MajorPrankster

You do the same and I will consider your opinions.

The 'facts' you have presented have been contradicted on many occasions about this topic and others.

You simply choose to ignore what you don't like.

You do not wish to have anything remotely resembling a discussion that comes to a conclusion, your only intent from my point of view is to keep arguing and ignoring anything you do not agree with in an effort to make yourself seem wise and influential.

No one here is under any onus to prove or justify their views of the reality of the game, any more than you are, but you are the one that continues to nit-pick and argue semantics and wild scenarios.

I find it to be sad, really. I hope you find things in the real world that bring you joy.

Sam, you hate everything that does not fall into your tiny little world view, just like far too many humans on this spinning rock, including anyone that cannot lighten the PANCAKE up about the PANCAKE thing.

As do your problems with blasters and pretty much every other complaint you have.

*shrug*

No.

What I am saying is that some people take the game far too seriously.

I have played with a friend of a friend who cried every time her character faceplanted. Real crying, tears and sobs on voice chat. Another would literally start yelling in a panic at each and every person that started taking damage. I mean, "OH NO! HEY RUN RUN RUN! YOU GOT HIT, RUN!" kind of crap, every single combat. Another who would try and make us wait before attacking every single spawn until BU and Aim were recharged so that he could ALWAYS perform the 'most effective' attack chain.

Thankfully, I don't have to put up with that crap anymore in my voice chat. In fact, those people won't even talk to me anymore because I had the audacity to ask them to stop telling me how to play and screaming in my ears.

I prefer to play with people that are just having fun, not focused on the minutia of the math behind the game all the time.

Topics of this nature that are little more than veiled attempts to play arm-chair developer by people spreading dissent and misinformation to promote their own agendas irritate me, so I speak up sometimes.

I cannot abide the rules-lawyers in here or in RL. They are a waste of resources IMO.

I often have more fun, and more laughs, from failing stuff.

The game is not srs b-ness.

I prefer team mates that are out to have fun rather than those who try to turn the game into a number crunching bore.

I think players not having patience or money is not the devs problem.

By hitting bad guys with it.

Not all of us play for the most 'effective' use of every power, every time.

Some of us play to laugh and have fun, to kill bad guys after a stressful day at work.

Sending the bad guys flying makes me laugh, it makes my friends laugh and it is pretty hard to argue that it is not in line with comic heroes.

So, it is very effective, IMO, every time I use it.

KB does not need to be changed any more than Defenders or Stalkers are obsolete.

Like so many things, if you don't like KB, don't use it and leave those teams that do use it if you just cannot stand it.

This merry-go-round about KB has never stopped and I doubt it ever will, because it is a matter of taste.

KB is FUN! It is sad, to me, that so many players seem to have forgotten how to have fun and play the game as if only the numbers matter.

Like the way I dislike people who think 'just because' is a valid response to anything to which they refuse to give critical thought?

I don't think it's the devs that need to check reality...

OK fine, Raid haters, whatever.

If while meaning Incarnate Raid Content and referring to it as Incarnates was too far out of your comfort zone, Oh Well.

If it makes me a fool and a troll to have not properly, in your opinion, stated my thought, again, Oh Well.

Yeesh.

While I think we are all a product of our delusions, as I subscribe to the Zen philosophy that everything we think is delusion, I must say, knowing that I will be the bad guy...

Pot. Kettle. Black.

As much as I am baffled by the posting perspective I created this topic to discuss, I am actually appalled at the constant stream of worthless posts you put forth under the guise of praising this game.

If you think for a moment that your view of how to play the game is the only right way, which is IMO exactly what you rant on and on about, you might want to more closely examine your own delusions.

GG, your posts IME have been far more damaging to this community than any of the constant nay-sayers.

I could not agree more.

A vibrant MMO, IME, must have a large variety of activities survive in the current marketplace.

If ALL of those activities required either extreme, be it solo or group, then I doubt it would survive.

I thank the developers for their hard work, everything they implement and I respect them for it, but that does not mean I agree with all of it, there is a difference.

Either extreme of always pro or always con helps no one.

My siggy was "A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." - Sir Winston Churchill, for a long time.

It cuts both ways.

This is more along the lines of what I was trying to spark the discussion to be about...thanks for posting it!

I am fascinated by the human brain, always have been. Since I spend so much time around gamers and computer geeks, they happen to be the segment of the population I have most experience with to contemplate how they tick.

Is the glass half full, half empty or is it at 50% capacity?

I am generally in the 50% capacity segment.

When a change is made to the game, I generally think little more than, "Look, that changed." When something is fixed, "Look that got fixed." When additions are made, I usually have a more 'positive' rather than 'passive' response, "Cool, I always wanted to make this AT with that power-set."

When I see a poster, of which there are, IMO, actually very few, that sees negative things with every change, fix or addition, it intrigues me that they can see so much negative in the same things.

IME, both of the extremes Oedipus_Tex mentions are also typically convinced that they are 'right' and everyone who disagrees is 'wrong', when again, IMO, the glass is still at 50% capacity, and there is no 'right' or 'wrong' just differing opinions.

As I mentioned in the OP, I was sure that this would mostly be attributed to players that actually love the game and it seems many agree with that.

I have asked many times, even on these boards, if I was even human, as opposed to perhaps vulcan. I have passion for a number of things, including this game.

I think the difference in how I react to the changes vs. someone who will always find the negative, is that generally, I have very desire to change the things around me. I tend to look at what 'is' and work within the boundaries I encounter to get what I desire.

The only complaints I have ever really had about the always negative posters is that they often will not stop and sully a number of topics with the same thing over and over and over, along with the fact that will often not accept a different viewpoint, at all, because they must be 'right'.

To end this long tirade, I will also add that one of the reasons I approach these games the way I do is because I had a friend who became so immersed in his passion for an MMO, he lost everything, his house, good paying high-level government job, everything. I have seen with my own eyes that becoming too attached to an MMO can ruin you.

Good points all around, thanks.

Still though, IMO, a rant here or there, by anyone, is normal.

It's the _constant_ negative refrain from posters that really baffles me. Really, if 80-90% of what someone posts is negative, for years at a time...I just don't get it. Most people, IME, calm down after a good rant or two, they don't just keep going on about it.

I am interested I guess in hearing about how some of these posters take on the rest of their lives. For instance, I knew a guy that had nerd rage about everything. I am not exaggerating when I say he did things like send a letter to the Mayor about every single pot-hole he found. Every single one.

That one specific question i guess I can pose. Do people who post negative feedback here for years at a time do the same things in RL?

I know by posting this I am derailing my own thread, but I would love to know what I said that was so horrible that got me on Sam's ignore list, because I certainly don't recall anything leading up to it other than disagreeing with him.

*shrug*

Morbid curiosity I guess...