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Quote:Originally Posted by Nihilii
Mind or Ill control = pure psi
It would seem Spec Wounds would be Ranged and PA would be Melee etc. -
I always thought it was stuff like confuse and decieve that isn't status based Psi.
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Quote:ya. and there is always respecOriginally Posted by BrokenPrey
Dark Consumption might be overkill because of Power sink. Power is a lot better and it doesn't need a to hit check and it is up more so I think it would be ok to Drop Dark Consumption.
Now for the Attacks...No you are not attack heavy. You can have that many attack and be just find. If you like the attacks there is nothing wrong with having that many attacks. As long as you like them then it is ok. It also depends on what you want to do with the build to to say if you have too many attacks. If you want to solo AV which might be hard for a /Elec then I would say yes that is too many attacks...but if you just want to run TF and just normal stuff then that is find...remember as long as it is fun to you nothing is really wrong.
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Ok here is another option.
I am not sure about dark Consumption. Is it a waste with power sink? Is the slotting I have ok? Am I too attack heavy? I mean:
Shadow Punch, Smite, Shadow Maul, Siphon LIfe, Midnight Grasp Is this stupid ?
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Desmodas I13: Level 50 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Dark Melee
Secondary Power Set: Electric Armor
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Fighting
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Smite- (A) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage: Level 30
- (3) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance: Level 30
- (3) Touch of Death - Damage/Recharge: Level 30
- (5) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 30
- (5) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 30
- (46) Touch of Death - Chance of Damage(Negative): Level 30
- (A) Impervium Armor - Resistance: Level 30
- (7) Impervium Armor - Resistance/Endurance: Level 30
- (7) Impervium Armor - Resistance/Recharge: Level 30
- (9) Impervium Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge: Level 30
- (A) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage: Level 30
- (11) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Endurance: Level 30
- (11) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Recharge: Level 30
- (13) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 30
- (13) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 30
- (25) Damage Increase IO: Level 50
- (A) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
- (15) Mako's Bite - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
- (15) Mako's Bite - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (17) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- (36) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- (39) Mako's Bite - Chance of Damage(Lethal): Level 50
- (A) Flight Speed IO: Level 35
- (A) Touch of the Nictus - Healing: Level 30
- (9) Touch of the Nictus - Accuracy/Healing: Level 30
- (19) Touch of the Nictus - Heal/HitPoints/Regeneration/Recharge: Level 30
- (19) Touch of the Nictus - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge: Level 30
- (21) Pounding Slugfest - Accuracy/Damage: Level 30
- (21) Pounding Slugfest - Damage/Recharge: Level 30
- (A) Aegis - Psionic/Status Resistance: Level 30
- (23) Aegis - Resistance: Level 30
- (23) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance: Level 30
- (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range: Level 30
- (27) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance: Level 30
- (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range: Level 30
- (17) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance: Level 30
- (A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%: Level 30
- (A) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery: Level 30
- (33) Miracle - +Recovery: Level 30
- (A) Performance Shifter - EndMod: Level 50
- (29) Endurance Modification IO: Level 50
- (33) Endurance Modification IO: Level 50
- (A) Impervium Armor - Resistance: Level 30
- (33) Impervium Armor - Resistance/Endurance: Level 30
- (34) Impervium Armor - Resistance/Recharge: Level 30
- (34) Impervium Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge: Level 30
- (A) Doctored Wounds - Heal: Level 50
- (25) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Recharge: Level 50
- (29) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- (31) Doctored Wounds - Recharge: Level 50
- (31) Doctored Wounds - Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- (34) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
- (A) Obliteration - Damage: Level 30
- (27) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 30
- (31) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge: Level 30
- (37) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage: Level 30
- (37) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 30
- (37) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 30
- (A) Run Speed IO: Level 50
- (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range: Level 30
- (40) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance: Level 30
- (A) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage: Level 30
- (36) Touch of Death - Chance of Damage(Negative): Level 30
