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Here's another thought to chew on. What party, Republican or Democrat, seems to be infringing on our freedoms more? While it may seem the ones coming from the right are more numerous, we actually get more restrictions from the left. The ones coming from the right tend to be more about national security while the ones from the left tend to be more domestic issues. One example that is affecting just the gaming comminity is that we got bills going through Congress that will make games such as CoH or other violent games be unable to be sold. There's a restriction on our freedoms right there. Just look around the country and you'll see plenty of our freedoms being restricted on the basis of "equality" for all. As for brainwashing tools for different sides of the government, what do you think the liberal media has done?

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I am commenting solely on "bills going through Congress that will make games such as CoH or other violent games be unable to be sold."

These bills exist solely on the misguided belief of "extremists" [probably not the word I should use] in America that believe violent video games are the cause of the increased violence among the youth of America. I have been playing "violent" video games for many, many years [I'll be 47 this year] and I personally have no use for guns, and the only violence I use is to defend myself. If video games were the root cause of the violence amongst today's youth then I would expect more people my age to be similarly violent. The facts do not bear out the reasoning behind these bills.

I believe the real problem with today's youth is lack of parental supervision. I know for a fact that there a children out there whose parents have no idea where they are, and truthfully do not care as long as they are not bothering them. A large part of their environment is therefore missing, and thus a great deal of moral values are missing. It's for America's parents to take responsibility for the actions of their children. What part violent video games plays in this can be controlled them, since common sense should tell most people that a game is not real life.

***DONS FLAME PROOF SUIT***

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why the flame proof suit? parents are the things that should be watching what their kids are doing, not the government. the majority of these bills based off of the possibility they might cause kids to shoot others just takes away accountability and responsibility from the person who did the deed. if some kid shoots up others and people blame it on the games he played, how did he get the game in the first place? most likely because his parents bought it and didn't pay attention to what was going in their kid's head.

guess i'll take a look at the empowerment stations. i got 99 of each of the low and mid range components and around 20 of each of the high end.

um i take it you took my response as pretty much against yours which it wasn't meant to be. more of a point to discuss which is what I thought you wanted.

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Being registered by the government makes you accountable only to the government-- which is those giving you those missions.

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how is this different from the police then? law enforcement is basically the same thing. they're "registered" with the government and since they're the ones who are enforcing the law, they're pretty much only accountable to themselves.

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It is **illegal** for a police officer to beatt someone senseless. Thats called undue force. Furthermore what a police officer may do in cases where they have a suspect withotu evidence is *very* limited. Finally, a polcie officer may NOT arrest anyone for a crime they have not yet comitted.

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well we do have conspiracy charges. if someone's conspiring to murder someone, they can arrest them before the act. there's a difference between suspicion and actually conspiring to commit a crime. while police can't just arrest based on a suspicion, if we have evidence to a crime then we can.

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How many "heroes" wait to be attacked before engaging in the use of force? Its not behavior I ever see in game.

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heh, i guess you've never tried to get to a mission in the hollows then . ..

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So shouldnt the OTHER heroes be hunting them? Are you suggesting that violence outside of the law is sometiems justified? If so, then how do you seperate the violence of your heroes from their opponents by anything other then arbitrary POV?

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I never said that violence outside of the law is good. vigilantism, in my opinion, is a bad thing. I was saying that what you wrote about CoH can be applied to the comic books as well. What I was saying was in SUPPORT of what you're writing so quit taking everything I said in a negative way.

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Incorrect. Rigth after 9/11 a special law was passed that just appleid to Afghani. They had to physically go into an INS office to be put on a special list of who they are and where they live. They need to update that list if they move. Go read the old newspapers.

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well I know my grandmother who was naturalized a long time ago had to go into a office to get some stuff updated (chinese btw)

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Not that I think the Millitary ruel here is justified either. If someone is a citizen, and they can pass the millitary clearance process, race should make no difference. I am surprised and disappointed to hear otherwise.

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yeah, I was surprised to hear about it too. We went through a pretty thorough security check when we first signed up and I really think a tie to the North Korean government would've popped up somehow.

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I dont buy that either myself. A combination of factors. The game industry is too independant for that I think as a rule. It also tends to be pretty liberal though there are certainly exceptions. More, I really dont think our government is that clever 8)

I DO think however that art emerges from a societal context and that what we see in-game is at least somewhat reflective of the political times we are in.

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that comment wasn't directed at you but rather to the other person that replied in your thread. think the conspiracy theory wheels were turning too hard in his mind or something to think CoH was a tool of the government right . ..

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As just one example of our slide into a polcie state, were yo uaware that for about the first 175 years of his country it was accepted as a legal *fact* that the constitution absolutely forbade *any* attempts to legislate what peopel put in ther bodies. (eg drugs.)

The constitution was never changed, but this particualr understanding of its meaning was gradually eroded away in the minds of the public til noone objected to the change.

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Just shows how the Constitution is supposedly a living document and can be interpreted to fit the times.

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I did not know that fetal stem cells, abortion, dfinitions and limitations of marriage, or limitation of what counts as art were national security issues.

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if you noticed, i put "tend to". what i said wasn't an absolute. giong by your thinking of absolutes, then the democrats wouldn't touch anything outside of the country . ..

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This is a wonderful shining generality and a myth almost as constant and pernicious as the "Elders of Zion.". The so called "liberal media" as an organized force never existed. I know this as a fact because I am the son of journalists. The traditional Journalists *tended* to be liberal because they saw their role (rightly) as the people's watch-dog on governmental abuse.

