Lord_Qel_Thyr

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It feels like I've been farming that zone for a llfietime

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GG made a typo!

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Give a woman some inspirations and she can farm for a while, give her a heavy and she can farm for a lifetime.

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Better

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But unrealistic

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PvP in RV? yeah right. Take off heavies and that will dead zone

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Edited for fun

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Which reaffirms what I said, RV is not a PvP zone, it's a farming zone, and so will be till heavies are taken away from it

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Or at least XP from them

Addition: As you put in a later post

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RV is not just a PvP zone.

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Oh really?

New PvP Zone - Recluse's Victory

A new high level PvP zone, set in an alternate version of Atlas Park and open to players of Level 40+.

Im afraid it is `just` a PvP zone.


It has been said over and over and over again by PvP'ers and non-PvP'ers alike, and even the Mods, that PvP zones are for PvP, if you DO NOT agree with that, then you should not enter one! But sadly, some people still just do not get it.

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Anyone who turns around and says that it also has PvE sides, that can be said about any of the other zones. There are mobs to be defeated and missions to take part in. All the zones have their own specific aspects of PvE put with the PvP zone.

I had a point when I started this post, it was to agree with Blizz's post, and I think I've done that, however, it's late, and I can't think of anything else to type

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PvP in RV? yeah right. Take off heavies and that will dead zone

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In addition to the caltrops in the water, planting mines in the water is easier to hide against those characters that have perception powers to see them. Also, mines will only go off if you see foes on them, if you are half way across the map, they wont detonate.

Mines in general are fun in pvp, can take out pretty much every AT

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Hold supression is 10 secs between each hold

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Hence the bane being multiple effects from characters, the suppression may cover holds, but it wont cover the incoming disorientate power, of sleep, or confuse. Cylcing though those affords quite a useful tactic against players.

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*takes a shot*
will have to be on the lookout for one of those, my vills don't pvp well but my bro's stlaker is always willing to go for a bounty.
*takes a shot*
to anyone who understands my drinking game, im on an alt in the hollows while typing
*takes 10 shots*

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*readies a stomach pump and a crash cart*

I think i may have seen it on my corr or stalker a few times, cant be sure tho.

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if thats to me stalk i aint got a rad/sonic O.o

if to lord or jumm, carry on... :P

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I don't have any Rad toons at all, in any form of the sets

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Recently, i've been playing my brute in RV alot, and he's great fun (SS/EA for those who don't know), but there's a problem with a power that's been getting me. Tear Gas, it seems like any AT can have this as it's been stacked on me quite a few times by different people.

It won't drop my toggles, yet it'll hinder me unable to move or the sort. It also doesn't show any change in status effects in my top right corner.

How are people getting this temp (might not be :s) and is it actually WAI?

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Only source i know of it for now, is that the Longbow Cataphracts, (hero heavies) can fire them.

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Just checking... How can a villain complete all of the Villain Accolades, without being required to enter a PvP zone.


[/ QUOTE ]They can't. They have a choice, they either complete the accolade, and enter a PvP zone to do that, or they choose to NOT get that accolade. Accolades are not required to complete any portion of the PvP game, last I checked.

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They can't. OK.

So if a player considers the Accolades to be an important part in 'completing' their character, then they have no choice but are required to enter the PvP zones?

Last time I checked, I saw that Accolades had various effects on characters on the PvE side.

This could go round in circles forever but an undeniable fact is that PvE oriented villains, who only feel that their character is 'complete' when they have all the accolades available, must enter the PvP zones.

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I wonder how much of an uproar there would be if one of the pre-requisites for the Vanguard accolade was made that it could only be gained through PvP.

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Just checking... How can a villain complete all of the Villain Accolades, without being required to enter a PvP zone.


[/ QUOTE ]They can't. They have a choice, they either complete the accolade, and enter a PvP zone to do that, or they choose to NOT get that accolade. Accolades are not required to complete any portion of the PvP game, last I checked.

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Got to love the balance issue 7 brought to CoH and CoV.

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Yeah, regarding the use of Telemining? Tough, it's something that works, and likely the reasons the Brutes weren't TP'd is because they had proficiant protection from TP Foe, and the blaster knew this.

People always seem to be irked by being TP Foed, regardless of whether it is into drones/mines/Tar Patch etc.