- (40) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 40
- (42) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance: Level 30
- (42) Touch of Death - Damage/Recharge: Level 30
- (43) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 30
- (A) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod: Level 50
- (36) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Recharge: Level 50
- (40) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
- (A) Razzle Dazzle - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 30
- (39) Razzle Dazzle - Endurance/Stun: Level 30
- (39) Razzle Dazzle - Accuracy/Endurance: Level 30
- (43) Razzle Dazzle - Stun/Range: Level 30
- (46) Razzle Dazzle - Accuracy/Stun/Recharge: Level 30
- (A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
- (42) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
- (43) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
- (A) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 30
- (45) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 30
- (45) Eradication - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 30
- (45) Eradication - Damage/Recharge: Level 30
- (46) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
- (48) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (A) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance: Level 50
- (48) Aegis - Resistance: Level 50
- (48) Aegis - Resistance/Recharge: Level 50
- (A) Serendipity - Defense/Endurance: Level 40
- (50) Serendipity - Defense: Level 40
- (50) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance: Level 50
- (50) Luck of the Gambler - Defense: Level 50
Level 1: Brawl- (A) Empty
- (A) Empty
- (A) Empty
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Quote:It is but until Werner or Umbral, or the handful of others who KNOW what is happening at the code level writes a guide, at least I'll get a chance to see what they are playing.Originally Posted by Morbid Star
the idea seems kind'a redundant to me, as the guides useually have them in 'em and the boards are already polluted with builds so as it is
A lot of guides are, "This is what I did and had fun doing" type of write ups. Which is good but a little lacking in hard numbers to get the point across. -
You do know one of the reasons they had to change Electric armor and drop conserve power?
Its in a scrapper epic pool. -
Interesting build and quite different then what I expected. but I like your slotting choices.
and with I16 you can dust him off and change his laser beams color to match the dark theme -
Quote:Originally Posted by The_Coming_Storm
You still have a psi hole.
He just called you a Psihole!!!!
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Werner, I noticed you have a Dark Melee toon. can you post your power picks and slotting? Curious to see what you went with.
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Quote:Its true and it seems purple builds are a buffed orange set anyway. So I can work with that. Mostly what I am looking for are concepts in builds. Especially when you have something like siphon life, which can be slotted about 1000 different ways.Originally Posted by Nihilii
Unless specific budget limits are mentioned, I don't think it's reasonable to assume a build has to be within a specific price point. Everyone will have their own opinion on where to draw the line.
Personally, I like purples and use purples. I don't mind discussing low budget builds, but if nothing is mentioned* I'll assume unlimited money. I couldn't care less if our friend Joe will never be able to afford the builds I post, and I couldn't care less if Joe, as well as many or even most players, will never solo an AV, because soloing AVs and high end builds are stuff I like and stuff I like discussing here with other people who like that stuff.
* Of course, if the OP posts a build without any purple or PVP IO, or even without LotGs and uniques, it's sensible to assume he's implying he doesn't wish to spend that much money on the build, and I'll take that into consideration. -
Quote:If you put a build together that is full of purples, that rings of amateur to me. Only a complete noob is going to post a build 1% of the players are going to be able to use. Why pick one purple set over another? pick the wrong purple set and you gimp your toon, again amateur.Originally Posted by Negescape
To be honest, in my triumphant return to the game after a little bit of a hiatus, I've never seen builds from him. I've certainly seen builds from the forum regulars that think quite a bit of themselves (some unwarranted), but mostly I just see builds with as many purple sets as the poster can fit into it like purples suddenly make the build not amateurish.
But Some people have researched deeper into the design of the game and understand the numbers behind it etc. I am not one of those. I choose to defer to those who have. That doesn't mean I am blindly following what they are doing and I have been known to make my personal changes to builds. But it sure is nice to get a starting point of view. -
Quote:I like this comment and agree.Originally Posted by Novawulfe
This sounds like a nice idea, and I would love to share some of my /shield builds... I know I maybe, be the least known person here, but this would be a great way to make my mark and get a name for myself on the forums. As I've been saying lately, if all you look for is experience, where is the room for innovation. Cause you know, that with new blood comes new ideas.
