Ex_Libris

Ok, sounds like 2.3 fixed the major problems, but let me comment on the other problems people are having:

-Chat Window Spam. I've turned off all damage and system text to the chat window, so I don't see this. And I'll never be able to do anything with the "readying sprint instead of super speed"... but if you don't have SS for any characters, don't type Super Speed in as a primary power, and that'll cut it down a little. As for what looks like Help messages from the game telling us how to actually use bind, not sure why that's coming up, but I'll look into it next week.

- Oaken Filipino, are you typing SUPER SPEED in for the Primary Run Power? I used to have it as a default, but I figured there were more players without a SS Char than with, so you have to type the power name SUPER SPEED explicitly now. Seems to be working for Greyhawke, so give it a try.

- Next version, sometime next week, I'll add that last line to my bind files to prevent some of that bind_load spam.

- Falling out of sky when fighting. Yes, it's because you're queuing another power, so just don't do that Seriously though, you also are losing your hover defense bonus, and getting an Accuracy penalty, so don't do it. Stand your ground and fight. And when you decide to move, stop fighting (binds usually cancel any queued powers anyway, and move, then stop to fight again.

So, it looks like they're finally in a more stable state, and I can leave changes until Monday. Thanks for the positive comments, they're always nice to hear since we've all put a lot of work into these binds. And if I remember back to when I first came to this thread... Man, I LOVE flying. It's why I got this game. And with these binds, of any flavor, I can spend lots of time just zooming around exploring

Anyway, I hope you all do enjoy them, and kick lots of villain butt.

Gnarly

Another two bits....

re: Baine-

Basically, think up a personality for your character (easiest way would be to put yourself in your hero's shoes. ie- think of how you would react to a situation, then have your hero react the same way). Then just stick with that personality.

re: GungHo_Jane-

I've no doubt that there would be people willing to play on such a server. However, think about this-

To do all that, Cryptic would need to buy new server hardware, add code to the game for your suggestions, hire mods and designers, and have a separate test server for it.

And while we have no way of knowing how much $$$ that really is, I'd think that its probably more than would be gained from the new people playing on this "heavy RP" server.

Ok, I'm done now. no more bits from me

So how do you exactly start roleplaying?

Hmmm?

Do you randomly go up to some person and splew off some stuff?

Do you talk to yourself in broadcast channel?

Solarhaphaeriom doesn't roleplay, he's too busy being a hero. Who has time for games when there are so many challenges to overcome in Paragon?
If any of you fellow roleplayers are looking for an SG, Aurorae will welcome any one of you that doesn't play an antihero, i.e. no hell-bent vampires or demons in our heroic group, please.

I put it there as the only thing...

Just post a demo Fifth Element.

[ QUOTE ]
dance - randomly does one of a few dances, for the sake of my sanity, I won't bother trying to describe them.

[/ QUOTE ]

I can describe them.

One of them is basically the Rockaway with a different hand position (balled into fists in front of you instead of crossed arms or hands at your sides). One is kind of a headbanger at a concert dance. One is The Humpty Dance. One is Rerun's dance (from the old TV series 'What's Happening'). The last one (that I've seen, at least) I can only describe as "The Dance of the Rhythm-less (or the Rhythmicly challenged, if you prefer)". The one where you have your fists balled up near your ears and you're basically just swaying from side to side.

Okay Ive made demogion head to speak in the wmv. (Hes gate keeper of souls. Human Head small horns from forhead lives in fire and stone.) Here my problem I need any one knows free program to do voice I dont whant him sounding like me I sound very light on Mic. Any one got ideas for a program

Glad to hear it. I'm also glad you entered this without concentrating on the multiple stereotypes about RPers (mostly created because of those hardcore extremist RPers that seem to stand out more than the majority of us. ) I hope it all works out well for you, I have a feeling you're going to have a lot of fun (not to mention seriously increase the lifespan of City of Heroes for yourself).

