Not_Epsilon

1. How much influence?
2. Why host the event during work hours on a work day?
3. I like numbers
4. Why a single origin damage enhance?
3. Will there be cookies?
2. Will you as host not be wearing pants?
1. I hate the number 7

Poopy, im'ma break it down for ya, k?

This is what the devs see roughly:
-PvE crowd doesn't want to pvp becuase supposedly "All that matters is build and IOs, and all the hard core pvpers will kill use" when in reality, they don't want to pvp simply cuz they don't enjoy it
-I13-15, the devs kill pvp to supposedly shift away power from hardcore pvpers (Fail)
-Now the devs have to get something that gets the pve crowd to pvp, EVEN if its jsut to farm, now they have to face the undeniable fact that, pve'rs aren't not pvping becuase there is no reward, they aren't pvping becuase they dont *Want to*

Its not a matter of the devs trying to award hard core pvpers etc, its a matter of the devs being in denial about I13s failure

Just roll one, i had both, but due to MYSELF, and the need for server slots, i chose to delete my WP, i just didn't enjoy it as much as /nin, i was very split as they both performed well

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You add incentives to entice the vast majority of your playerbase, who don't really care if the sub-game lives or dies.

if the incentives work, then new blood will try the sub game.

of these new players, some will LIKE the sub game and stick around.

So incentives that draw ideologically impure PvE losers to PvP help PvP become more viable.

The basic concept is a standard tactic in any capitalist society.
Do you live in Cuba, perchance?

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But it doesn't in practice now does it? In practice, PvErs were able to get their hands on PvP IOs without even PvPing. Then, there's no point from a PvP perspective if that happens. Hardly any new people showed up. PvErs may be happy with their new shiny, but PvP itself will still be under utilized and have messed up mechanics. Why bother helping PvErs who were never going to PvP anyways. Increasing drop rates will just mean more supply on WW for PvEs to buy, while still completely ignoring PvP.

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You have, single handedly, made me chug a bottle of asprin

By your logic i could very well say "North Dakota is a myth"

(No really, its a myth)

I do all my searching under "How Awesome Am I"


This also explains why my toons look like what they do

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Man I'm sad I missed this. I'd give up all my infamy/influence for an i12 pvp zone.

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Poopy, if you miss this, i want you to get glasses

THEY AREN'T TRYING TO FIX PVP


They made changes in I13-15 to make the pvp for carebears, now they have to GET these carebears to TRY the new pvp, now the carebears will hate it and go away, and yes prolly farm pvp ios, but who really cares?

THis is the same [censored] as pvp badge

"ZOMG THEY KNAT FRAM TEH PVP BADJE TEHY MUST EARN IT!!!"

/e facepalm

*Wonders if i should copy and paste entire other thread*

Asking here will generally lead to the same results, however, there will likely be a bigger and better response in favor of /WP, I'm just personally not a fan of it.

I don't like being designed to be hit on a stalker, whether thats the small amount of RP in me talking or some other factor, i just don't like being hit on a stalker.

I don't know guys, but i tink he just doesn't get it, when both PvE'rs and pvpers agree on something, its DOOOOM!!!! but when they both agree on said thing and he disagrees, its kinda lol@him

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I should call myself Noobtastic

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Thats reserved for Submission., tru storeh

Are you lord helmot?

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3 nuc's 3 procs, go go go!

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I changed that on my stalker a lil
1 nuc, 1 A/D PvP IO, 1 damage Hecatomb, then heca proc, pvp proc, and mako proc

but that slotting was awesome for a while for me

Maybe you should post some more screenies, that one of your team gettin shut out 14 to zip doesn't make it seem too far of a step tp have a 20 to zip score

K, please do, please slot KO blow for KB, then come, post pics, please, free me from boredom at work and a really bad interweb connection.

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I need to get something PL'd on Freedom. Killing the same four people over and over on Virtue is getting tedious.

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I tried to make a toon on freedom, only lowbie teams there decided that they were going to farm mitos...

15 min after entering the mish we had killed 1 mito, i cried and logged.

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1. I never inferred frost's PvP ability. It was frost that inferred my PvP ability in relation to his PvP ability.

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K, slightly true, slightly not, you made assumptions that he didn't pvp the same way you made them about me.


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If you were even an ioata of a PvPer, your effort would be on why PvPing itself is failing to be fun, not what loot you're unable to get.

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klol

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2. The points make crystal clear sense from a non-PvE perspective. You seem to think PvP somehow should work like PvE, but it doesn't.

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You're talking to a person who has pvped from the get-go, continues to pvp almost die-heartly and is very VERY numerically based, i work on what the numbers show.

I've gone for HOURS, more specifically, 0-227 rep in RV on freedom, on a 3 man team, none got pvp drops, and this was BEFORE the changes, you *CAN NOT* tell me that pvp drops needed anything in the remote REGION of a nerf, if anything, they needed a buff.

Kthx.

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Your right poopy, Frost wouldn't just wipe the floor with you, you would be traumatized


(Sounds like an arguement that never ends, becuase one party just.... doesn't.... get... it....)

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We haven't PvPed each other, so how would you know? Alright, so now that's out of the way, the ability the wipe other other on the floor is irrelevant to the topic being discussed.

I've clearly and logically laid out my points. If you want to blindly choose sides, go ahead.

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1. Any1 who can even infer that frost isn't a good pvper can't be very good him/herself

2. I've read your points, they just don't make any sense from any type of view except certain extremist views of Rewards

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OMG TRANSFORMERS IS AWESUM!

