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Quote:Fair enough. It's not actual stealth, however, and that was what I was getting at. It won't affect aggro, as you said. I'm long winded.Originally Posted by Jade_Dragon
I'm sorry to do this, I disagree with je_saist for another reason, but that WAS, technically correct. According to CoD (and I'm pretty sure I have confirmed this myself) the stealth does not suppress in PvE.
Part of the problem is that there are several factors that "suppress" in a stealth power. The first and foremost is the Defense. CoD's Defense is 3.75%, and this does not suppress. It is always 3.75% as long as the power is on.
The other factor that suppresses is the stealth radius. On CoD, this stealth only suppresses when you click a glowie. It does not suppress on attack or when attacking. It does in PvP, which may be where you were unsure.
The important point, though, is whether stealth suppresses or not, it does not effect aggro. CoD does not have a Threat modifier of -1. Therefore you do not recieve less aggro when you have CoD up. It will only prevent you from getting aggro from entering a foe's visibility range, as I described above.
There is no reason not to have CoD up all the time, which as mentioned since it gives you 3.75% Defense, Immobilization protection, and a nice buff to your own visibility, is probably something you should do.
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Emberly, we probably just wasted our time. Je_Saist is damn good at posting lies and ignorance and never coming back to the thread because, and I quote,
Quote:Originally Posted by je_saist
I don't give any room for argument. I don't give any room for comeback. I don't give any wiggle room for not like that. -
Quote:Double edged sword, unfortunately. You have to have really trustworthy buddies in order to pull that off.Originally Posted by Silver Gale
See, here's the thing. Say you had an SGmate who was great to RP with and always came up with awesome plots. One day they come up with a plot involving a god or godlike figure. So in the course of trying to figure out what to do next your character goes "okay, maybe we could talk to this god and try to make a deal". And the other player goes "okay" and logs in a level 2 alt with Veteran wings and the Thunderhead aura.
Would you immediately go, "No way, I refuse to believe a god would be level 2, go PL this character to 50 and get them some Incarnate slots and then we'll talk"?
Conversely, I wouldn't RP with a character who is a perfectly normal human being who just happens to have really good informers, if this is used as a tool to intimidate me (like, say, "I know all your weaknesses, I know where you live, I know all your family members, I could ruin your life or have you killed with a single text.")
For me, it's not so much about the discrepancy between the story they're trying to sell me and their ingame stats, it's more about whether they're interested in a good story versus just posturing.
Then there are the level 6 demon princes running around screaming at you to bow to them and completely ignoring the fact that you're so out of their league it's laughable. -
Oh god, here we go. *headdesk* Rebuttal time!
Quote:While it doesn't turn off, the Stealth portion DOES suppress. Even with that screenie you posted, you'll notice your stealth radius is a flat zero. Cloak of Darkness is not a pure cloak, it is also your immobilize protection, a nice +Perception buff and a place to slot a -KB IO.Originally Posted by je_saist
Not really. Unlike other stealths, Cloak of Darkness doesn't turn off when taking damage.
You can also pair it with a mitigating primary. Energy Melee is a bit of an ugly duckling nowadays; paired with Mace/Dark/DB/SS/anything with mitigation, Dark will be significantly tougher.Quote:Originally Posted by je_saist
For starters, Dark Armor is a purely resistance set. Unless you spend a significant amount of change on IO's, this means every single attack will be hitting you.
Welcome to all Brute armors shared with Scrappers.Quote:Originally Posted by je_saist
You only have scrapper level resists.
Wrong. Unless you're reading your numbers with Tough active, Dark Armor will cap out S/L/F/C at roughly 35%, Energy at 24% and Negative at about 45%, and Psi at 56%. Tough and Weave greatly help, along with set bonuses.Quote:Originally Posted by je_saist
Oh, and Dark Armor's resists are low to begin with. All said and done, if you cap all of your resistances into ED, you'll only be pushing ~53% resistance to smashing / lethal damage, ~47.5% to negative engery, ~35.7 to fire and cold, ~23.8% to energy and toxic, and ~60% to Psionic.
