdx(7)
01) --> Absorption==> DmgRes(1)
02) --> Ebon Eye==> Dmg(2) Dmg(7) Dmg(9) Acc(9) Acc(11) EndRdx(11)
04) --> Gravity Shield==> DmgRes(4) DmgRes(13) DmgRes(13) EndRdx(15)
06) --> Shadow Blast==> Dmg(6) Dmg(15) Dmg(17) Acc(17) Acc(19) EndRdx(19)
08) --> Hurdle==> Jump(8)
10) --> Penumbral Shield==> DmgRes(10) DmgRes(21) DmgRes(21) EndRdx(23)
12) --> Sunless Mire==> Rechg(12) Rechg(23) Rechg(25)
14) --> Health==> Heal(14) Heal(25)
16) --> Twilight Shield==> DmgRes(16) DmgRes(27) DmgRes(27) EndRdx(29)
18) --> Combat Jumping==> EndRdx(18)
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod(20) EndMod(29) EndMod(31)
22) --> Stygian Circle==> Rechg(22) Rechg(31)
24) --> Gravity Well==> Acc(24) Acc(31) Empty(33) Empty(33) Empty(33)
26) --> Hasten==> Rechg(26)
28) --> Inky Aspect==> EndRdx(28) Acc(34)
30) --> Super Jump==> Jump(30)
32) --> Dark Extraction==> Dmg(32) Dmg(34) Dmg(34) Acc(36) Rechg(36) Rechg(36)
35) --> Stygian Return==> Heal(35)
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01) --> Sprint==> Empty(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Empty(1)
01) --> Shadow Step==> Empty(1)
01) --> Dark Sustenance==> Empty(1)
10) --> Shadow Recall==> Empty(10)
02) --> Rest==> Empty(2)
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I think that a warning of attack might be a courtesy though.

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Oh yes. I can really see that happening.

Stalker: Excuse me, I hope you don't mind if I attack you.
Blaster: Oh no, that's no problem at all. *Pops 4 Lucks*

You already get a warning. It pops up when you enter the zone. That's all you need.

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lmao yes this would be ideal for pvp.

im in, oozygirl lv 50 ice/ice blaster, got that vanguard medal majig aswell for holds.

ive made 3 more tanks to go with my ice/ice(lv34), ive made a fire/fire(lv5), a stone/em(lv4) and a invun/mace(lv8)i was just wondering if you can give me any advice on what powers to get for any of my new tanks really, i just cant be bothered gimping one and having to respec. thanks guys.

yeha i still need to research the patron pools, ill have a look then tweak about with it a bit.

EDIT: i also need an up to date builder

my brute has got up to lv 14 on this build with pretty much no problems. comments please

EDIT: btw i will probably swap the recharges in my attacks for accuracy when i get hasten.

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Name: mimi
Level: 50
Archetype: Brute
Primary: Fiery Melee
Secondary: Fiery Aura
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01) --> Fire Sword==> Dmg(1) Dmg(3) Acc(3) EndRdx(13) Dmg(40) Rechg(40)
01) --> Fire Shield==> DmgRes(1) DmgRes(5) EndRdx(5)
02) --> Cremate==> Acc(2) Dmg(7) Dmg(7) EndRdx(19) Rechg(37) Dmg(42)
04) --> Healing Flames==> Rechg(4) Rechg(9) Rechg(9) Heal(11) Heal(11) Heal(13)
06) --> Build Up==> Rechg(6) Rechg(42) Rechg(42)
08) --> Incinerate==> Acc(8) Dmg(23) Dmg(23) EndRdx(37) Dmg(39) Rechg(40)
10) --> Hurdle==> Jump(10)
12) --> Combat Jumping==> DefBuf(12)
14) --> Health==> Heal(14) Heal(15) Heal(15)
16) --> Plasma Shield==> EndRdx(16) DmgRes(17) DmgRes(17) DmgRes(19)
18) --> Super Jump==> Jump(18)
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod(20) EndMod(21) EndMod(21)
22) --> Acrobatics==> EndRdx(22)
24) --> Consume==> Rechg(24) Rechg(25) Rechg(25) Acc(43) Dmg(43) Dmg(43)
26) --> Fire Sword Circle==> Dmg(26) Acc(27) Dmg(27) Dmg(29) EndRdx(29) Rechg(31)
28) --> Burn==> Rechg(28) Dmg(46) Dmg(48) Dmg(48) EndRdx(48) Rechg(50)
30) --> Blazing Aura==> Dmg(30) EndRdx(31) Acc(31) EndRdx(33) Dmg(34) Dmg(34)
32) --> Greater Fire Sword==> Dmg(32) Dmg(33) Acc(33) Dmg(34) EndRdx(36) Rechg(37)
35) --> Hasten==> Rechg(35) Rechg(36) Rechg(36)
38) --> Fiery Embrace==> Rechg(38) Rechg(39) Rechg(39)
41) --> Stimulant==> Rechg(41)
44) --> Aid Self==> IntRdx(44) IntRdx(45) IntRdx(45) Heal(45) Heal(46) Heal(46)
47) --> Rise of the Phoenix==> EndMod(47)
49) --> Temperature Protection==> DmgRes(49) DmgRes(50) DmgRes(50)
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01) --> Sprint==> Empty(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Empty(1)
01) --> Fury==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Empty(2)
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damn it i thought you wanted influence in exchange for infamy

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when you get your keld to around lv 30ish and all other AT's seem seriously overpowered in comparison, then you abandon it....

