MajorPrankster

Mu looks interesting. I could get the AoE and the pet. The pet holds a nice IO set, increasing defense to F/C/E/N. And as you mentioned, an extra power. It does lower my recharge though.

I'll definitely think on that, thanks.

Iggy is always on the mark.

Looked at that, but I would lose AoE potential as well...no Fireball or Dark cones.

Between the Dark cones and RttC, I don't get hit much anyways.

Been working at this idea for a while (using the Dark cones) and with the Incarnate end mod, I can spam my attacks pretty endlessly thus far.

This is why I do not want to lose any Global recharge if I can help it. I am trying to turn my MA into a decent AoE machine.

This right here sums it up nicely.

You choose to look for and thus find the negative.

I do not, nor do I wish to associate with those that do.

Enjoy your life, your way. I'll do the same, but that will include not interacting with you.

Later.

You are the one taking what I have typed in the wrong way, Sam. You are acting like some martyr with crap like this. There's your 'pot-shot'. I talk to everyone, I mean EVERYONE in the same way. My wife, my boss, you name it.

Obviously, you do not like the way I even communicate. I do not take any offense to that actually.

We are ALL delusional. EVERYTHING we THINK is DELUSION. See, all I was referring to was your state of mind, in a general fashion, with words I use everyday.

Yet, you CHOOSE to take it as a personal attack.

This is why communicating with you and people like you gets so old, so fast. You are just looking for a reason to get upset and not trying to learn anything.

You are determined that the developers and the forum posters that like the new End Game are all out to ruin your fun. Well, some posters are I am sure, but I am not.

Additionally, you continue to argue that the type of content we have now to use our Incarnate abilities against is all that will ever be added, TFs, without ANY proof. AT ALL. You are speculating and trying to cry wolf based upon that speculation.

This sort of discussion of 'what-if' can be fun, but not when you are doing nothing but projecting your negative 'future view' on it.

Then, in your negative-Nancy outlook, you turn around and tell the rest of us that are trying to help you and others get through the content, learn to maximize your strengths and embrace the many game systems you CHOOSE to ignore, that we are the bad guys for playing the game to it's fullest.

And you wonder why others get frustrated with YOU?

All I have been doing in this discussion is to open your mind, your outlook on the game and what it has to offer and all I get from you is wishful thinking about what things used to be from your PoV. Yet I am the bad guy?

Yeah, Happy Holidays.

There is nothing stuck behind the TFs. You can gain all your Incarnate powers without ever playing them.

You have decided to get bummed about what might be. I am tired of trying to fight your delusion.

Peace out.

A few things, Sam.

First, if you are half as emotionally involved in City as this post leads me to think, then you are a lot more emiotionally attached to City than I have ever been to a game.

While I get enjoying this game over others, espesicially MMOs, this is not my first or my last. When the run is over, it's over. I quit once for RL reasons and I one day I will walk away.

It will, however, take a whole lot more than some content added to the game that I don’t like or that my weaker characters cannot solo. Which it seems is your issue, other than worrying over what 'might be'.

Really, its just a game man.

And, since you are not playing 'seriously-seriously', why on earth are you carryiong on like this anyway? Really. Let it go man...relax.

I feel the same way, including all the Incarnate content.

I am also not telling you to 'shape up or ship out'. What I am trying to do is be a realist about, you know, reality. Sometimes, things change. Sometimes, they change enough that you don't like them anymore. This is simple reality, Sam.

I see more people playing all parts of the game I play, on the same server you do I think, as I play exclusively on Pinnacle. There more TFs and regular teams than I have seen forming in quite some time.

The community is not changing. It's the same people, many of whom have been begging for the kind of content that has been added. These are the same ones that have been telling the complainers to take time to learn the new additions.

What has changed is that now parts of the game are harder. That's it. The PERCEPTION of forums goers such as yourself is the community is changing because many on the community are happy with things some hate. See, nothing has changed in the community, it's ALWAYS been this way.

As for the 'forum community' in general, I simply bring up the fact that it reflects a tiny minority of the players, as you well know. Personally, I would play the game MORE if the entire forum got shut-down. The forums are the only place I hear negative things about the game.

As an addendum, not wanting to listen to people complain may well be belittling opinions. However, I am not the one trying to force the developers in any particular direction other than where they want to go. If not wanting to hear incessant complaints about the game is belittling to the complainers, then I am HAPPY to belittle them. The complainers of whom I speak care not for my PoV, why on Earth should I care to do anything other than belittle theirs?

First off, most this post, although sprinkled with facts, if full of hyperbole and wild speculation.

As far as the shameful comment, that smacks of personal issues like self-esteem to me. If one cannot read an Internet message board without feeling personal shame, I really think one might want to take a step back. Just because someone shares triumphs and makes suggestions about how others can do the same is NOT automatically belittling them, even if the reader of the advice thinks it might be, it's called constructive criticism. While there are rude and belittling people posting, lumping everyone that gives advice on a problem into group like that is quite rude in and of itself.