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Yep, I dont think the blaster done anything wrong. I can see the point of this strategy if your seriously outnumbered but I wouldnt use it as it seems pretty boring. If he came on his spiner bragging about "uber pwnzooring" your dom though well he sounds like a muppet for that. Similarly I had a lovely discussion last night for droning a spine scrapper pushed right up next to the villain base. Apparently I'm a "looser" and "lame", despite the fact we were outnumbered 13 to 4 and this guy was in danger of droning himself anyway (one little hop and he would have been right over the railing and stood next to the flyer).

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I can get to that flyer and survive

Geting back tho...

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This happened me a couple of weeks ago actually....but last night made me remember...so I decided to make a post.

Well, I logged on my dominator and entered sirens call to try have some fun in PvP.
As I entered there was some fiery talk over broadcast about a blaster using TP foe to drop squishies on top of his caltrops and mines.
Then I joined in on a team and we fought some heroes near one of the hotspots.
So, the heroes then decide they will bail back to base and camp there...so we follows after.

Now, the heroes starts coming out 1 by 1 and occasionaly 2-3 but gets paved fairly quickly.
Thats when our squishies suddenly starts to disappear 1 by 1 and basically dies instantly....of course the blaster is back.
I gets TP'ed and dies instantly on the mines...rezzes at hospital, sighs and uses aid self...then back to hero base.
Some more squishies are TP'ed onto mines (none of the brutes were ever TP'ed) and I gets TP'ed again...rezzes, again at the hospital another sigh and gets back to hero base.
The TP'ing continues and Im TP'ed a 3'rd time.

I then bites my lip not to flood the broadcast with rants and just say over the broadcast:

"so Mr.Blaster (dont want to use names), do you have anything else besides TP foe onto your mines or is that all you got? seriously, its just lame and pisses people off"
The blaster then replies over the broadcast about he is so squishy, this is the only tactic he got because he dont have any mez resistance, I will just hold him and he will be ganked etc etc (the blaster was also not teamed with the other heroes )

So I gets back to hero base and to my big surprise finds the blaster outside sniping me.
I spots him quite fast and fires off a hold....he is held and drops to the ground and I starts laying down fire on him.
Suddenly he pops a breakfree, puts up his toggles and starts attacking with burst, slug, web grenade and caltrops.
In the end he kills me because of defiance.

So I rezzes and thinks: "impressive...he came out" gets back to hero base and the blaster is to be found outside again, sniping me and fireing off slug and burst.
I hold him again, he pops a BF again and atatcks me...a little firefight inbetween us 2 then I throw a bonfire at him so he gets knocked back and off a ledge and down to the street below us.
He comes up again and I disappears around a corner with just a sliver of health and heals myself.
Then a teammate comes running and aimes in for the blaster...which activates cloaking device and bails.
So we go back to the hero base and fights a little more...and the TP'ing starts again...I just shook my head and didnt bother.

Now....here comes the funny part...most people will think this was a random whining blaster....BUT...that blaster belongs to one of Defiants self proclaimed "kings of PvP" which just logged in his "ub3r" PvP spiner last night just to show me how he "pwnz0r" my dominator...and again holds a speech of how he is known on Defiant and how he is a "rated top PvP'er"

I dont know what other to say than.... SIGH

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Yeah, regarding the use of Telemining? Tough, it's something that works, and likely the reasons the Brutes weren't TP'd is because they had proficiant protection from TP Foe, and the blaster knew this.

People always seem to be irked by being TP Foed, regardless of whether it is into drones/mines/Tar Patch etc.

It's close to the "You have <Insert certain AT power>, that isnt fair!" This covers Stalkers using Hide and AS, Brute's having high resists and mez protection, Regens using regen moves, Controllers using holds, Doms as well, Empaths using CM, anyone using Tactics against Stalkers, Ice tankers using any defence moves (Yes, it annoys me, but I still play against it and try).

There are ways to prevent being TP'd, orange coloured Insps for one.

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pointless posting ftw
also how i mine 4 fish?

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WITH GRENADES!!! MWAHAHAHA!!!

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There is no more PvP, there is only, THE CAGE!!!

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And suddenly, you sound like Xanthus. =o

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noes! we cant ahve 2 of em running round!!!1111oneone

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Ok if I choose a different travel power then?

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They're gonna be mighty annoyed in the US when you reduce their sig lengths to 200, I reckon.