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people who are just delivering the news and facts of what happens are fine with me. What I get annoyed with is when people then go and tell us how we should interpret some event.

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I suggest you rent "outfoxxed", if you are open enough not automatically dismiss anything you hear which doesnt meet with your preconceptions.

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what? are you implying that I can't keep an open mind? thanks for keeping an open mind yourself . ..

BTW, you should really check to see who people are talking to next time. There's a clear division from where I was responding to your post and where I was responding to Boudicia's. Some of your responses sounded like you thought I was attacking your views when I was just responding to the other person.

umm there is accountability for the heroes. why do you think we all have to be registered heroes? if you read the comics, there's even a hero put on trial for murder. as for the 5th column/Council, its not that they're just standing on the corner making political speeches, they are actively seeking to overthrow the government through militayr means (last I checked that counted as treason . ..) as for the other mobs just standing around while we attack, go stand near them and listen to their dialog. For the most part, they are involved in some kind of crime at the time or plotting a crime. if a cop hears some people planning a robbery or a murder, it is perfectly legal for the cop to bring them in for questioning (which technically, we are just sending mobs to prison). They may not be doing anything at the moment but they could be recognized from a previous crime and be taken in. It also doesn't help their case when they tend to attack you just for walking by. The few places in the game where they actually are just standing around and not attacking civilians are usually in hazard zones where its already walled off and the inhabitants know that its under martial law.

This can also be applied to any of the comic book heroes but even more so. Many of the heroes in the comics are actively hunted by the cops because they are vigilantes; they fight crime outside of the law and government.

Last I checked, all immigrants (well legal ones anyways) had their country of origin marked. It's not just the Afghans.
I can give you a different example though. In the US military, people of Korean descent are not allowed into nuclear programs.

It's a pretty interesting take on CoH and would love to hear some of your other views.


Btw, Boudicia, racial profiling isn't just from you call the "current regime" . .. its pretty much happened nonstop throughout the conutry's history. Also, your comment about any Asians being herded off is not true. Those of Japanese descent were.

As for what you say about it might being a tool of the far right of our government, I take it you haven't really taken any poli sci classes? Our government if seen from the big picture is fairly center. Our two parties politically are not that different (especially when you compare it to places like Europe).

Here's another thought to chew on. What party, Republican or Democrat, seems to be infringing on our freedoms more? While it may seem the ones coming from the right are more numerous, we actually get more restrictions from the left. The ones coming from the right tend to be more about national security while the ones from the left tend to be more domestic issues. One example that is affecting just the gaming comminity is that we got bills going through Congress that will make games such as CoH or other violent games be unable to be sold. There's a restriction on our freedoms right there. Just look around the country and you'll see plenty of our freedoms being restricted on the basis of "equality" for all. As for brainwashing tools for different sides of the government, what do you think the liberal media has done?

have it spawn in every zone and have it show up on the map (similar to how your target shows up in siren's). that way people can all converge on it and just kick it around and it will make it pretty hard for someone to grief it by hiding it somewhere. oy can you imagine what would happen if it spawned in DA with no way to find it?

microfilaments do not work in teleport.

Phantasm can also be slotted with trav/ends

heh so dmg/rng works in melee attacks and increases the range? i'll have to try that out . ..

wow someone revived a dead thread. read it up to the point where positron mentioned i4 then looked at the dates . ..

if they added in the contaminated back in, they're gonna need to change the text for the badge.

you got a list of rarity also? i had a list of them bookmarked on the forums but the forums ate the thread . ..

heh i'm glad to hear there's a snowbeast gladiator for toy collector now. makes me happy that i spent the time to get toy collector on all 18 of my toons.

heh when i was farming the mishes, someone in my sg asked to join. told him we could get more bosses if we found more people so he goes off to recruit. he ended up telling people that we were doing a badge mish (ie mish completion gives badge) so after 2 or 3 resets, they started asking questions. turns out the guy from my sg didn't know what he was talking about and then got pissed at us because he didn't know it would take a couple of hours farming the mishes.

btw, we had better luck if the villain had the star and entered the mish first. don't know if that's true or not but the few times we went through and found no succubus or hellfrosts, it was when a hero entered first or had the star. our theory on that was that when the hero had star or entered first, the map got set as a CoH map and not as a CoV map. Since succubus and hellfrosts are CoV exclusive, they wouldn't spawn.

sorry bad day.

its the first villain mish in pocket d. defeat torrigal or something like that. you'll get hordelings if its a lower level mish and succubus and hellfrosts if its a higher mish.

umm if you read through the last couple of pages you would see that we're talking about the pocket d mishes where you can team with a villain . ..

you could at least try to make an effort to figure it out on your own. there's only been about 3+ pages about it in this thread . ..

just got colblooded and hellfrost gladiator badge on my hero.

umm well obviously since its a villain badge. trick is, is it confirmed for heroes?

edit: just got hordeling lasher gladiator badge on my hero as well. cold hearted still not confrimed yet.

Weed Whacker is confirmed for heroes. I got it on 2 different toons and the rest of my team got it as well. We're testing Coldhearted now.

Don't demand heals because you agroed the whole group while running away. We can't heal if you're two rooms back . ..

healing badges only work if actual damage is healed. healing people that are already at full health has no affect for badges. also, there's an issue with dull pain that any damage past the max hp without dull pain doesn't count towards the damage badge so i imagine its the same for the healing badges.
the sg healing badges take a ton of healing to get as well.