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well you got a point, im waiting for the respec i will get in my rewards, because ive messed up my ws soooo much, i just cant play it im such a fool!

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When you respec your WS you will perhaps notice one oddity: If you choose Nova and/or Dwarf as powers (and you really should do that) you can slot the forms´ powers (not the form, just their powers) not from level 6 or 20 respectively but from level 3. (I guess the game regards them as being inherent like Rest etc.) I was quite delighted with my brutally slotted double-miring Dark Nova at level 27 (just after my respec) and my PB will soon be quite an awesome dwarf at that level.

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ok i played on my full human ws today and, um its actually pretty damn good...... just thought id share that with you, so i may not need the respecs lol, im just looking forward to eclipse now

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Slot Swift for Fly speed instead of Run speed, obviously (yes, I know Sherksilver says you can't.

There might be a better place for the last three slots in Blizzard, or a better use than damage. Does Blizzard have a Slow component, and can it be enhanced?

I'm not convinced about the Concealment pool, in general - I'm not sure I've ever built a toon where there was nothing better to take than Stealth and Invis.

I'd slot the holds for Recharge instead of End Reduction.

There's no point in slotting Fly for End Reduction - even with End Reduction it still uses too much End to fight with it on, but the recent cost reduction means that even without Stamina you can leave it running forever.

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i see, so slot swift with flight enhancments, get rid of the end reduction in fly and chuck it somewhere else, um.... 3 slots in blizzard ill mess around with and yeah recharge in the holds does sound better. i took stealth and invis cos well, i got lost on what powers to pick in that area, but yeah kkep the advice coming folks oh yeah if anyone has advice on powers i could chose rather than stealth and invis that would be great.

EDIT: ok ive decided im ognna take the stimulant and aidself option rather than stealth and invis

right this is a PvE only build, and im pretty siure this build here is far from perfect, oozygirl is lv50 but she SUCK to put it politely, so im looking for all the advice on either of the sets i can get, and slotting etc would be great, ill have 2 shots at getting her right when the rewards come, so looks like ive got alot of time to plan, ok heres a build i came up with, bare in mind i will be using hover during combat, because fighting whilst flying is just plain cool oh and i want fly, because all of my characters have superjump to be honest, and so does oozygirl atm but i fancy a change, ok then, here we go :

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Name: oozygirl
Level: 50
Archetype: Blaster
Primary: Ice Blast
Secondary: Ice Manipulation
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01) --> Ice Bolt==> Dmg(1) Dmg(3) Dmg(5) Acc(9) Acc(11) EndRdx(15)
01) --> Chilblain==> Acc(1)
02) --> Ice Blast==> Dmg(2) Dmg(3) Dmg(5) Acc(11) Acc(13) EndRdx(17)
04) --> Frost Breath==> Dmg(4) Dmg(7) Dmg(7) Acc(13) Acc(15) EndRdx(17)
06) --> Aim==> Rechg(6) Rechg(34) Rechg(34)
08) --> Freeze Ray==> Acc(8) Acc(9) Hold(19) Hold(19) Hold(23) EndRdx(23)
10) --> Hover==> Fly(10) Fly(46) Fly(46)
12) --> Swift==> Run(12) Run(40) Run(40)
14) --> Fly==> Fly(14) Fly(36) Fly(36) EndRdx(48)
16) --> Build Up==> Rechg(16) Rechg(33) Rechg(34)
18) --> Health==> Heal(18) Heal(43) Heal(43)
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod(20) EndMod(21) EndMod(21)
22) --> Hasten==> Rechg(22) Rechg(29) Rechg(36)
24) --> Bitter Ice Blast==> Dmg(24) Dmg(25) Dmg(25) Acc(27) Acc(27) EndRdx(29)
26) --> Ice Patch==> Rechg(26)
28) --> Ice Storm==> Dmg(28) Dmg(37) Dmg(37) Acc(48)
30) --> Bitter Freeze Ray==> Hold(30) Hold(31) Hold(31) Acc(31) Acc(39) EndRdx(40)
32) --> Blizzard==> Dmg(32) Dmg(33) Dmg(33) Dmg(37) Dmg(39) Dmg(39)
35) --> Stealth==> EndRdx(35)
38) --> Invisibility==> EndRdx(38)
41) --> Snow Storm==> EndRdx(41) EndRdx(42) Slow(42) Slow(42) Slow(43) EndRdx(48)
44) --> Frozen Armor==> DefBuf(44) DefBuf(45) DefBuf(45) EndRdx(45) EndRdx(46)
47) --> Hibernate==> Rechg(47)
49) --> Chilling Embrace==> EndRdx(49) Slow(50) Slow(50) Slow(50)
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01) --> Sprint==> Run(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Dmg(1)
01) --> Defiance==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Rechg(2)
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please please please help me!!!!!

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rofl

happy birthday btw dude

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edit: o kthanks for your advice dude

lol i had brawl and frozen fists as my only 2 attacks for quite a while, icicles does pretty good damage though, ice patch is great from the ice secondary and adds to your survivability by a lot.

ok cheers dude, will do, and yeah i really wanted to go all ice anyway, its just that i wasnt too sure, but yeah, ill go for it now