Mandur12

*Shakes fist* KKKHHHHAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!

My vote is you suck at ebil. Having money is necessary. The ability to attain moar assets is also necessary. But unless you are also able to crush the little people under your bootheel, you phail. Until you find a way to prevent a casual gamer from purpling their warshade, you phail. And finally, until you can personally manipulate the market to the point that prices are a "SLAP IN THE FACE!" to people who don't play the game 24/7, you will continue to phail.

Generally that's a good thing, sure. But consistency shouldn't regress usability. You fit the tool to the job, not the job to the tool.

Those people didn't come in droves to the forums to complain about it. So while "never" is probably too strong a word, "significantly less" could be an understatement. (the good news is that lag seems to be getting cleaned up slowly, so hopefully that ceases to be a cause eventually)

Drilling down using the tree was the slow way to navigate the market. I only used the tree in the old interface when I was researching potential niches, which was like once a month maybe. Otherwise there were faster ways to get where you want if you knew what you were looking for. Not everyone uses the market in the same manner. The new interface makes some methods more cumbersome than they used to be (I'm looking at you Mr. Click-on-the-Recipe-Filter-and-it-Fills-the-Search-String-With-"Recipe" function), and the alternative methods to navigate are still not as fast as the old way.

About 5 minutes after I posted this I quit the game to desktop and reloaded. I was able to retrieve the recipe after about a minute of clicking the "get" button. The 2 weirdest things about the whole thing:
1) I executed (sometimes easily, sometimes with tedious, repetitive effort) other transactions where I stored, bought, sold, and retrieved items during this period. Not many....but maybe a dozen.
2) I was captivated by Comedy Central's broadcast of Ace Ventura: When Nature Calls the whole time while trying to claim my recipe.

The difficulties with what I was doing seemed to have cleared up a lot about 2 hours later. Things were sometimes tedious trying to get things to a from the market, but not nearly as bad as it was when I posted the above. I think I was most frustrated because I was doing a LOT of transactions (IO-ing my 'shade from scratch)

Also, I play on Virtue. Though some here report otherwise, I'm also beginning to wonder if that's a contributing factor in the problems I see.

No way, no how. I've now been trying to retrieve an eradication recipe off of the market for almost exactly a half hour now. No hyperbole. I'm still here, clicking on the button whenever it's available. Unacceptable.

It doesn't blow up the corpse like self destruct does. You can still target the corpse to rez.

edit2 to say:
Fallout isn't just damage. It also provides a substantial damage resistance debuff and tohit debuff. It can be, like vengeance, a team wipe mitigator.

There are definitely powers out there that imo are better to frankenslot rather than chase a set bonus. One of the prime examples I can think of offhand is siphon life. Since its buff it belongs in the DM attack chain, so it needs acc and damage, and enough recharge to fit in the chain. Don't forget endrdx, don't wanna run out of that. And for how much it comes up it's soo nice if you can get heal enhancement in there too. That's a lot to enhance, and 1, or even 2, sets just isn't enough. Parry and DA don't belong in an attack chain geared for damage, so you can skimp on several of those stats.... but I can see having similar goals for those.

Without getting in the way of whatever point you're trying to make, can you or someone else elaborate here?

But like Galactus, regular heroes have fought him before, and won*! C'mon devs, we need the big guy in the game!


* - from paragonwiki.com:

Inherent in my comment is a desire to see him in the game. He currently is not available to fight. Also, if he ever DOES make it into the game, my dm scrapper has something fo' his ace. Just sayin'

Yeah, if she doesn't think about hitting rage, /regen might not be for her. It takes some micromanagement.

All of the other sets available are less maintenance than regen. /dark and /fire are the other 2 that rely heavily on a single click power. The others are generally much more fire and forget (the mitigation clicks they have are on a longer cooldown than the one's I've mentioned). /Shield is popular, and along with the 3 you mention would provide good hands-off mitigation.

Possible I guess. But that's a lot of market fee infl lost to set a price that can't stick....

My disconnect:
Same price leads me to believe it came from the same person. The transaction cleared 5 times. 3x is over the inf cap. So someone had to buy, buy, get more inf (from email or the market), buy, buy, get more inf, buy. It can't be a persistent price bug thing when you have a bid up for 900,100,908 x 5. And finally, yeah. It's an insane price. x5. Just seems weird to me.

Do you agree with this statement wrt our market, then? "Increasing public information will broaden the gap between the casual and experienced market participants even further."

edit: It seems like you do. I think we're in agreement in that regard.... savvy participants will leverage more info and increase their ceilings. Whereas unsavvy participants won't leverage additional info, thus the floor remains unchanged.

Additional thoughts, tho: Does anything interesting happen in the middle of the range of participants with additional info that would be considered a boon?

By providing more information, but not transparent information, it just seems to me that the ones who benefit the most are *still* the ones who expend the effort to know the system. Am I missing something to think a system like this would allow me to spend less time researching for a larger profit?

I definitely agree, we need massive influence sinks, and I like those ideas.

Are the values for the items too high, or the cap too low? I agree that if the market can't facilitate all transactions then something is wrong, I'm just not sure what I would target for a change here. Like, if we had good enough influence sinks in the game then those values for those premium items would deflate, right?

As for my own thoughts:
1) Redside liquidity: Merge the markets. I know, already asked and answered. I wish I knew what the Very Bad Thing the devs forsee with this is. Would it be temporarily chaotic if implemented? Sure. Could blueside players be negatively impacted? Perhaps.... I don't think so, tho. Grrr, bugs me I don't have all the info on this one, heh.
2) Too much influence: We need influence sinks. We have too much, and it falls like rain. I fear with that bug about lvl 50 earning rates recently fixed, the devs tipped their hand a little on this one, tho.
3) Sub-max level set availability: Set IO level to the level of the roll. Might not impact many, but for those that don't see the value added for this *shrug* let the market decide. If there aren't any buyers at those levels, then there won't be any sellers. No harm, no foul.

Off topic: What screenshot elements would be required of a toon capped at 9 quintillion infl? An "I was willed this game account through fifty generations of marketeers on my mother's side" badge?

That IS one way to lower the price of highly desirable IOs! :P

Emphasis mine. I'm unsure how you interpret that from what Posi said. He doesn't mention the villain market at all, but states that a merged market is forecast to introduce "NEW" problems that they would like to try to avoid. Hence the market "fixes" in the works. Am I missing something?

Out of curiosity:
Is that 312M before or after you IO? Was that a completed build or 2-3 pieces of a "good" set in a power here and there when there were inexpensive pieces and filled with commons or other sets otherwise? How many merits did you end up with @ 50? Spend any time in AE that accumulated tix?

I'm just wondering....though I agree with your thesis completely, I think you might do something that I don't, or are a bit luckier. As a point of reference I'm a half bar from taking my dom to 50, and she has about 100m, and has ~250 merits, no sets, never marketed or farmed, and those numbers are more typical to my experience. That leaves me, roughly, with 250 mil from 1-50.

I could be so off base here, but I figured the fact that both the +res(all) and +def(all) IOs in the PvP sets being the same value informed us that the devs are much more comfortable nowadays with people having massive amounts of defense but not having massive amounts of DR, and why DR is so hard to come by in IO sets. Extreme defense, being subject to the random number generator, can outlast granite tanks at times, or be killed as fast as an /afk blaster, and the RNG is harder to game than a capped DR toon would be imo, and what I could imagine the opinion of the devs to be. Though Castle's response might be interpreted to contradict what I've always assumed about this subject.