Wrong. Scrappers have lower base HP than a Brute, unless you forgot to mention that you're comparing it to Tankers.Quote:Originally Posted by je_saist
On top of that, you have a lower base health as a brute, and even if you work away at the hp caps, you'll still struggle to break into the ~1900 / ~2000 hp mark even with accolades.
Cloak of Fear is not an armor. It's an offensive PBAoE toggle. It provides no self buff, and is not a tool to be used with a Brute as it will hinder Fury.Quote:Originally Posted by je_saist
Then there's your upper armors that you don't have yet. Cloak of fear, for example, yanks down .52 end per second unslotted. That's more than running both Dark Embrace and Murky Cloud, or the same as another Death Shroud.
Again, a Brute does not want OG. It hinders fury generation and is a general pain in the butt. Skip it.Quote:Originally Posted by je_saist
Oppressive Gloom Rant
You're using a rather crappy primary when it comes to mitigation; single-target stuns do not mitigation make. You're also choosing to run CoF and OG, two auras that will seriously screw up your aggro, Fury, and experience with Dark Armor.Quote:Originally Posted by je_saist
So, to recap.- You've got smashing / lethal resists that are pretty much on par with those all other archtypes could get in their Epic Pools.
- You use up endurance like it was a chew toy just on aura's, neverminding the 17end Dark Regeneration will chow through if you've got it capped into ED on end reduction
- You've got not-so-great attack mitigation that gets you out of a fight with minions, but will leave your team-mates hosed when those minions de-mez, and won't do anything against harder targets.
Stop right there and go talk to Dechs Kaison. Seriously. You're wrong. I can tank with the best of them on a sub-optimal build on my Dark/Dark Brute. I took on Holtz and the Honoree at the SAME TIME just last week and only needed to use Soul Transfer 3 times.Quote:Originally Posted by je_saist
Now, while all of these factors make Dark Armor a complete and total waste as a tanking set
Brutes came after Scrappers. Hur hur. Check your facts first.Quote:Originally Posted by je_saist
Something you have to remember is that the Dark Armor set is pretty much what give rise to the Stalker Archtype. The set is really best for hit and run tactics. It is not designed to sit in a fight and draw aggro.
Wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong.Quote:Originally Posted by je_saist
If you want a tanky brute, you'll need to pick a different armor set.
Dark Armor is a slow starter. Coupled with a non-mitigating primary, it can feel like a useless set. But when paired with a synergistic set it will feel better. When loaded with common IO's, it will feel great. When infused with Set IO's and a great Epic Pool, it will feel like you cannot be stopped.
Dark Armor characters need to be killed twice (at the very least) to be beaten, sometimes more if you have enough Recharge. Dark Regeneration is the BEST self-heal in the game when slotted properly (tips on slotting in my guide) and Dark Armor gives great resistance to uncommon damage types. Combine this set with Tough/Weave and Darkest Night from Soul Mastery and you'll have no problems taking on +1/x8 like I do.
You can tank with it. You can smash with it. You can use your MAGNITUDE THIRTY STUN to disable AV's.
Disregard je_saist's post, dearest OP. Try Dark Armor for yourself, read some guides, watch Dechs Kaison's Dark Armor Sucks video and witness the amazing feats this armor can perform. -
Quote:Originally Posted by Megajoule
(Heck, that's more or less what one of my characters always expected would someday happen to everyone taking bits of the Hamidon and sticking it in their own bodies... the players would have screamed bloody murder, of course, but it's perfectly in-genre.)
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Quote:It's your aggro mainstay; I would.Originally Posted by Arkadian_NA
Will review the guides tonight, many thanks! This is good news, added my build to the post before i saw these responses.
I will have to consider working Death Shroud in.....
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Quote:I've been using a combination of Seeker Drones and my Blue Targeting Drone pet to take alphas on my Traps/DP 'Fender.Originally Posted by SwellGuy
Sam,
I just want to point out there are a lot more than just the Shivans. I wasn't sure if you were using this as a blanket thing or you just meant only Shivans.
