Nalrok_AthZim
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Quote:Not at all; I'm sure Paragon wouldn't force anything on anyone. I'm just going on the platform of 'new security applied to the game.' If we ALL swapped to the key fobs, my previous post would be the basic rundown of what would need to happen.Originally Posted by Stormbird
If I'm reading this right, you're suggesting that the entire game would have to be reworked and the fobs would be forced on everyone. (Again, how I'm reading it.)
I can point to a certain game with glowy weapons that came out this month and say "no, it doesn't" to that. (As well as others - I don't *believe* the 80-billion-sub giant forces them on everyone, for instance, even though they're offered.) They tend to be optional.
Not that I'm arguing *for* them, by the way. I think they'd be highly annoying. I just wanted to point out (again, if I'm reading you right) that you're wrong in saying they'd have to be forced on everyone.
Of course, without that, you've got less of a base of income to pay them off with, too. (as well as paying for more support and the inevitable replacement.)
Keep in mind that even if the fobs WEREN'T mandatory, the only things that WOULDN'T happen from my previous post would be the re-packaging of the game (however, new copies of the game WOULD need to be produced so store-goers can buy the game with and without the fob, eliminating only the re-stock cost) and shipping the new fobs to existing players. That still leaves the REST of the things to do and still isn't a worthwhile move IMO.
Back in college I got to spend some time with the developer team at Blizzard (WoW) and the developer team from Mobius (EVE). To make a 9-hour Q&A session very short, the amount of work it takes to add a new feature to an MMO with more than one thousand subscribers is near-astronomical if your dev team isn't 'average size' or above.Quote:Originally Posted by Hyperstrike
Decent summary. One I was too lazy to go into.
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Quote:First, the company has to pay for the OTP (one-time-password) service. That can be anywhere from $1000 a year to $1000 a month to $1000 a week depending on just how many keys you need. Then, you can have each key fob custom designed to fit the CoX theme (anywhere from $20 to $30 to $40 per key fob depending on manufacturer and design used) or you could go blank for about $18 a key fob. Then you have to repackage the game with the fobs. This requires new packaging to indicate the new security (mostly in the System Requirements). Then you have to recall all previous versions. THEN you have to ship and stock the new boxed versions. THEN you have to ship new fobs to each player subscribed to your game.Originally Posted by Celestial_Lord
It can't be that much of a money pit. I currently subscribe to four MMOGs, including this one. Three of them offer authenticators. Two of them offer physical dongle authenticators. CoH is the only one that doesn't offer any kind of authenticator.
Physical authenticators aren't expensive... the most I've had to pay for one was $12, and that included shipping.
Please note that I didn't include the time, money and manpower it would take to integrate the new security measures into the game's databases and interface (this includes login/store screens, the NCsoft website (another deal to be made since NC owns Paragon), and server-client authentication handshaking). I also didn't include the myriad of customer support issues the current service reps would have to be trained on.
The cost can add up very, very rapidly. Unless you understand the processes and stages involved in making such a 'minor' addition to the game, and unless you've had first hand experience modifying a large-scale MMO, you can't ask for something like this and treat it like a minute issue. -
Oh man, that's actually not easy. You must play like I do.
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Quote:I don't find the human body gross. In fact, I think it's fantastic, especially when we come to the bodies of Christina Hendricks and Kat Dennings. (Hubba hubba.)Originally Posted by Golden Girl
If you find the human body gross, then you have issues
What I DO find gross is that you have a stash of 'anatomically-correct' ogres lying around your hard drive. -
Quote:Wait... why do I get the David Silverman face?Originally Posted by MoltenSlowa
[I]In reply to Nalrok_AthZim
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((I hear that. Unemployment took me out of the loop.))
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Quote:No. No it doesn't. Gross.Originally Posted by Golden Girl
If it makes you happier, all the base models I use are very accurate
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After two years of using an OTP key to authenticate my work, home, and MMO accounts, I can tell you that while it IS nice and IS secure, it's also a gargantuan PITA should the keys fall out of sync with the server. On one hand, you get added security. On the other, you get an increased potential for screw-ups that can literally lock you out of the game until someone fixes it.
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God-awful idea is god-awful. Leave my tankers alone.
Quote:Read the thread and cut back on the "I demand proof" argument. No one else should be responsible for explaining things to you if you can't read between the lines.Originally Posted by GATE-keeper
Can you provide a quote in which someone said that tanks should do more damage that stalkers, scrappers or brutes? -
Quote:Originally Posted by Beastyle
Just goes to show, you shouldn't take language for granite. For all intensive purposes, this thread should be taken with a grain assault.