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HOs. Too expensive for me
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Quote:Sounds good, tell us when you have it doneOriginally Posted by Rieze
This sounds like it would better suited on a web site so builds could compared side by side. Load it with spread sheet pop ups and links to printable versions and links pull it up on mids and/or sucker punch. Links to vids that show the builds in action too.
Ok Rieze sorry I left you out. I have seen your responses and know you have game, I just can't remember everyoneQuote:That way, people with lesser known names can show they know what they are doing.
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Quote:Bill, do you have eviscerate instead of shockwave? I am not to keen on shockwave but I hate the idea of eviscerate's activation time.Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba
From CoD:
It crits.Code:- 58.5 Negative damage (5% chance) If target is a minion
- 58.5 Negative damage (10% chance) If target is not a minion or player
Nightfall needs to be fixed. There's no way that it is properly balanced in relation to other cone attacks.
On test, I did run around with TT, NF, Torrent, Shockwave, Spin, Eviscerate... it was amusing, safe and painfully slow.
Scrappers should have been given Darkest Night just like brutes. -
Quote:Originally Posted by Fantomas
Would it be one huge thread or is there a way that we could effectively break it down somehow? I just think we could potentially end up with a lot of builds...just a thought.
It would need to be moderated but essentially make it like the current guides thread.
Broadsword/X
List all broadsword builds that have been submitted for posting, no matter the secondary
Dual Blades/X
etc.
then repeat it in reverse
X/Dark Armor
x/ Electric Armor
and so on.
this way we have a way to cross reference.
Who can submit? I leave that to the more experienced deciders, but if I want to know about Claws/SR there is only going to be about 2 or 3 builds I care about.
I hate to be elitist but I don't care what Joe blow uses. But if people like Umbral or Werner or BillZ or ClawsandEffect, people who understand the numbers and how to calculate stuff, its in my interest to see what they like or don't like etc. -
Just as we have scrapper guides and power discussions it would be neat to have a thread of compiled builds by the different Scrapper gurus. Bill, Werner, Umbral to name a few.
It would be a good goto resource to see how the more experienced players choose slots and stuff. -
Quote:Sounds good will look into it.Originally Posted by Nihilii
In my opinion, it's still worth enhancing Energize. It's a great heal and a great +regen power.
Dark Melee has some tough slotting choices and I have no experience with it.
Do I go 6 slots for the electric shields?
Looking for someone (Umbral) to post a Dark something build so I can look at his slotting choices for DM as a reference and will point me to what I will need to do in EA. -
Isn't Siphon Life going to be where I grab heals mostly from?
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I can't load a saved buid in St0n3y's mid but I am going to drop lighting shield and replace with shadow punch and take 4 slots from power sink. Wil post something later, perhaps.
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Here is my first shot at building a Dark Melee / Electric Armor toon. I was shooting for Softcapping at least Melee Def, I only got to 40%
I also have no clue what is the best way to slot Dark Melee attacks. i.e. Siphon Life I am not happy with what I have on it. I am also not sure of my overall slot strategy for Electric Armor.
Let me know what you guys come up with.
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.401
http://www.cohplanner.com/
Click this DataLink to open the build!
