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I believe the Devs have already stated that in Praetoria, things aren't exactly the same as on Primal Earth, and the people there aren't all "ebil twins".

Some things are incredibly different, no Lord Recluse in Praetoria, Ghost Widow never died and became attached to arachnos etc.

Some people are good in Praetoria and Primal Earth, some people are ebil in both places too.

It's not as simple as "everyone in praetoria gets a goatee and becomes the opposite clone of the person in Primal earth."

All that being said, their is no reason Calvin Scott couldn't look very different in praetorian earth. Especially with the revamps they have done to some of the other characters, (Marauder etc.)



Also, on another note.

I find it both somewhat amusing and kind of sad that the Devs are being blamed for people's rampant unwarranted speculation on a TEASER picture... As if the Devs are to be faulted for what people speculated and assumed based on one screen shot.

This is like people who get mad about how many errors are in a movie based on the teaser trailer. It's amazing to me how few facts people need before they start getting pissed about something they have almost no information about.

I'd love light up costume pieces, and when I saw that pic I immediately got happy for the thought of it, but it took all of 2 seconds for my girlfriend to say "That looks like an NPC, don't get your hopes up." And even if she hadn't said that, I would still have waited for more info.

I honestly just don't see how the Devs are on the hook for this. People complain about a lack of info on GR then when they get info on GR they are ticked that they made the wrong assumptions...

So Jay. That is our bad. I'll own up to it. We jumped to a conclusion and we didn't even have a good mat to do it on. However, if we did error it was because of two things.

A.) We all collectively find you so sexy and irresistible that we go crazy and lose all sorts of self control and logical thinking when it comes to you and your work, and we do silly things like a school girl with a crush.

B.) We love new things that are shiny. Luminescent costume pieces would be both very new and very shiny.

So the combination of going all GaGa at seeing your latest work and the image of new shiny objects, made us Squee prematurely. Forgive us please. Our error is one born out of love.

Now that I have owned up to it for the community, I ask only this. Light up costume parts please. We see that they can be done on NPCs and I think many of us would love the chance to have them on our Heroes, Villains, Rogues, Vigelantes, Resistance Members and Praetorians. They don't have to be just like the ones on that NPC, but light up costumes would be Amazing, and if such a thing is even possible, make us all find you even more sexy than we already do...

Because it is not at all being used at the moment and it could potentially impact things like loading time and zone geometry since it's one more thing, albeit a small thing, the server and the player's comp have to deal with.

They can keep the data from the object and still not have it be in the game. They can save all that data on another disk or off server without having it in the live game, and still pull it up to be used later.


Assuming it is sharing resources with something else in the game at all. It was meant to be used with the Arena but the Arena system was built to bypass it completely. If it is sharing resources with something else in the game, all the more reason to pull it out so those resources are more dedicated to what ever else is using them.

Valid point except they did kill all the possible references and decouple it from anything else in the game it might affect. The room is sitting below the map, the doors don't work, no way to access it and it is so completely removed from the game that many people didn't know, and still don't know it's their. It was viewed as an urban legend by the OP, so it's obviously not something easily stumbled upon. They've decoupled it from the game already, what's the point in having it sit their?


I want to mention, I'm not advocating it be removed, far from. I'd advocate they let it stay and put it to use. I think it's a great room and I love little things like this in games. I've scoured many games I enjoyed looking for little things that the DEV team never fully used but left behind in the code for some reason or other.

I was simply stating I was very curious as to why something like this, so completely un-used in the game has been left to float below Peregrine Island for years through countless updates and issues and never was fully removed. In fact I'm still curious about it. The points you made above are valid, but they aren't the reason.

Also, thank you for setting me straight on when the Arena came out. So it's not been their 5 years yet, but it's getting close.

I told you not to mention that publicly. Now how am I supposed to get the DEVs to keep letting me in on their inside info when you run around blabbing everything I share with you?

Just so everyone knows, apparently they already have the strike team in place to take down the Rogue new hires. Uzbekistan has agreed to extradite, the money should be back soon and Going Rogue will be back on track.

That is all.

I agree with the majority of your post and your sentiment but I think you are wrong here. My understanding of the whole Going Rogue announcement being sent "early" was a matter of hours, not months. The marketing team sent it out late on night when it wasn't supposed to be sent out until the next day. They had the press release and other things ready by then.

If you have contradicting info that states the announcement really wasn't supposed to be made until Hero Con, please share, I'd really like to see it.

Also I just can't believe they would wait until Hero con to make that announcement. After all they talked about going into Beta during Q1 of this year, waiting until Q4 of last year to announce something that close to Beta, doesn't seem to jive for the release of a Boxed Expansion. That sort of thing is a big deal and they are usually announced with more than just 3 or 4 before things start rolling into Beta.

I think it'd be great for a TF in that case. Hey you got to this room with cool stuff and several un marked doors. Several of these doors lead to traps, only one leads to the goal\boss\way out etc. If a team successful defeats the traps, they get teleported back to that room and have to pick again. Could be fun.

Even if I did, and I'm not saying I do, I don't think I'd want to admit to such publicly.

Yes.

Actually my first reaction when reading through this thread was to say something very similar to this.

Some one else brought up poker, so I will continue with that.

I started a weekly poker game with my co-workers a couple months ago. People show up and buy in for 10$ and we usually get a pot around 100$ or more going by the end of the night after re-buys and what not. Now we pretty much all play to win. We all want the cash and we all do our best to take each others chips. None of us cheat, (to the best of my knowledge,) but we do try and take the pot by the end of the night. It can get fairly competitive especially with those of us who have been playing a while and we really like to just go for it.

However even with money at stake, the game never gets mean or dis-respectful. Sure their are some friendly insults or jabs tossed across the table at times, and even the best of us get frustrated when we lose a bad hand, but after 3 months of doing this weekly with a couple new people coming in from time to time, no one has ever been nearly as harsh on each other as say in a fairly mild game of online Halo. At the end of the game, we all still hang out or talk or shake hands or what ever, and though we go for the money, it's never gotten ugly, out of hand, no one has ever left the table out of anger etc.

So the point being, is that you can play competitively, and play to win and still be a nice person, be a good sport, be a good loser and a good winner. However that all takes a modicum of class and civility, and frankly a lot of people, when given the shield of anonymity provided by the internet and online games in general, tend to feel they can and should say or do what ever they want. This leads to people being complete jerks and really very foul and vulgar when I think a large number of them would never act that way if they were face to face with you.

Q2? Really I thought it was supposed to be late Q1.. Am I remembering that wrong, or did something change?

This is a cool list and I certainly learned a couple things from it. Though I feel like a lot of it is more common knowledge than some might think.

However the things I quoted above, to be fair, are really only very recently possible. Before the removal of zone caps as a part of Super Side Kicking, Level ones couldn't go to RWZ or FBZ.


Still a very cool list, we should keep adding to it.


Also I had no idea about the moon, that's strange. Wonder if that's why their are so many attacks by zombies, the moons all out of whack.