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Quote:Ask and ye shall receive. I made sure to wear my Paragon Studios shirt to work today as a bonus proof-of-having.Originally Posted by Frigid_Ice_Queen
By the way, I'm still waiting for the custom sign from Nalrok_AthZim to prove his ownership of such a lovely item.
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Quote:Of course; it's my new backup drive. When I get home this afternoon I'll let you know the details.Originally Posted by CuppaManga
Do you still have the old hard drive around? Unfortunately Apple used 3 different hard drives during that period.
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I second this.
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Quote:Here it is in action. If you don't believe me I'll take a picture of it this afternoon holding a sign with whatever you want me to write on it for proof.Originally Posted by Frigid_Ice_Queen
Oh SNAP!
I want that mug!!
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Quote:Ive been further even more decided to use even go need to do look more as anyone can. Can you really be far even as decided half as much to use go wish for that?Originally Posted by TheDeepBlue
My guess is that when one really been far even as decided once to use even go want, it is then that he has really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like.
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I have one. My future mother-in-law used to be the EVP of Human Resources for NCSoft. Apparently Paragon loved her and just gave her a ton of free stuff, so I have several t-shirts (including the elusive Freem! shirt), two Arachnos glasses, a steel Arachnos coffee mug, the entire set of AT pins, the symbol-projecting pens, all of the HeroClix figurines...
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Quote:I had the standard 500GB drive that ships stock with all Macbook Pro 15" models. I can't remember the brand but it was the kind included in all 09-10 MBPro's.Originally Posted by CuppaManga
Now I'm curious - what kind of hard drive did you have before that? Because I have a Seagate Momentus XT Hybrid, which contains a small SSD, maybe that's why I don't crash much.
My upgrade was an OCZ Vertex 3 240GB SSD. -
This thread is ridiculous. It must be taken down for the good of the forums.
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Quote:Do you seriously think that content would be removed from the game after you finish it? Hell no. It's repeatable content. These are self-contained story arcs that the devs said WOULD bring change to the game. Surprise!Originally Posted by Ogi
Fifth Column: still around.
Rikti: still around.
Praetorians: still around.
Like the Rikti, 5th Column and Praetorians?Quote:Originally Posted by Ogi
Redside needs a threat unique to the RI
I have yet to receive assistance from any other villain save for Shock Treatment, who's probably doing it because she's wrong in the head to begin with.Quote:Originally Posted by Ogi
and in the arc no other villain cares to help, since you know, they're villains, they won't save their own skin if it saves someone else,
RI will not scream for help. Not once has the Isles risen up and said "Help, this stuff is too strong for us!" It's Paragon that's always said "WELL CRAP WE NEED THE HELP OF THE VILLAINS FOR THIS ONE."Quote:Originally Posted by Ogi
and when RI screams for help, PC whispers "no", and some redside zone is annihilated, GC style. -
Another MASSIVE word of praise for my own SSD:
Ever since I installed it, CoX hasn't crashed. Not once. Not even when I try to break it. -
Quote:Well, let's see here.Originally Posted by Ogi
When have the heroes made any permanent wins against villains? Thwarted villainy, yes. Actually won?
All the villains are still there and they don't even seem to have any skin in the SSA game, blueside can only lose it by even more now.
-Heroes win when they defeat the Fifth Column in Cimerora. Villains can aid the heroes in this victory.
-Heroes win when they defeat the Rikti. Villains can aid the heroes in this victory.
-Heroes win when they defeat the Praetorians. Villains can aid the heroes in this victory.
Villains win when.... they... help the heroes... win.
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Quote:No, not at all. I think you might need to reread that.Originally Posted by Ogi
In other words, all the heroes get for a victory is that things remain the same. Just what the villains got. Until now.
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Aha. I knew they were hacked, but I didn't know Faces was the culprit. Thanks guys! /thread
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Quote:Mkay. Is it down? Is it decommissioned? Is it on hiatus? Did gremlins crap on the server?Originally Posted by DumpleBerry
Yes.
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Quote:Did I call it a mass exodus?Originally Posted by Tyger42
There are perceived mass exoduses ( exodi? ) over any major change. I'm constantly seeing people screaming about them. If it was as bad as everyone perceived, the game would be a ghost town by now.