To Slot Agility or Cardiac...

...that is the question.

For my Elect Armor/EM tanker, I slotted Agility for the endurance modification with the anticpation of slotting the T-4 Agility Core Paragon for its rather large endurance modifications rating.

Since I am using 3 sets of Performance Shifter sets, I am thinking going with agility will go hand in hand with PS, especially since I am using 4 PS procs.

However, I still have my eye on Cardiac for controlling endurance head on with the reduction capabilities of Cardiac.

This build is far different from my SS/WP brute or WP/DS tank as they are not endurance pigs as my EA/EM tanker is.

Anyone have any guidance either way? Thanks.

Cardiac can be useful for Elec Armor, for the bonus resists (somewhat less important now, with the ATO proc) and to free you from using Power Sink to manage endurance, which lets you use it primarily as a sapping/aggro tool.

Still, I'd rather have Agility. Endmod/def/recharge is cool.

If your main concern is endurance reduction, you could also consider vigor for the additional acc/heal. I've changed my cardiac slots in for vigor on my guys that used to use cardiac.

Agility is a good option too though if you can make use of the def/recharge.

I honestly can't fathom how you're having such end woes on an Elec tank. 4 Perf Shifter Procs. You also have Phys Per.. You've got the Numi +/+. And you still think you need to add in the Miracle +Recovery *and* grab an alpha based mainly on how it affects your blue bar based on either lessening end usage or upping your end recovery.... What?!

Forgive me, but... Did you take Energize and Power Sink? Are the slotted at all? Do you have any End Reduction slotting in any of your attacks and/or toggles?

Because if the answers are all 'Yes' I can't imagine you'd feel any need for more blue bar control.

Not intending to punt here but I recommend you test it on your personal build and playstyle. You will be losing a lot of end mitigation but I believe that for most toons, agility can replace cardiac with no ill effects to end consumption.

Be sure to pay attention to the secondary boosts. Depending on your power choices, the res buffs will be more helpful on EA than will the def buffs. However, if you've taken things like maneuvers and CJ and stealth, you may get a comprable jump in def that will offset the loss of res. This can be measured with mids if you've not done that yet.

Recharge is the secondary buff that I like the most out of agility... all toons can use more recharge.

I am too lazy to grind alpha again but I think some of my toons should enjoy Agility more than Cardiac.

Range toons should probably still enjoy Cardiac because it has good +20% range.

I think if you are mostly melee, you can probably get better use of Agility. The +resistance from Cardiac seems too small for my taste.

Well, for Tanker Elec Armor, the +resist from Cardiac made capped S/L resist obtainable. But you can get that pretty easily now anyway, with the ATO proc.

So one Performance Shifter Proc is as good as Stamina?

My ss/elec brute prefers cardiac. Even with the ability go leech endurance, I need the direct end reduction. Also, some of my oblit and other set slotting almost requires it. Running 9 toggles is a bear. Plus I prefer having the luxury to leech foes as an attack of sorts, rather than feeling obligated to activate it so that I dont pass out.

Lewis

Thats cool. We probably have different thresholds for tolerable end consumption. I think I have higher recovery than you and less end consumption, without cardiac, and I still prefer it.

I have a miracle, numina, a perf proc, slotted stamina, and physical perfection, with good endurance reduction in my powers AND access to the elec armor power which let me leech endurance. Even with all that, I couldnt live without cardiac.

But I am sure others would be fine with agility.

Lewis

If you aren't capped on it, 2 Numina's in health net you more regen than the tissue proc.

I've said it every time Cardiac comes up in the forums:

Check out Vigor - you get the same end cost as Cardiac Radial but it might give you more benefits outside of that, depending on your character.