Nethergoat

Anyone who knows what they're talking about please consider yourselves exempted. =)


I'd have provided a detailed list of miscreants but such pronouncements draw the mods like Banished Pantheon to a drum circle.

The saturate the game with microtransations and they'll make us pay for anything good arguments have been around since the Wedding Pack. Neither has been borne out by the actions of the devs.

TY!

I'm getting a lot of enjoyment so far out of running the soccer idle while I marketeer. =D

My guess is this pack will turn a handsome profit.
In which case they do indeed "have an idea about the correct for this product".

Because they can come out with smaller, simpler narrowly targeted boosters much faster than they can larger ones like the Super Boosters that take more resources and need more testing.

If it's financially viable for them to release smaller boosters in between larger ones, that's more profit for them and more options for us.

How so? They're cheaper to make so they can still make a profit selling to a smaller slice of the playerbase.

If a super booster cost them 10,000 simoleans to make and they can earn 20,000 back, that's great. If a smaller booster costs them 5,000 simoleans and they can make 10,000 back, that's also great.

No they don't.
I mean, I purchased this one. So have other people. And some who want to purchase it are being stymied by the crummy NC Store (which is a real problem they should take much more seriously than some disgruntled forumgoers)

A lot of folk in this thread seem to be profoundly uninformed about how businesses work.

Let's be realistic here- they aren't "considering leaving" any more than anyone else that flips out over some insignificant change or minor perceived slight.

Some folk will just seize any excuse for empty forum grandstanding.

Say, has anyone seen Alt-O-Holic lately?


=P

Shhhhhhh, don't derail the witch hunt!

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the "bad precedent" as you call it was set by the original Wedding Pack.

In my opinion the game continuing to turn a profit and staying in business isn't "bad", but whatever.

CoH launched in 2004 with a monthly fee of $14.95.
Here we are five-ish years later and the monthly fee is......$14.95.

An optional pack now and then seems like a small intrusion.

okay, so, tonight try paying attention.

the problem with trying it here is the infinite, distributed supply.

As I noted, what *usually* happens is that supply will drown the efforts of one person to tame it and your price collapses. Or, supply is low enough that you can insert yourself in the supply chain without much fuss, just raising the 'floor' price a bit and reselling a bit below the 'going rate'.

This is the only time in my long career of Eebil that a recipe allowed me to create a microclimate via deletion.
Maybe because it's a rare? That might have kept supply down at a level one player could handle.

why does there have to be?
It's self evident that any pack containing a single 'thing' will reach a smaller audience than a pack containing multiple 'things' to broaden its appeal.

And emotes are a niche product by definition- an optional graphic that requires player activation. Costume bits are just there to look at, powers give you a reason to use them (well, ideally)...emotes are pure frosting on the cake.

While they'd obviously like it to sell well expecting it to deliver on the level of previous packs with inherently wider appeal would be wishful thinking of a profound sort.

I'm not seeing the relevance of this to my point.
Whatever they push they're going to push to the same audience- the playerbase. Advertising a new product to the playerbase isn't proof of anything, other than we're the only customers they've got.

If it included costume bits and powers I'd agree with you.
But it doesn't. The fact that they used the same promotional channels to reach their (only) pool of buyers doesn't make the Party Pack any more or less like the Mutant Pack or the Magic Pack.

It still represents an investment of resources that requires a profit to justify.
If they priced it 4.99 they'd move more units that pricing it 7.99, so why didn't they?

I presume they have a clear understanding of the demand ceiling for this product and priced it accordingly.

I'm not sure why you think it needs any.
If it cost them 10,000 Simoleans to make and they have a solid understanding of the number of likely buyers, that will inform their price point.

Widening the appeal increases costs.
If lowering the price would indeed 'maximize revenue' they'd do it- why wouldn't they?

I'm seeing it as an experiment to see if narrowly focused packs have an audience. If they wanted to go through the rigamarole of making a full pack, they'd have done it. There's a reason this one only has emotes and packs a seemingly outsized price tag.

This is true.
Hopefully they'll be able to filter something useful from the sludge of these threads.

they're testing the appeal of niche packs catering to small player demographics.

anyone interested in a base pack, or a PvP pack, or any other narrowly focused booster should be rooting for this one to succeed.

that too!

An all emote pack is clearly a specialty offering aimed at a smaller audience than the more broadly targeted super boosters. The most popular way to ensure a profit on an item with an intentionally limited audience is to charge a premium.

Comparing the Party Pack to previous boosters isn't a useful exercise as it isn't the same thing.

That said, if it's not worth the price to you, don't buy it. It isn't required.

no it wasn't.

flipping cheap stuff does provide an excellent education in basic market forces.

Huh....so, exactly what content in the base game would be impossible without IO slotting for your LRM?

The entire point of the invention system is to give performance options to players who are willing to invest some more time and effort into achieving better results with their characters.

LRM will work just fine with SOs (or generics, which is what I use on my ar/dev).

It's not.

You can do it on a small scale for a short period given low enough volume, but that's about it.

There's profit in flipping high volume stuff, but you'd probably get a better ROI vendoring junk recipes. It's a lot of effort for very little return.

I didn't realize you had such thin skin.
Next time I'll bring flowers.