MrLiberty

10 Shards gets you 5-10 threads.

12 shards gets you 3 common or 1 uncommon piece of salvage.

10 threads get you nothing.
20 Threads gets you 1 common piece of salvage.
60 Threads gets you an uncommon.
340 Threads + 100 Mil influence gets you 1 rare.
1360 Threads + 800 Mil influence gets you 1 very rare

GL getting 1,360 shards over 5 ish months (Assuming you can earn 10 shards a day every day) And that is just for the piece of rare salvage required for it. If you want to break down what you need total to get a tier 4.

You are looking at 15 Commons 2 uncommons, 2 Rares and 1 Very rare orrrrrr 2,460 shards to reach 1 tier 4 incarnate ability. (Plus 1.6 Billion influence). Of course this will take you a little over 8 months of playing 1 character every day. To slot out 1 of your incarnate slots.

Whats that? You want all four. I hope you didn't have any plans for the next 3 years if you are a solo player.

I heard there are amazing stalkers in RV who do just this end and up like 32-0 KDR over the course of an entire day.

I thought you were going after ST damage. Not just damage in general, that was my bad. :P
If you were going for ST damage then yeah Soul is going to be your best bet, thanks to gloom. For AoE Damage I think you are going to see a big difference between Soul Tentacles and electrifying fences. I think the first is on a narrow-ish (25%?) cone, while fences has a radius of 10 or so, so you can cast it point blank without jumping out to line it up.

Right, I was just correcting a blanket statement about tanks and always being outclassed in damage. Luckily, I also mentioned that rather than throwing purples at a build (7 Sets) in this case a WP/SS he'd be better off mixing survivability with a fluid high DPS attack chain. More recharge is not always better when you sacrifice other things to get it. Once you find your best attack chain, you figure out how much recharge you need and build around it.

You said "NEVER out DPS" that's simply not true. I was correcting that statement. I didn't build my tank for ST DPS at all (no gloom, only proc is in KoB, messy chain of Jab/haymaker/KoB and burn) , yet 50 other scrappers who were trying to solo a pylon ended up with slower times. It isn't about what "my tank" can do, its just stating that tanks don't automatically fall behind everyone else. I don't really care about the magical world where everyone has every IO they need and build for the sole purpose of maxing out their ST DPS. Dismissing tanks as low damage that will always fall behind other AT's is just blatantly false, as proven by the people who took the time to level the builds, IO them out, and post times of what they did.

That's great and all, really. Again in the land where everyone has every IO they need and build for ST DPS at the sacrifice of everything else, I'm sure they can. In City of Heroes, on whatever server. You might find a tank who out DPS's a scrapper or brute, you might find find a scrapper or brute who out DPS's that tank. As evidenced by the results where a Fire/Fire came in at 200 DPS, a Kat/Fire at 175, and another Fire/Fire 244. So I log in and find one who does more, one who does the same and one who does less. Hurrah?


To Blue Centurion - Looking at your build its chasing damage bonuses when you'd get more benefit from slotting Recharge + Procs and establishing a fluid attack chain.

I think something like this would give you exponentially better survivability with better ST DPS. | Copy & Paste this data into Mids' Hero Designer to view the build |
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ah, lolz in that case you guys cheated!!!!!! I'll be petitioning the remaining captain Dexington for a DQ by panel vote.

Actually, yes you can. Looking at the Rikti Pylon thread, there were 50 some scrappers who posted with DPS lower than my Fire/SS tank. (Who isn't built for ST DPS) So its very possible to out DPS certain sets.

As for the OP, if you are looking for max DPS, its not so much about how many purples you have, its how about how your build comes together, how many procs it has and how it manages to blend survivability, sustainability (end) and a fluid high damage attack chain out.

You listen here Crohan. This Sunday is about BFG trying desperately to get on our level. The best you can hope for in this very short season is going 1-1 with us. If by some miracle you manage to pull stuff together and squeeze out some talent from that mess you call a team you'll be at least equals with the greatness that is the dUmb roster.

Thank you for being honest.

Why does no one ever look at the two ties, the win before and the win after that match and think "Hey maybe there was something else going on, on dUmb's side" that caused that result.

Say, Firi trying to play from a hotel room internet and lagging like crazy, and Sir having a similar issue that kept him off near every target. Unfortunately at the time, those were the 8 we had on. Just sayin. The next round we were able to sit those two out for people who showed up late, but had stable connections.

I don't think the issue is we are afraid to fight anyone, ringers or not. Its just what is the point of calling it a playoff when teams are being absorbed, dropped, restructured, etc.

*Edit* Mebs is getting too slow at trolling.