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Don't worry, you'll see all the parts worth reading in the quoted replies anyways.

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QFT



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When they're ignored, someone else replies and saves me the embarrassment of feeding the tr...iple chocolate ice cream!

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QFT

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(Sounds like an arguement that never ends, becuase one party just.... doesn't.... get... it....)

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That's why I put one party on ignore like 3 days ago....

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I normally have the mental restraint to do this without hitting the ignore button.

I don't like missing parts of conversations, even if they have a profound lack of logic, however, having poopy? attack Frost's pvp cred, first, made me fall over laughing, then made me respond

Build for +Dam +Acc, some +recharge and some +recovery/+max end doesn't hurt, you shouldn't have trouble capping out your HP

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Please stop attacking my integrity as a pvp'er. If you insist I'll go to the arena and wipe the floor with you. I've spent more time making suggestions of how to improve pvp in this game than you have probably spent pvp'ing.

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Ya, I highly doubt that you'll wipe the floor with anyone, so that has no impact on me. I'll continue to question you, since you seem to be approaching things solely from a PvEr perspective who just wants this new shiny for PvE.


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Your right poopy, Frost wouldn't just wipe the floor with you, you would be traumatized


(Sounds like an arguement that never ends, becuase one party just.... doesn't.... get... it....)

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Here is something I did...came up with my own ideas...how bad is it?

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Build is.. OK, slotting for the small +defence bonus's don't do much anymore.

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Also...with Assassins Shock...are the proc's REALLY worth it? I mean IDK...just wondering and I know the Hami's are stupid priced.

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Hamis are around 20 mil each? when i last bought them they were, the 3 put u at a pretty accuracy and damage stats, the procs simply add MORE damage, stalkers rely heavily on the AS ability, more u get into that first AS, the better off u are.

More seriously, go with

Elec or sonic/therm
Fire, sonic or rad / pain
Sonic and dark / colds still do alright
I've seen some decent dueling rad and sonic/darks

Here, its a little cheaper, confuse and sleep purples aren't sell your liver expensive

Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.401
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Level 50 Magic Stalker
Primary Power Set: Electrical Melee
Secondary Power Set: Ninjitsu
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Concealment
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery

Villain Profile:
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Level 1: Havoc Punch FtnHyp-Sleep(A), FtnHyp-Acc/Sleep/Rchg(33), FtnHyp-Sleep/Rchg(43), FtnHyp-Sleep/EndRdx(46), FtnHyp-Plct%(46)
Level 1: Hide LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), Ksmt-ToHit+(3), Krma-ResKB(5)
Level 2: Ninja Reflexes LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(3), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(15), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg(15), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(17), RedFtn-Def(17)
Level 4: Danger Sense LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(5), RedFtn-Def(11), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(11), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg(13), RedFtn-EndRdx(13)
Level 6: Assassin's Shock HO:Nucle(A), HO:Nucle(7), Mako-Dam%(7), T'Death-Dam%(9), P'ngS'Fest-Stun%(9), HO:Nucle(27)
Level 8: Build Up AdjTgt-ToHit(A), AdjTgt-Rchg(29), AdjTgt-ToHit/Rchg(31), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg(31), AdjTgt-EndRdx/Rchg(33)
Level 10: Hurdle Jump-I(A)
Level 12: Placate RechRdx-I(A)
Level 14: Health Heal-I(A)
Level 16: Kuji-In Rin RechRdx-I(A)
Level 18: Stealth RedFtn-Def(A), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(19), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(19), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg(29), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(31)
Level 20: Kuji-In Sha Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(A), Dct'dW-Heal(21), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(21), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(23), Dct'dW-Rchg(23), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(25)
Level 22: Invisibility Krma-ResKB(A)
Level 24: Hasten RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(25)
Level 26: Thunder Strike Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-%Dam(27), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(34), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), Erad-Dmg(34), Erad-%Dam(43)
Level 28: Super Speed Zephyr-ResKB(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(36)
Level 30: Combat Jumping Krma-ResKB(A)
Level 32: Stamina P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(33), P'Shift-End%(36), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(36), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(40)
Level 35: Blinding Powder CoPers-Conf(A), CoPers-Conf/EndRdx(37), CoPers-Conf/Rchg(37), CoPers-Acc/Conf/Rchg(37), CoPers-Conf%(43)
Level 38: Kuji-In Retsu GftotA-Def/EndRdx(A), GftotA-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(39), GftotA-Def/Rchg(39), GftotA-EndRdx/Rchg(39), LkGmblr-Rchg+(40), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg(40)
Level 41: Lightning Rod Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(42), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(42), Oblit-Dmg(42), Erad-Dmg/Rchg(46), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(50)
Level 44: Dark Blast Dev'n-Acc/Dmg(A), Dev'n-Dmg/EndRdx(45), Dev'n-Dmg/Rchg(45), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(45)
Level 47: Shadow Meld LkGmblr-Def/Rchg(A), LkGmblr-EndRdx/Rchg(48), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(48), LkGmblr-Rchg+(48), GftotA-Def/Rchg(50), GftotA-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(50)
Level 49: Phase Shift RechRdx-I(A)
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Level 1: Brawl Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint Clrty-Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest Empty(A)
Level 1: Assassination

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doesnt that strike you as retarded that the only thing doable with less then 20 mil is a regen scrapper and a fire brute or tank? or phase???

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Many things strike me like that these days, some of these are:

You only having 20 mil, i mean, firi lol

Devs make it this way, true doing well is relative, but IOs still come into play.

LoL...Devs