KnightofKhonsu

Very eloquent, concise, and thorough, El D. Well thought out and presented. In my book what you said, perfect.

Originally, I had slotted 5 Perf Shifters including the proc in Electric armor and 4 in Power Sink. I reduced Electric armor to 2 (Proc and End Mod) and 3 on Power Sink (Proc, End Mod, End Mod & Accuracy) and Energized by 1. I have 4 slotted in Stamina, including the proc.

I reduced health to three, Regen proc, Numnia’s, & Miracle. I used the six available slots putting 2 for a total of 6 in Barrage & Energy Punch slotted Mako in both removing Kinetic Combat because it sucked performance wise. I added a fourth slot to Tough and one more Impv Armor for the 2.25% increase in recovery and 1 more LoG (Def-End) for Maneuvers and finally, added 1 to Phy Pef Numnia's Heal/End.

Lastly, since I already had Absolute Amazement slotted in Whirling Hands, I converted MoT into superior. I increased my regen remained the same +24% with Numnia, hit points went up from 2400 to 2448 and so did my recovery as my End usage dropped. Once I get Task Force Commander and Portal Jockey accolade powers, I expect that will help even more.

Time will tell if going with Agility was the correct move. However, if Cardiac is required, I can always change out Agility for it. Only time will tell. So far, after some intense fighting during Maria Jenkins' missions, I did not have any endurance issues I experienced before my last respec. Currently, I believe I have 2.6 billion invested in my tank. I want to add one more purple set Hecatomb to ET then I believe I am done.

Ah ha! He hit me with it and it bounced off! Quantumshock is immune to energy attacks! muwahahahaha... However, when I hit him with my own TF, he cried out like a little girl! BUWAHAHAHAHA!

You are not the only one to feel this way Houtex. I am sure there are plenty of players who felt the same way.

Like you, I enjoyed articipating in every SSA. Did it matter that I did not effect any sort of change or outcome? Not really. However, I did feel like I was part of the story, not on the sidelines as some have expressed.

As for the writing, it has done its job in eliciting emotional reaction from the fans. I'm not here to critique the nauances of the writing either. When fans express emotions in the manner you and others have, or if they absolutely loath what was written, the story did what it is supposed to do. This means the stories are successful. However, had the stories received ho-hum responses, then it is an abject failure.

The WWD story arc entertained me so far. That adds the value to it in my book. I am looking forward to SSA #7.

Now that is one cool looking weapon.

After respecting again yesterday, the changes I made took care of END issues. What is important is I now can run with my sprint on and not worry about burning through endurance. Before with all toggles on, I consumed 2.21 pnts/sec. Now, it's 1.71 pnts/sec. Alternatively, I increased my recovery from 3.5 to 3.7 /sec. Now Agility is proving its worth. I suspect by the time I get to T-4 endurance won't be an issue again or so I hope that's the case.

Alone while soloing, I'm not having much of a problem with End per se. However, when I'm teaming with my best friend, his Time/Bots MM really over boosts my recharge and I am bashing away like a speed freak. Thus goes the endurance. I confirmed this last night after experiencing it against Kronos the night before. This is especially noticable when fighting enemies 2 levels above my own (52) or GMs, endurance vaporizes quickly. Basically, I'm trying to build him to accommodate the effects that TM does to my character. If I can do that, endurance will never be an issue.

My referring to the Foot Stomp by saying, "No one can do anything about that," is in reference to being inside the effective range of the AoE when it does happen. Not that no one can do anything about the 'stopping' that attack.

You said about the Foot Stomp:

As you see, you stated, "you know a way;" however, you did not devulge that tid bit of information. There is a distinct difference here. I sure would appreciate it if you'd share that kind of information. As I am sure that tactic can be used against those GM that use Foot Stomp as an attack as there are plenty of them running around.

Bugger me. You're right. I completely forgot about that. Hmm...I sense a respect coming to make some changes. Thanks.

Thanks, no need to apologize. I understand where you were coming from. Challenging tankers is almost like a mandate here, I think. Something to make us better at what we do.

Yes, and after seeing the difference in terminology for Targeted AoE being used here, I learned something new. New Dawn's points of ranges of AoE and long with your information and others helped me realize I should have directed the team to attack from behind or from a position that would better protect them from his AoE attacks on me. Footstomp...no one can do anything about that other than try to anticipate the attack. Additionally, I should have had them target through me affording them some protection from aggro, furthering my control over this metal beast.

I read through it and will do so again, this time with more study. I'm not one to rest on my backside thinking I don't need to improve.

As an update from our continued lifelong (so it seems) Crimson Missions, we faced (Tindoor and I) Kronos (Elite Boss this time) again in the end of the arc. This time, I had Tindoor and his bots attack the group in front of Kronos while I pounded on him. As I completed my first attack chain (using all of my attacks), Tindoor put the Malta group down, Kronos was down to less than a quarter of his hit points. Then Tindoor joined my attack. We took him done in less than a minute (between 50 - 55 seconds iirc) from the moment I attacked him until he dropped. After battling the GM version of Kronos last night, it seemed anti-climatic. lol

I will actually change the entire MoT set to superior. Yeah, I'm aware of the rule of 5. I don't plan on using more than maybe 1 purple set, Hetacomb, in either Energy Transfer or Total Focus. Which would would I benefit the most from? I'm thinkg ET.