I discovered the Backup Radio is pretty helpful just this past weekend.
And for my villains I've always gone overboard with the Loa Bone and Summoning Amulet as well as the Grandville mad scientist's pets when I get those.
There's also the Warwolf whistle and the Katie Hannon pet to summon hero side and the Vanguard thing.
And my personal favorite is the vet buff pet. Not because the buffs help but because the enemies seem to target them first. I figure anything the enemy is attacking that isn't me is a good thing. -
It's suppressed when you attack. Go take a look at Dechs Kaison's Dark Armor Sucks guide.
Long story short, Death Shroud is your taunt aura. It has a taunt component. You can hold aggro just fine on a Dark Armor Brute so long as you have some accuracy from either set bonuses or slotted in to Death Shroud itself. I've never had Cloak of Darkness affect my ability to hold and maintain aggro. Just smash the hell out of everything and keep Death Shroud pumping.
If you want more to read, check out my guide (signature) as well. -
Quote:My other trolling thread aside (and mind you, the only trolling thread I've EVER made as I was having a good weekend and was quite cocky at the time of posting) where did I tell someone they were doing it wrong? I applauded the OP and watched people react unfavorably to a very reasonable post. Hell, a few replies have boiled down to "No, don't tell me what to do even if you're being polite."Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
Uhm...not really? All I've seen is people stating the reasons, pretty civilly, why they prefer solo and how the Devs, in the past, have made that a possibility that keeps everyone happy.
Oh, and people like your good self telling them, effectively, they are 'Doing it Wrong.' Which might just be why some people are getting snappy at all.
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Quote:Ugh, Mercs/Poison.Originally Posted by Emberly
Mercs is terrible, but Dark Miasma is good. Works out to being not bad. I haven't played mine since the pet AI got even worse than before, so I am not sure how she is now, but levelling mercs/dark wasn't as painful as mercs/FF or mercs/poison.
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Quote:Here's the thing: My big bad Demon main Nalrok Ath'Zim (forum namesake) started out as one of those really run-of-the-mill types. But I decided to redesign him at level 20 way back November of 2006 (he hit 50 February of '07). Never has he uttered the words 'foolish' or 'mortal' in the same sentence. In fact, I don't think he's ever said either of those words.Originally Posted by Rintera
My question to you: Do you RP your character as an incarnate now? did you add an interesting twist to it? or are you simply ignoring it?
He's not a Demon character that runs around flaunting how 'royal' he is, or how powerful he is. He's very aware of his surroundings and, rather than smash them apart, he chooses to observe. He enjoys conversation and would rather fight with his enemies than against them. When people say 'keep your friends close and your enemies closer' Nalrok takes it literally and does his best to mend bad blood with those against him in hopes they'll become his ally. If they won't, then he just does what any towering demon would do and smashes them flat.
That said, he's not the arrogant type. He has a very mild ego and is more like a mountain than a monsoon. When the Alpha Slot was unlocked to him and he completed Ramiel's arc, he didn't see it as "I'M GODLIKE SORT OF!" (If his ability in combat is any indicator, he's sort of at that point already!) He was with a friend at the time, an avian-ish Elec/Will Brute, and for a good while they talked of what this meant to both his future and hers. Currently, I'm RPing his unlocking of the Alpha Slot as new knowledge. Since I went with Cardiac Radial (and will be going Cardiac Core Paragon for that sweet sweet 45% end reduction), the 'knowledge' directly relates to the complete elimination of his endurance issues. Fight smarter, not harder.
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Guess no one has any pointers. I'm almost done with a very basic build; common IO's abound. I've been hearing that Arctic Air and Chilling Embrace are useless together but great on their own. Can I get any light on these powersets?
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Rolled up a new Elec/Nin last night.
Named him Hell of a Way to Go.
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Friend of mine took one to 50. Dude's a beast. Hard to kill, hard to see, great debuffs. I'd recommend it.
