New Dawn

I don't care who takes it and who doesn't take it. It's actually in my own personal favour if I only see 1 in 8 Scrappers with it. 7 of them are only going to be pants with it anyway. It's just the same with Taunt on tankers, just because you have it doesn't mean a thing.

But what I do care about is having something taken from me.

Alot of damage in teams can be excess anyway. You don't apply the exact amount of damage to the amount of hitpoints left and between team mates sharing targets that gets a bit more so.

I am actually trying to be the real enemy in this thread.

One thing some of us Brits like to do is play the bad guy. I do so love playing Star Wars The Old Republic where most the baddies have strong British accents. You said I was the real enemy. I just playing up to it now XD.

I'll admit you are playing with fire here not thinking that a player with confront can dish out as good dps as you on any of your Scrappers or Stalkers. It's almost worthy of betting accounts on it. Confront doesnt have to get used in a DPS face off. My nephew farms with a Brute, with taunt and still lands stupidly godlike times. I could create anything I want in a single afternoon. Then take a couple of hours to Incarnate the snot out of it maybe still, in that, single afternoon.

I'm just having an unlucky day today, I took my dog to the vets, he's still there, gave blood and in driving home completely unaware of my speed probably got a speeding ticket. Dog at vets (concern) + giving blood not a good concoction.

Edited: Classic mistake of confusing Star Trek with Star Wars.

That worse case scenario is a fail you do know that? Do you not see the order in which the team mates fell? Sometimes its a case of one of the team mates being a Keystone in the team support being dropped after which the rest may follow. If you bought some time for that keystone the rest may of been alright.

This is where you failed, on the first attempt. Coming up with the Nuke arrangement on attempt whatever didn't save the team at all. You all sucked, got indebt and that was that.

Confront can prevent a team wipe, save someone who is at a distance and pretty much help make everything doable no matter what the team make up.

Let's say your taunt aura is the only thing keeping a cluster of mobs inside of a Rad defenders debuffs. The Rad defender isn't in there with you but there is one or two Critters going for it, range beats travel, one you might of used one range attack and the other you could use Confront. There are lots of circumstances.

All you've done is say something I have seen people say and yet disprove not only to me but themselves as a result ingame. Usually an attack may miss, actually even Scrappers on their tauntless Brutes don't tend to weigh up against their words either.

Some gauntleting + aura only Tankers prove their own limits to themselves eventually too.

I don't think it matters if most Scrappers don't take it or if some Scrappers don't take it. The typical Scrapper needs something that helps "him" and works for "him". Most never give a toot about the team except when it comes to people that he feels should be supporting "him" and at the end of the mission despite buffed Blasters doing most of the DPS, success was largely down to "him" as he is "pro" and all others are mere spectators to his "awesomesauce". Then he might log on to the forums to discuss what he can do so that the sycophantic lemmings can just go "wow". He certainly appreciates the adoration.

I've seen a lot of Scrappers talk a good game without confront but never really give one. I think it might be because I am not "him", so things aren't about me. It's a good game because what mattered to "him" is the only thing that counts.

How many scrappers can say that theyre not all "me,me,me"?

Blanket statements and actual truth do not tend to go together ever. You're not alone in making them, they happen almost all the time on these forums. No matter how many people might of told you in this thread that they have Confront alone you seem to ignore it and keep saying "no one takes it" which is a bit like "no one of importance cares for it". I do, and I find it fairly important as I am not someone playing a Scrapper just for the kills at all. It got your attention where all the people saying they had confront would not of. I might come across as talking bull myself but using swings and roundabouts there is some truth to it most often, most often because I do jump in and talk obvious crap when some joke thread is on.

The holy trinity is blurry here. Lets say I am going to tank Ghost Widow with say a Fire/Fire Scrapper for a team of Blappers (that's blasters who don't do range really) why shouldn't I be able to? They'll probably run out of endurance and have to go rest if they haven't got blues and stuff but that is not a worry really.

