Well sure, if you stack the deck so that you've got a capped number of mobs around you that don't do any mez attacks and regen fast enough that they survive for the whole battle for you to mire/eclipse off, but that's not *really* representative or normal play is it 
Oh, and that wasn't even level or even con (Unless they're Alpha slotted and hiding the buff icons, in which case they're just even-level; even-con would be White )
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I'm not going to lie, that's pretty damn impressive.
And I don't discount the added mobs. Scrappers pull in Rikti to help them saturate AAO and Soul Drain for pylon tests.
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Yeah, I'm impressed. Since I'm making a human-form warshade now, it's nice to see where I can potentially go with it. And adding extra danger to increase damage output is still soloing the AV. It's not like they summoned a shivan, warwolf, and other temp power pets to help. They did it all with a single damage source.
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Ok, sure, they're even-level. It's a level 51 AV, the Warshade has the Spiritual Core Paragon slotted so she's at 50+1. The mobs around her are all level 51 EBs (they would be AVs but I guess AE drops them down to EBs to prevent exploits or something) spamming Storm Kick over and over.|
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It definitely is a stacked deck in my favor, but considering I've never heard a Warshade or Kheldian of any flavor soloing an AV, I still think it's an accomplishment. It probably would not be possible without the saturated Mire, because damage output would be too low. Of course, considering I only need 10 mobs to saturate Mire and I had a full 16 around me, I was taking on more risk than I needed in order to fight (since I cap my resists with Eclipse at 6 mobs).
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I'm not going to lie, that's pretty damn impressive.
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It does have perma-Eclipse and soft capped S/L defense and pretty good Endurance recovery, but it's essentially shoe-horning a Warshade into the shoes of an Scrapper who doesn't take any mez protection and has no Debuff resistance. My normal play build, which gets to around 30% Defense, retains the perma-Eclipse, and still gets to play with all the Stuns, pets, and AoE blasts is much more fun.
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I'm not going to lie, that's pretty damn impressive.
And I don't discount the added mobs. Scrappers pull in Rikti to help them saturate AAO and Soul Drain for pylon tests. |
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GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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I don't know how you can call that solo, but yeah, bots/traps is stupid powerful.|
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I don't know how you can call that solo, but yeah, bots/traps is stupid powerful.
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And anyway, do you realise how often MM pets, especially Tier 1s, die? It ain't as easy as 'point and shoot' I tell ya...
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Wow.
And only using basically 3 attacks and NO stygian circle?
That was awesome.
Playing it at a slightly higher speed was a nice choice as well...
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Wow.
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3 attacks isn't anything special. My BS scrapper only uses 3 attacks when killing AVs, and lots of "optimal" attack chains do so as well. I've always known that Warshades did enough damage to kill an AV, I just could never get enough layered mitigation to do it. Warshades don't have enough HP to leverage the even 85% resistance against AVs, nor weather two back to back attacks when at the soft cap, and until recently the two were pretty much mutually exclusive.
Luckily I realized I could do both once I started working on getting her the Spiritual Alpha.
Unfortunately, I knew Stygian Circle would be worthless in the fight, because it requires dead bodies, which means I'm killing the things that keep my damage and mitigation at acceptable levels. Thankfully, Eclipse restores Endurance also. It's such an amazing power.
I actually also soloed Romulus Augustus (non-Nictus), but it was much more difficult because he debuffs defense on all his attacks, unlike Bobcat. So he'd hit me and I'd start taking a lot more damage, which meant I needed to stick Essence Drain into my chain more often, which lowers my DPS and increases my Endurance usage by quite a bit. On more than one occasion in the fight, I bottomed out on End and basically had to stop attacking until Eclipse recharged.
As for speeding it up, that's actually something I learned from watching EVE PvP videos, which tend to be sped up because real time is a lot more boring when you're watching as opposed to doing.
that was pretty epic, so the fight took 3.5 min in fast forward im guessing the actual fight lasted more along the lines of 20-30 min?
The video is at about 3x speed (it's somewhat over that) . The full fight took around 12 minutes or so.
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Definitely impressive, I can't think of a situation that could sustain it but I bet if you could get/keep 2 or 3 pets out there you'd shave some serious time off too.
I tried numerous things to achieve this; using a bunch of tricks to try and keep Stygian Circle and Dark Extraction in use included. I found I simply couldn't do it with the AE or any mission currently in the game.
If there was a way to set up continual ambushes such that 16 minions constantly were coming at me, then I could do it easily. Unfortunately, the AE limits the number of ambushes in a mission and when they spawn, so I can't set it up.
Plus, the Extracted Essences would be somewhat counter productive. There's no guaranteeing they'll fire at the AV and not the Buff Batteries. In fact, with 16 targets to choose from, chances are they'll fire exclusively at the Buff Batteries and only hit the AV with AoEs, which may not be often because I believe the pet AoEs have a 10 target cap. And it's likely that the Buff Batteries who aren't aggroed on me will go kill the Essences anyhow.
That said, if I could have out 3 Essences constantly that I was assured would fire on the AV exclusively and wouldn't get killed, I feel confident I could have killed Bobcat in half the time.
Yes. Yes they can.