The rest of your complaint, that you have harped upon in oh so many threads, is more speculation that anything, Sam. We DO NOT KNOW what content the future will bring. Making the assumption that it is going to be more of the same does not work for Incarnate system expansion any more than it does for general game growth. The developers have added a number of things not the like the others.

And as for 'nothing to do with incarnates', my Incarnate powers have been working just fine on all of the 50th level content I have been doing. You get the boost, with or without specifically added content, even now.

I grow weary of seeing all of this negative, tempest in a teacup, 'oh noes the Incarnate game is so hard' crap, on top of the 'I must be able to solo anything' BS.

If the game grows too much in a certain direction for you like it any longer, that is a sad but possible outcome to the story. But I am really tired of the whining that learning new ways to play the game, or having to spend more time on a game that is a time-sink, is something bad for the game, because IMO, the recent changes have brought more life into the game that it has ever had.

If you cannot deal with a game changing and growing, then an MMO is not for you.

The player base as a whole has been begging for content of this nature for years.

If you are married to the status quo, then by all means just keep playing all the content the game already has to offer, and ignore the new content the way you ignore PvP.

Those of us who have open minds about things changing will just keep enjoying all the new thing you are too stubborn to learn to do.

The solo difficulty should not be lowered to appease people that flatly refuse to avail themselves of the tools available in the game to complete content.

See, it works both ways.

Even in this extremely solo friendly MMO, there are times when you will need help, even if you don't like it. Either use the tools that are available or STFU. Don't try to change the game for the rest of us due to YOUR stubborn refusal to use the in game resources to their fullest extent.

Oh just rage quit already and leave the rest of us to enjoy the game.

I have tanked both of them and had PLENTY to do besides being a taunt-bot, including doing respectable damage to BM up close.

Go have a good cry and and some ice cream, you'll feel better.

We cannot all be as perfect as you, can we?

Oh Johnny, have you not yet figured out that no one at Paragon Studios really cares what you think resources should be spent on by now, especially the way you have addressed them, like calling them stupid?

Which, in this example, is all your nerd rage seems to capable of doing...yelling insults.

I am thankful every time I read one your posts like this that you have 0 to do with what gets added to this game.

Your complaint seems to revolve around the fact that foes you think you should be able to beat, you can't. How sad for you.

Me, I could care less if the foes are called Battle Maiden or Object 12345, as long as I have fun playing the game. Which I do, along with, it seems, a few thousand others.

Enjoy your nerd rage, I'l be enjoying the new TFs.

Wow. Was not expecting anyone to take the time to make a build, thanks!

I can certainly agree with that idea. I am trying for a more team oriented character with this guy though and I think the +def from the FF bubbles is a better benefit. That is, the end, one of the reasons I chose FF this time.

While I do, I think, understand your viewpoint on wanting the game to not be real life Sam, this statement is just not true.

I do not think the time and effort involved to attain the highest tier of power in City to be, in any way, 'too much' and I have NOT reached it. I am close on a couple of 50's, but not really there.

Effort must be expended in an MMO to attain the various tiers of power if it is going to thrive. Doom on God-Mode is fun for an hour or so and then I don't want to play it again.

I would be out the door and I think there are quite a few that would be in line with me to leave, if this game was nothing more than Gauntlet with a Hero skin. It may well attract other to replace those that leave who enjoy such a play style, but I do not think there are enough to make it thrive as an MMO.

If the particular effort involved is not pleasant for one as a gamer, then by all means, find something fun. That's why I stay here, even after trying pretty much all the others.

One of the edge topics this is really hitting on for me is the notion of the game ever being 'work'. Sure there are portions that are tedious now and then. There are certainly portions that are time consuming.

But Work? Right now, I am an IT Director. For years I was a waiter and many other things. During all of that time, there has never been any game I found to be 'work'. Tedious, time consuming or simply not fun, but 'work' never enters into it for me, personally.

I think the problem is that some people in general think that just because there is an item in an MMO, no matter if it is a weapon, a badge or an enhancement, that they are entitled to have that item simply because they bought the game. Not even single player games are built with that in mind. Some level of effort must be expended to attain the goodies in a game.

I do this all the time, so do hundreds of other players.

"Don't take the Carnie mission, they suck. Don't take the Malta mission, they are too tough."

This is yet another place in this discussion where Bunny, you are valuing your model and math over the application of knowledge in the game.

And yes, I have looked at the spreadsheet. One of my gaming buddies is a mathematician, working for 'the man'. We discuss these sorts of things all the time. He can prove mathematically that 2+2 = 5.

Bunny, you are not modelling how the game actually works and having knowledge that can actually be applied is all that's important when I make characters. I want to know how tough I am going to be based upon all my options and your model does nothing to help with that.

Mathematically, of course some level of regeneration can become better than defense. But the amount needed is not any where close to what can be obtained easily in game and again, that is all that matters.