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Storm's shortcommings were written into the script. They're even more glaring in the novelizations of X1 and X2. Singer also gave Jean Grey the shaft. Even if Berry wasn't playing Storm, the character would have still be shafted. If there is one thing I liked about X3 is that the characters bloody used their powers, not correctly, but they still used their powers.

Storm and Jean Grey getting beaten around by Toad of all characters...ugh.

Singer didn't want Storm to be in the movies but the Studio and Marvel insisted and it shows. Singer's heroines are victims: Jean Grey, Lois Lane, Storm, Rogue, they are all crap compared to Mystique and Lex's snappy henchwoman. Only men and villains get to take control in his movies and it shows.

Oh, and in the comics, Storm gets into fist fights a lot. She pulled Marrow's heart out of her chest, stabbed Callisto in the heart with a dagger and beat down Crimson Commando, as well as getting into a mass cat fight with a harem of alien wives.

My biggest gripe about the X movies is that they are essentially Wolverine movies with guest stars and the characters I like are not just given short shrift, they are turned into powerless idiots and damsels in distress even though they are nothing like that in the comics.

Of course, comic wise after the last 10 years of the character assassination of Professor Xavier and the convenient amnesia concerning Emma Frost's role in the creation of Dark Phoenix, I've become inured to sudden bizzare changes in my X-Canon. The deaths in X3 didn't bother me because they're easily retconnable, especially people who died off panel.

It was also rebooting the franchise, which is a much smaller risk. Also, Singer isn't directing, he's only producing. If anything the director gets more leeway for doing such a good job with Kick *** and having an extremely tight production and release schedule.

X3 did what it was supposed to do: make a lot of money and bookend that part of the franchise.

Wolverine underperformed X3, even though it and X3 had the same production budget, of course it's going to have changes made, but that's not the fans, that's the economics.

Arguably, Wolverine was also hurt by the massive leak of the film. But still, Wolverine underperformed X3 at the global box offfice by nearly a hundred million and nearly twenty five million on DVD sales.

Fans can pad a gross, but Fox has realized that the mainstream audience's interest is paramount to making something a success. If anything the new Scott Pilgrim thread indicates is that geeks and fans are nice, but if you cater to them your movie will take a big hit.

X3 made more money than X2. It is a success for the studios. Only the fanboys hate it (and hated it since Ratner signed on) and the hate did not affect the box office. If the mainstream movie going public likes FC, then expect more flashbacks.

You mean the Crusaders.

Although I do need a spoiler.....

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If you choose to follow Marchand's orders and arrest Calvin Scott at the Enriche plant, can you actually do it or are you horribly stymied by a stupid teleporter?

PM me the answer if you are not comfortable with posting it. I've done it one way and now I'm looking down the abyss of choice.

Continuting the off topic ness...the 80's had no web design. We had 900 baud modems Kermit and BBs' and we were grateful.

You mean "refugee from the 90's."

The game itself says that the PPD makes people dissappear. The Resistance isn't just revenge revenge revenge, it's anger that the victimization is unacknowledged. And really, it's true. It takes effort to get under the skin of Praetoria.

The PPD do their own share of mass murdering They just have better PR than the Resistance.

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As for Hamidon, Cole uses DE to create object lessons. I seriously doubt Hamidon is actually threat anymore unless he IS Cole.

This is the badge info for Dissappeared:

" This is where enemies of the State vanish forever. These lost souls have been brought here from the PPD Headquarters for summary execution without review or recourse."

This is the Badge info for "Knows the Truth"

"From the depths of the Underground to the top of the Magisterium, Praetoria is built on lies. After 50 badges, you've learned this truth."

It isn't obvious. Of course if it was there wouldn't be threads like this.

Not the point. It's there, in the the game. If you want to, you can find it, but it takes effort...or getting lost.

Edit: And there is a badge attached to the location: "Disappeared."

I'm trying that with a blaster.

*Luke Skywalker whine*

That's not true! That unpossible! *ugh still can't get the appropriate level of whine.*

You haven't found the PPD execution chambers in the Nova underground yet have you?

I have this terrible image in my head of Alejandro and Heather from the Total Drama series shaking hands and starting an alliance.

And not all Loyalists are doing it for mom, Cole and Enriche pie (like my new character Konscript, inspired by this very thread). It evens out.

Jackhammer is nothing like the other Post Nova Crusaders, except maybe Hatchet. Plus the drugs belonged to the Praetors first. You take possession and can decide on their disposition. They only belong to Jackhammer if you give them to him.

If anything, I do that story arc just to screw over Jackhammer...and to make sure I'm in a position to take on Reese.

Yeah, that's why I am increasingly believing that the Resistance is just another element of the system, a somewhat effective means of isolating disruptive agents and putting them to use reinforcing the dream of Praetoria for the rest of the population.

However, I am still a bit concerned about what happens to men who have the Praetorian Epic Archetype potential that allows them to be a Seer. Are then just off the network and in cold storage? Or are they in cold storage as Psychic Bombs in case the DE get too unruly?

However Praetoria takes things to a rather ludicrous extreme...but then again, people in Russia miss the Soviet Union.

I think in the end I'm "On Primal's Side." Get your damn dirty Praetorian fingers offa my Urth.

It's just GG generates a lot of Anti-Resistance feeling because of her unyielding stance and tendency to post alot.

Actually it seems that the playerbase is acutely aware of what the Resistance does and less aware of what the Loyalists do on a daily, since more often than not, you have to play find out all of the dirt. (Well that and if GG posts the litany, people are more likely to say "So what, we're safe. Screw those guys.")

On the surface, the player base is told, "Cole bad." We start to play and its, "Wow preeeeety, Cole not so bad. OMFG Resistance nutz." And in Nova that is the truth unless you literally run around underground and start badge hunting.

Based on these threads I tend to think most players who post are Loyalists at heart and float towards stability. The Resistance is scary, and outside of Nova, the contacts are pissed and not mere thrill seekers and in game, we get the full brunt of the propaganda and the reality.

Uni-track play also influences it a bit. In the whole "make more alts" culture of Cox, It takes multiple runs to get the whole picture. It is never visible to an individual unless they're going to drop out of the progression and snoop around before they outlevel the content. Hell event then, a single non moral choice conversation branch can cast a whole new light on a mission. I found that out during a chat with Devore, who has amped my fear of Mother Mayhem just a bit more.