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Quote:Thank you for being first to figure out the intent of this thread in only one post; it took others several.Originally Posted by DaemonicVisions
I thank you OP for my amusement, and I thank you into knowing this whole thread was the intended idea to see others place down their frustrations about the situation, and expect "flamewars" to pursue.
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I love how this thread started as "You should team if you have problems, people who are having problems" and devolved into "I AM ENTITLED TO SOLO EVERYTHING, DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO, I AM DESERVING OF ALL THINGS I REQUEST!"
Sad. I'm going to go back to smashing apart Malta. -
Quote:Hit! Your Grammar Destruction power had a 95% chance to hit, you rolled a 42.Originally Posted by Mirai
Awl you're grammer our belong too me.
Critical! Your Grammar Destruction power hits Nalrok Ath'Zim for an additional NINE THOUSAAAAAAAND!
You have defeated Nalrok Ath'Zim.
You gain 10 experience and 42 infamy.
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Quote:Because they're right. :POriginally Posted by Satanic_Hamster
Those are worse then normal Nazis.
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Quote:"It's time to choose."Originally Posted by Tidbit Jr.
My favorite so far is Operative Jenkins as a reference to Leeroy Jenkins.
Also, the Going Rogue references to Half-Life; most notably, the Lambda Sector neighborhood of Neutropolis and Mr. G.
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Quote:Your reply is fail for many reasons. OP was not whining. He was telling people to swallow their pride and accept some freaking assistance when they can't solo with their ubermegasoloer.Originally Posted by Afterimage
Could you please whine a little harder? Add some tears too.
I had no trouble beating trapdoor, weakened honoree, minotaur etc. solo. Five times with scrapper, tanker, dominator, blaster, stalker.
I don't generally care if content is solo or team oriented. If teaming is required, I generally don't do it. Plenty of other things to do. But if teaming is required, then I shouldn't be allowed to take the mission. Task forces require teams, to start at least.
I don't hate teaming. I'm not opposed to teaming, I'm just terrible at teaming.
I have been trying to make myself team since I19 came out, because I would like to actually see these task forces that I cannot do solo. I don't need to do the task forces for Alpha slot boosts, I've gotten the first boost already on a scrapper playing solo. But I hoped that incarnate shards would be a good carrot to get me to try teaming.
I can't bring myself to ask. Maybe I'm shy like Mirai. Maybe it is something else. But when I try to make myself ask for a team, I start getting physical stress indicators. My chest tightens up and I start to sweat. I play games to relax, stress I got plenty of elsewhere.
I'm not incapable of teaming. Sometimes I'm asked. Sometimes I say yes. But when I do, I'm more stressed than when I play solo. It is always a relief when it breaks up.
So no, it isn't always OK to ask for help. No it really isn't. Not for everyone.
Get a large enough population and you get all kinds. People like you and people like me. We don't have to understand each other or agree on anything.
The developers don't have to build content around my limitations or yours. But if they make content that includes rather than content that excludes, then maybe they retain more customers.
Those are my reasons, they probably don't apply to most of the people who are trying to solo this stuff.
To GuyPerfect: Please tell me you play on Virtue, sir. I would like to shake your hand. -
Quote:"My Scythe; I like to keep it next to where my heart used to be..."Originally Posted by Starflier
That was an awesome game; only adventure game I ever really liked.
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Taze Bro.
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Quote:Don't most self-rezzes give a degree of untouchable?Originally Posted by Ironblade
No. It *IS* new. Everyone is pointing to a patch note that specifically refers to "NPC critters". It should be clear from my mention of PvP that I am talking about players.
And it was a stealth change, unless someone can point to a mention regarding targeting PLAYERS.
And it has not been in place for a few issues - more like a week. -
Tons more fun. My Cardiac Radial has seriously improved my main. No more end issues, much thicker resistances. Love it!
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Quote:You've never played Mercs OR Poison, have you?Originally Posted by Ironik
Wow, I think you actually meant that. Even without enhancements a Mastermind/Anything is better than 90% of the other ATs. Even my weakest MMs are like private armies curb-stomping 12-year-olds waving squirt guns.