I am not a pleasant person. Do you read your statements. Can you guarantee that they are 100% true? Down in the Scrapper section Zyphoid atleast asked, the mere less than 1% of the player base that care to look in the Scrapper section.

I am annoyed with anyone trying to remove a power that I have never ever not had since March 2005. That's 7 years and in those 7 years there have been a few others who have taken it and still have it.

I don't mind Brutes getting Taunt, I don't mind Scrappers getting Confront, that would be silly as I do not roll Brutes without Taunt or Scrappers without Confront. I'll tank with all of them as and when required.

If I am teamed with a Tanker then being a Tanker player I should realise that they've logged on to tank so aside from bits here and there I do what most people consider Bruting or Scrapping. If he's Tanking and not doing too well then I can only put it down to inexperience and quite frankly I think most people have to gain experience to lose inexperience. I may or may not try to take complete control, I may just do what they should of done. It maybe that against a particular AV a type of Tanker isn't the best foot forward lacking completely in Psi def and all and my Dark Armour Brute or Scrapper can take some/most/all of the weight. Not necessarily full time but part of the time. If a Tankers worried they can ease up on their threat and allow me increase mine in order for me to bear things instead.

I don't live in a world where I never needed confront and am too stupid to realise all the times where someone that I have teamed with might of thought after being held or planted "If only she had confront" because I have always had confront.

It's bad enough that Brutes step onto the Tankers toes in terms of what Tankers are pretty much only good for without having Scrappers do the same.

I can't imagine you being better than others I am sorry.

No I didn't see what you did but add some Monty Python logic to things. People are complaining now that /MM is stand out ahead of everything else and that rather than all sets getting buffed to /MM level /MM will get nerfed. Three years and /MM hasn't been nerfed so not likely.

You mean here http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=200499 before Incarnates?

Silverado was defense, -regen and DPS. Everytime.

Come to think of it, if MM wasn't nerfed then why would it be now?

Given the average time of what most peoples Dark Extractions could survive for this could be closer to the truth and it maybe that they're still targetable and defeatable.

I am not sure if the Devs could put time behind making something essentially cooler rather than for balance purposes and without seeing how far PBs are behind WS ingame we could be in a dangerous loop of repeating ideas that will never happen. All I know is forum people do not make up much of the player base at all. I could log into anyones server and ask if people know so and so from the forums, in help channel and have no reply from anyone.

As someone farming with my PB, the KB is a bit welcomed and not too hindering *ducks*

If Rage only worked full strength on /SS powers this would be addressed. But Powers like Build Up work on powers outside their set too so complicated.

Unacceptable. Footstomp is fine.

I think you might be reasonably alone in your thinking, given a democratic society..

This, given past information that has possibly been lost to the archives, years before THBs join date, what is likely to happen is Mental Manipulation gets nerfed, then maybe every Blaster type recieves a shared buff.

I do think that alot of people don't care what Incarnates do. Unless you are soloing the Incarnate trial, it's gtfo the forums. I am personally not amazed. Everything is mathematical, as long as you know the numbers you don't always have to put it into practise, this doesn't always apply but it does apply to single targets exceedingly well.

Most people believe that the game is balanced around SOs, had an SO build done it then wow. Somethings that could of been done by a team of people on SOs, now have been done by a team of people with incarnates. It's a bit of a shame that what could of been done on SOs didn't get done but people are random in their thinking.

We'll never all agree on what is awesome. Just accept that some people are awesome to themselves in their own mind. This video served a purpose for Arcanaville asked for it but then Arcanaville could of worked it out mathematically and proved it. Still there is the theory and then there is the practical.

"Jack of all trades, master of none,
Certainly better than a master of one"

One of my Scrappers has Confront, Manuevers, Assault, Tactics and Vengeance and a solid attack chain.

Another of my Scrappers has Confront, Grant Cover.

Power pools have always been there. Confront has always been there. The rules that players must follow have never been there.