Master-Blade

The mission is not to kill them under the bridge, but simply to kill them in the river. The trolls under the bridge as high level, it's true, so you are right, it's easier to pull lower level trolls into the river. I usually go south closer to the Skyway entrance for that though. They do not have to be pulled all the way to the bridge.

I agree with Ironblade. Besides the fact that they are not real challenges, they are not even Arcs either. The badges are supposed to be granted for doing Arcs with the challenges set. Stand-alone badge missions do not qualify.

I believe they are only available on the list to allow people to quickly get the badge missions they missed when leveling up, not to really be included in the series of arcs, which is why they are found at the bottom of the list in each section.

Villainside however, some of the badge missions are merged into longer story arcs, and those arcs may qualify for the challenge badges.. at least last time I ran Paragon of Vice (for example), it worked just fine.

Another message for the OP:
Challenge badges are not awarded upon completion of the last mission. You will get your merits and the results screen will appear, but you wont get the challenge badges until you talk to the contact again to close the arc. I've seen situations where people quit after the last mission and wonder why they never got the badges for being successful.

I agree with Ironblade and Snow Globe.

The current and correct Paragonwiki page shows the previous value. Even if it didn't, you could just as easily click on the "History" tab and view the previous version of the page that shows the former requirement.

For example:
ParagonWiki - Immortal Badge (Revision as of 02:14, 10 June 2009)

There is no reason to ever need the old website, and it should not be linked to under any circumstances.

It used to spawn at the level of the highest person on the team. If that person happened to be a lvl 50 helping out, then yes.. the foes would be very hard unless those people were EX'd before the start of the TF and never unEX'd the entire time. I remember several horror stories of that TF in the past as well.

That policy is outdated now with the SSK rules. It should spawn at the level of the person hosting the TF, then add that person's difficulty rating.

A team of "gimps" should still be able to take out a couple -1/+0* mobs within 3 minutes with plenty of time to spare. You don't realize how quickly a mob goes down until you have a timer sitting in front of you. haha. On top of that, the 4 and 6 minute wait for the final 2 waves is even worse.

*(I realize the -1 setting does not work on TFs, but some of the spawns on this trial are defaulted to -1 and even -2 at times, so even setting for +0 will give you a few really easy foes.)

On a side note, the most common reason for not getting the badge at the end is quitting before the end of the SF. Beating Reichsman is NOT the last mission. The SF is not complete until somebody visits Lord Recluse in the tower. We usually remind the team not to leave so everybody gets the badges correctly.

*I'm not saying this is what happened to you. I'm just offering advice to those who have not done it to make sure they wait.

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Here's the current version on the main page:

I just wanted to come back and clarify that it was Castle that has put in the change to have the hold protection reduced to only 10. That should make it relatively easy to overcome. Also, I hear the patch is already on the test server. As for when it'll come live.. we still don't know.

Well it is "fixed", in the sense that it is currently working as it was intended... but since it's now overpowered, they will be lowing the hold protection soon. I believe somebody said it will change from 50 to 12, but because of all the GR stuff going on, it might take a while for the change to finally hit the Live servers.

And Gratz to the OP's team!

Which is why I answered your original question as well. It's not like I didn't contribute anything at all to your thread. I answered and even agreed with you... mostly.

Right now, it's a full 3 minutes between each wave, and the last two are 4 and 6 minutes each. Even a gimped team still has to wait for the next spawn.

Now that the difficulty settings work again, we can just set the difficulty a little higher and try to fill in some of the extra time y fighting harder foes, but even that can get easy on an optimized team.

I can get behind your idea to "force" the next wave. Maybe instead of putting them on a fixed scale timer, make them appear 30 seconds after the previous wave is defeated. This would still allow for downtime inbetween to re-shield or rest, and let the users control when the next wave comes. That should accommodate ANY team makeup.

In the meantime, I actually have a little digital kitchen timer that I use to keep track of when the spawns are coming so I can inform the team how much time they have to go to the bathroom or get a drink inbetween waves. lol

Agreed. One of our Freedom teams was 3 Controllers, 2 Scrappers, 2 Blasters, and a Tank. It was barely enough, but it did work. Then again, at least one of them was Gravity with the Singularity pet, so maybe the pet counts as a 4th? lol

Want to help me write an official one? That could be fun. lol j.k

True enough. For the sake of speeding through specific arcs or TFs, and specifically with people you know, then I certainly agree. I was going by general PuG code of conduct. lol

Well, people have been asking for Villain access to the place for a long time, and I agree. It's a fun place, and would allow for more characters to go there. Besides.. if it did get revamped, people would complain that Devs hate Villains cause they didn't get the new content.. again. haha j.k

I have some Villains I would have loved to run in the Shadow Shard... but then again, GR kinda fixes that for me I guess.

I've noticed similar behavior even before i17 went live. The only part I feel is i17 specific is that we can still hear what's going on around us before the map finally switches over. I don't remember that before. It used to just keep us in silent limo at the title splasher until it changes to the splasher for the map we are entering.

It does feel like the first person entering the mission is waiting for the rest of the team before the mission is opened, but I think it's just that the process of creating the mission instance is just taking longer for some reason. Everybody else is simply catching up and getting stuck during the process as well, and when the instance is finally ready, everybody finishes zoning at the same time.

The reason I say this is because loading into an SG base does the same thing sometimes, even when solo. Mission and SG base instances do not even exist until they are populated. If somebody is already in the SG base, or I was in it very recently, it will load very fast, but if nobody has been there for a while, the instance has to be recreated, and it takes longer for me to zone into it.

Not for nothing, but since it's a team, it's usually common (or not so common) courtesy to wait for other people to arrive before completing objectives or defeating enemies (unless it's a door ambush) anyway... especially if you are not the team leader and/or it is not "your" mission. Otherwise people may miss out on Mission completion bonus, or even just the xp/inf involved in killing the enemies.

Some people argue they are not entitled to the points because they were not in the mission yet and didn't help kill the enemy or whatever, but as a team you should be helping each other get points, not remove enemies/objectives so they get less. If you wanted to solo the mish, then why even join a team?

There also used to be an entrance to RCS from Crey's Folley. That was closed off when it was changed to RWZ.

I'm not sure it was his network....
I was getting horrible rubberbanding ever since we finished the ITF. I was on KK's team as well, and my netgraph looked very similar. I'd click powers and they would not even queue and the chat was delayed about 5 seconds.

We had a good time. KK likes to torture us with Malta missions. haha At least I finished off my Leader badge on Tabby finally. Thanks KK for the invite! I hope we don't have a lag problem next time

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