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Dammit, I was gonna post that

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Dammit, I was gonna post that

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Outta my brain you!

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They're gonna be mighty annoyed in the US when you reduce their sig lengths to 200, I reckon.

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Dammit, I was gonna post that

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There is no more PvP, there is only, THE CAGE!!!

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And suddenly, you sound like Xanthus. =o

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That was the second time i made that type of comment in 10 minutes, whether that is a good thing or not...

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Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but everyone should remember that everyone else has an opinion too and it's not always going to be the same.

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I wanted to sig that, but I've run out of characters .

I DEMAND A DATAMINE!

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Seventyteenbillion! There, datamine!

Hmm, I realy should get back to PvPing... or at least leveling some of my more PvP apt toons...

Yay! Posts again! I love this thread

There is no more PvP, there is only, THE CAGE!!!

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I can understand your frustration as RV is a very cool zone, it is unique to all other zones and is a lot of fun. It has pvp, great xp/prestige farming potential, badges and signature heroes/villains. However, all those cool things are their precisely because it is a PvP zone. The XP is great because you are constantly at risk of being attacked, IMO this is a fair trade off, in that you must momentarily stop farming that turret with your heavy and defend yourself.

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But if I loose my Heavy to another player as a result expect a frosty response. But better than that would be to go to Warburg or even better, Sirens Call, where all the real PvP is happening.

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I find this comment unreasonable. As far as I'm aware there are only two heavies available per side (please correct me if i'm wrong) and they are fair game. Just because you want to use the heavy to get easy xp doesn't mean that the heavy is exclusivly yours.

In short, by all means enjoy the zone, but be prepared to be attacked. If you ask someone to stop, they may be a kind soul and leave you alone. Others will just see you as an easy target. Such is life.

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There are 3 per side, the locations of them are on the ingame maps in each base.

Given the points you've pointed out regarding the comments you expect in return to this post, all I can say is good call, as it's exactly what you are going to get, from both players and forum moderators.

It's a PvP zone, PvP is going to happen, you get this mentioned to you every time you enter the zone.
Stalkers can do more than just PvP stalk kills, as you put it "thats all they are good at". I've both seen and acted as one, stalkers "scrapping" with other ATs.

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Its akin to the right to use a Public Right Of Way through the middle of a Farmers field. You have the legal right to do this and trample the Farmers crops, but its a reprehensible act non the less. Or perhaps the Smokers somewhat incomprehensible idea that because he has the right to smoke in a resturant and pollute the lungs of other people, he therefor should.

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No, it't not. In PvP the simplest rule is Players have the chance to attack and defeat other Players. Examples you gave are with an indication that a rule is being broken, in PvP zones, attacking another player is not against a rule, so the comparison doesn't hold.

Hmm... I see tinder...

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Depends what you play.
On a controller maybe. In favourable conditions you might kill some held squishys while playing a dominator before supression pops up. Blasters etc should kill something before supression kicks which is prolly why accro resists there holds. Even a tank will kill a squishy before supression kicks in. (funny how they do so much more damage than say dom or defender, despite also having there attacks in there secondary).

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I have tried to bring up the weakness of dominators for some time now, if you agree with me that they are disadvantaged. My blaster can kill squishies in less than 3 seconds if I stun them. Usually mere stun is enough - even if they pop break free they cannot escape in time.

A 40+ troller usually has no trouble killing held opponents. Dominators are the ones that have trouble..

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At 40+ things get thrown way out of balance due to hero APP's being superior to villian PPP's. It does seem stupid that a non control AT benefits more from any soft contolling secondary effects than a dom does from a whole primary of controls. Tanks, scrappers, blasters etc will stun, hold, whatever, then quickly kill a squishy before the effect wears off. The argument that "damage is your secondary, it should be low" is baloney as well. A blaster has some of its most damaging attacks in its secondary.
Oh well, positron said in an interview that they are looking into how each AT performs in PVP so maybe we will get those mandatory shoulder kittens yet.

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Blaster secondaries (all but em and elec are massively underperforming sets now) were supposed to be getting looked at well over a year ago and nothing has changed, but who cares so long as they keep making wonderful zones like grandville and the arachnos lab maps which are not a big pile of poop at all

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Ah, but they did change, you can't TP Auto Turret any more making /Dev worse.