I know I made some mistakes during that fight last night, especially now after reading some of the things written. Hell, this is my first time tanking a Giant Monster. Normally, I'm in a support role with other tanks or brutes in the lead with my tank, brute, or scrapper. Tanking a mob is different than a GM.

However, I am not a person who gets set in doing something the same way always (read: set in his ways). As a student of Edward Deming, I'm always looking to improve the process in how I do things including myself. I've learned something things here from this thread that I'll most assurdedly use in the future.

Enthusiasm? Heck yes. I'm always enthusiastic when I'm gaming, not matter the genre. As a long-time Traveller, D&D, and BattleTech player, I never get tired of playing. There's always something new and exciting going on. At my age, enthusiasm is keeping me young even though my kids call me an old fart! lol

While what you say is true; however, academic situation do help for applying towards actual practice.

I thought of that too; however, during our missions he's constantly hitting me with it before I jump into a couple of mobs and I haven't had any crash problems. Plus, I don't have Hasten. Build up, but I don't remember if there's a crash effect with it. Still it could be the combination of recharging at 135% normal when hit hits me with Temporal power. Still, I have this nagging feeling that there might be some tie in with -regen and affecting recovery. I've experienced this with Knives of Artemis and some of the Hercules and Zeus's before facing Kronos.

Okay, so you are saying that even though it does not specifically say 'Targeted AoE' their affects are? Meaning, that a specific target and the AoE affect is around the target. Targeted AoE, to me means, targeting a specific area.


When someone says, 'Targeted AoE,' I immediately think of targeting a specific area. I believe this is where the miscommunications is happening. Dechs is referring to one thing using verbage that means something else to me. lol Hm...probably best to say, 'AoE on a target.'


Then that better explains why Tindoor and the other suffered so much because they were close to me, save for the stalker and brute. They were out of the frontal arc.

I know. I saw that last night after looking Kronos up again. However, you normally don't lose 25% of your endurance when using a attack power, especially with the IO sets I have. This normally corresponded with being hit by Kronos' Plasma Blast. I wish I could remember the female brute's name, she first mentioned it after we were in the heat of battle.

Thanks. I know. I wish I had video recorded it that way you could see the effect on my endurance. Even when I did not attack, I lost endurance after the Plasma Blast. I know it says -Regeneration; however, I wonder if this attack somehow effects recovery because the negative effect on regeneration in making it stop. Will that cause recovery to some how faulter? This is the only time I drastically lost endurance. This happened to me too when hit with the poison darts that cause -regen by Knives of Artemis. There has to be some kind of connection between the two. Has no one ever took notice of this before? Or just simply brushed it off as over working the character? I'd really like to know.

My hat's off to you.

As I wrote above, yes I did; however, they chose to keep close.

I posted this above, so I'll do so again. The only powers that are Targeted AoEs are colored red, the rest are standard AoE (blue).

Burn (Targeted Area of Effect, Damage over Time, Fire) Burn
Anyone that passes through these flames will be burned.
Foot Stomp (Point Blank) Area Effect, Foe Knockback
Kronos Titans shake the very Earth itself with a super Foot Stomp, attacking everything in a nearby area.
Gas Swarm Missiles Ranged, Area of Effect, Lethal, Foe Hold
Kronos Titans can launch a pack of 16 Gas Swarm Missiles
Incendiary Swarm Missiles Ranged, Area of Effect, Lethal, +Burn
Kronos Titans can launch a pack of 16 Incendiary Swarm Missiles
Plasma Blast (Ranged) Foe -Regeneration
Titan plasma burns are hard to heal. The burns have halted your Regeneration rate.
Sleep Gas (Targeted Area of Effect) Hold
Anyone that passes through this gas will take damage from the fumes.
Swarm Missiles Ranged, Area of Effect, Lethal, Foe Knockback
Kronos Titans can launch a pack of 16 Incendiary Swarm Missiles

This information comes directly from Paragon Wiki. If this is incorrect, then it needs updating to reflect the correct information. If not, what I said stands.

Trust me, I do what I can to keep teammates safe. I take it as a personal affront when someone bites it. When that happens, I apologize and try to do better. When I do apologize to them, they blame themselves for being over zealous. I've done that myself with my more fragile characters.

Should is the key word. However, that simply was not the case after we added 5 more team members. True, I have 90% resistance to energy attacks, 129% resistance to endurance drain, and an energy defense of 22%, at certain times during the melee my endurance was draining down from his attacks. As long as "%" chance of something happening or not, you are never 100% immune. Facing a Sapper, I noticed that 9 times out of 10 attacks, I do not suffer any endurance loss. However, I do on the tenth attack. When combating a GM, the numbers are different, especially their attack modifiers and effect than over those standard enemy.