Level 50 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Dark Melee
Secondary Power Set: Electric Armor
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Smite- (A) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage: Level 30
- (3) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance: Level 40
- (5) Touch of Death - Damage/Recharge: Level 40
- (13) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 40
- (19) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 40
- (27) Touch of Death - Chance of Damage(Negative): Level 40
- (A) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance: Level 50
- (7) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Recharge: Level 50
- (15) Titanium Coating - Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- (40) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- (40) Titanium Coating - Resistance: Level 50
- (40) Titanium Coating - Endurance: Level 50
- (A) Obliteration - Damage: Level 50
- (3) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
- (5) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (13) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (17) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- (25) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage: Level 50
- (A) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
- (A) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance: Level 50
- (7) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Recharge: Level 50
- (17) Titanium Coating - Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- (39) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- (43) Titanium Coating - Resistance: Level 50
- (46) Titanium Coating - Endurance: Level 50
- (A) Touch of the Nictus - Accuracy/Healing: Level 50
- (9) Touch of the Nictus - Heal/HitPoints/Regeneration/Recharge: Level 50
- (9) Touch of the Nictus - Chance for Negative Energy Damage: Level 50
- (15) Pounding Slugfest - Accuracy/Damage: Level 30
- (19) Pounding Slugfest - Damage/Endurance: Level 30
- (25) Pounding Slugfest - Damage/Recharge: Level 30
- (A) Impervium Armor - Resistance/Endurance: Level 40
- (11) Impervium Armor - Resistance: Level 40
- (11) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance: Level 40
- (A) Defense Buff IO: Level 50
- (31) Defense Buff IO: Level 50
- (A) Run Speed IO: Level 50
- (A) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance: Level 40
- (A) Healing IO: Level 50
- (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End: Level 50
- (21) Performance Shifter - EndMod: Level 50
- (21) Endurance Modification IO: Level 50
- (A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
- (23) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
- (23) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
- (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range: Level 50
- (31) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance: Level 50
- (A) Obliteration - Damage: Level 50
- (27) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
- (29) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (29) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (39) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- (46) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage: Level 50
- (A) Run Speed IO: Level 50
- (A) Razzle Dazzle - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 30
- (31) Razzle Dazzle - Endurance/Stun: Level 30
- (34) Razzle Dazzle - Accuracy/Endurance: Level 30
- (37) Razzle Dazzle - Stun/Range: Level 30
- (39) Razzle Dazzle - Accuracy/Stun/Recharge: Level 30
- (A) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage: Level 40
- (33) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance: Level 40
- (33) Touch of Death - Damage/Recharge: Level 40
- (33) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 40
- (34) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 40
- (34) Touch of Death - Chance of Damage(Negative): Level 40
- (A) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod: Level 50
- (36) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Recharge: Level 50
- (36) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
- (36) Efficacy Adaptor - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
- (37) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Accuracy: Level 50
- (37) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Endurance: Level 50
- (A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%: Level 30
- (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff: Level 50
- (42) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge: Level 50
- (42) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge/Endurance: Level 50
- (42) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Recharge/Endurance: Level 50
- (43) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Endurance: Level 50
- (43) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up: Level 50
- (A) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- (45) Obliteration - Damage: Level 50
- (45) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
- (45) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (46) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (48) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage: Level 50
- (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End: Level 50
- (48) Performance Shifter - EndMod: Level 50
- (48) Endurance Modification IO: Level 50
- (A) Karma - Defense/Endurance: Level 30
- (50) Kismet - Defense/Endurance: Level 30
- (50) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Endurance: Level 40
- (50) Gift of the Ancients - Defense: Level 40
Level 1: Brawl- (A) Empty
- (A) Empty
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Thank you!
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Anyone have a good data file to punch into Mid's that included I16?
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I am waiting for I16 to drop. Will be going DM/Elec. Seems like a good mix.
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Quote:I am with Umbral on this one.Originally Posted by Umbral
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Since you can only have one proc, it appears that your best bet is to go 4 pieces of Performance Shifter in Quick Recovery, and 3 level 50 IOs in Stamina.
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The proc isn't unique. You can have one in each power. My recommendations still stand as the best.
A. he understands the minutiae of IO builds
B. It just makes sense.
C. I think two slots in Stam outweighs the 2.5% recovery from 4 set perf. (But I could be wrong)
I run with 1 perf proc, 1 perf stam, one stam with my claws/SR. I run 3 SR toggles, 1 weave, 1 CJ with no end problems.