I tried screen printing my numbers; however, it did not turn out. I wanted to show you and everyone else what my numbers are so that I won't be called a liar again. However, I cannot. My END usage is 1.51/per sec and my recovery is 3.51/per sec. I do not burn through endurance as you assume I might. Additionally, I believe after I finally slot either Agility Core Paragon or Radial paragon or Cardiac Core Paragon, endurance will not be an issue for me.

Funny that you accuse me of allowing teammates to fall. That I did not keep Kronos occupied. You are, of course, wrong. I kept his attention the entire time, except once. He turned from me to face the Brute after a particular successful attack of some sort. However, after I hit him, he turned back and focused on me.

What you forget is all of his attacks are AoE save that of his Plasma Assault. Case in point:

Burn (Targeted Area of Effect, Damage over Time, Fire) Burn
Anyone that passes through these flames will be burned.
Foot Stomp (Point Blank) Area Effect, Foe Knockback
Kronos Titans shake the very Earth itself with a super Foot Stomp, attacking everything in a nearby area.
Gas Swarm Missiles Ranged, Area of Effect, Lethal, Foe Hold
Kronos Titans can launch a pack of 16 Gas Swarm Missiles
Incendiary Swarm Missiles Ranged, Area of Effect, Lethal, +Burn
Kronos Titans can launch a pack of 16 Incendiary Swarm Missiles
Plasma Blast (Ranged) Foe -Regeneration
Titan plasma burns are hard to heal. The burns have halted your Regeneration rate.
Sleep Gas (Targeted Area of Effect) Hold
Anyone that passes through this gas will take damage from the fumes.
Swarm Missiles Ranged, Area of Effect, Lethal, Foe Knockback
Kronos Titans can launch a pack of 16 Incendiary Swarm Missiles

Tindoor as you see stayed pretty close to me and the others to heal. However, I kept instructing him to stay back at his range limit of effect. Sadly, he did not because we were surrounding Kronos so he had to stay close inorder to effectively heal the group.

Foot Stomp dropped more team members than any other attack. So, how then, do you or anyone else expect me to protect them from that? Tell them all to back off, including melee fighters and attack from afar? Sorry, but AoE makes no predetermination on who generates the most aggro. Those who were facing Kronos near me fell the most because all of his Targeted AoEs were focused on me.

I hate it when a teammate falls while I'm tanking. However, I cannot, no let me rephrase this, no one can protect everyone 100% of the time, especially when fighting a GM. An enemy like Lord Recluse? That's a different story. Tyrant? Nope better not let him face someone else. These can be kept focusing on that tank(or whomever is generating the aggro).

Exactly what happened. Tindoor is pretty courageous in that he will brave the attacks, no matter what, to do what he is capable of. My friend uses his MM like its a Defender with pets. He is damn good at what he does.

When I started apologizing for him falling, he told me to shut up that it was his fault and blamed his style of play.

I thought that to be the case too. However, when I faced him with the added team members, my endurance dropped in large chunks. Not the typical usage from attacks. I mean 25% gone after he hit me with his Plasma Assault. Even the female brute shouted out to be careful because he would drain END. Tindoor experienced the same thing for some reason. IIRC, everyone was watching their END drain.

I'm pretty good of knowing who is going to drain endurance during a fight. Freakshows, Clockworks, and Carnies come to mind. However, I have recently discovered having endurance issues when facing Knives of Artemis. Then right after facing them, I'm up against Malta with no END problems. Now, explain that one to me. Their powers do not indicate that they drain END. The only thing I can surmise is when you are hit with -Regeneration, it affects your recovery too. However, there is nothing stating that is the case that I've been able to find.

I disagree. AoEs standard ones, not Targeted, affect the area around the enemy. Targeted AoEs, I agree. Which Kronos kept me in his gunsights for all his Targeted AoEs.

Which as I explained above, is exactly what happened.

This is why I wish I could have had a video of this battle. Then everyone would see exactly what happened as I saw them. Then I would not be defending my actions in this manner.

Lastly, the group thanked me for bringing them aboard to participate and they thanked me for tanking. Especially the stalker who, by his own words, 'Oops, I booboo'd.' then laughed about it after he face planted.

Thanks Bionic, I had a blast. I look forward to completing my Incarnate powers so I can go hunting some of these big monsters! lol

Thanks Aett. Don't worry, I don't. I just consider the source.

I want to double up on all the modifications. Doing so will increase my defenses while boosting my global recharge to 95%.

Sweet, thank you Chyll. Much appreciated.

I concur. My Elec Armor/EM tanker rocks.

And it does. I have it as I've mentioned with Bone Crusher. It never fails to triple stack after it first off for the first time. This happens pretty quickly too. Then, of course, I've gone a couple of fights without it firing off. All in all, I'm pleased with the results.