Well I think it's lame and stupid when people run around named "Son of Satan" or something, but just being possessed isn't necessarily offensive. At least I don't think so. Heck, the leader of the Knights of Paragon gained his powers by accidentally sharing his body with a demon.

Yeah, but that wouldn't really work for people who want an in-character profile. I think that if you have a detailed bio with plenty of backstory, then people will usually assume you're a roleplayer before anything else.

Fyre glances over at Sly Fox and Deth, and does a double take. Sly is wiping blood off of the unconsious woman's face, and there is a small girl with a large head wound sitting in the chair he had previously been occupying.
"Whoa, what happened?!"
Danny begins to walk over, but then stops, confused as to why the little girl is so calm while blood runs down her face from serious damage to her head.
"Uh...did I miss something?"
Danny stands, looking awkward and wondering whether he should try to help the girl.

Jigga What?

First off: you have no clue what build I went with, when I created my character, or what plans I have for my character. You have no right to sit there and assume that I have 'followed the shepard'. I simply stated the he helped me plan out my character. I never said that 'You are perfect, there is no other way to play!'.

As for your analogy working, PHAH! You compare ideas of how the universe works, to something that was MADE BY MAN? There is no comparing a game world's functions to that of man's belief in his surroundings. Yes, people tend to follow the popular belief, but when a game has said parameters, those parameters do not differ. You can come back and say that games have bugs, etc. And yes they do, but the basic game functions do not differ upon the observer. They are programmed in and if there were others that felt that you were correct in the way the game works I am sure that they would have posted by now.

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Find it interesting how one person can be so right, when multiple qualified others are saying that the game works a different way.

Maybe he is just playing a different game than everyone else?

[/ QUOTE ]

Right, and only one of them is an electricity blaster... The subject at hand. Funny isn't it

Using that methodology, you would have been the the majority who told Einstein that his theory of Relativity was outrageous. Or that the Wright brothers were crazy to think they could fly because Everyone else told them it wasn't possible..... Good work

[/ QUOTE ]

LARGE difference here from Einstein’s theories. If you can't understand that the game is built with rules of how things work, and equate your feelings towards the rules being different for you as you being of genius level intelligence than I feel sorry for you and hope that you seek help sometime in the future.

[ QUOTE ]
Fifth_Element, I decided to put this stun thing to rest once and
for all. I made a new electric blaster, picked lightning bolt,
and took all of 5 minutes against the contaminated to prove it is
just a graphics effect. I shot the first one. He immediately shot
me back. I shot lots of mobs, they always shot me back. I went
close for the aggro so I could shoot at different times during
their attack sequence. You know, let them shoot, wait for a bit,
then shoot them so the shake starts at various amounts of time
before their next shot recycled. When I waited until just before
their attack to shoot, they shook for an instant then shot me
right on schedule. I shot right after their attack. They shook
for a couple seconds because they had no attack come up to
interrupt it. Every time their attack would recycle, they shot
me, regardless of if they were shaking or not and for how long
they'd been shaking.

[/ QUOTE ]

Thank you RSR for this intelligent, indisputable post. And thank you for creating such a comprehensive thread that has helped me greatly on planning out my character.

Good luck to all!

[/ QUOTE ]

This is a joke.

Your seriously assessing the situation of an entire blaster based upon 5 minutes in a biased test sample being at such a low level?

The fact of the matter is, because someone had ideas on what to do, you followed, and for that insight are greatful. Does that necessarily mean thats the best way to do things?
Does that mean that anyone else has ideas?

In your mind, since thats the first voice you heard, and you can EASILY see why it appears to be a good idea, it must be.

RSRobinson makes a low level character, with access to 3 powers... and then comes to a conclusion that the endurance drain found on the electricity nukes does not stun/sleep in anyway. Well guys, it seems hes figured out the ENTIRE class!

I mean So sayeth the shepard, so sayeth the flock right!?

Baldrec, there is no difference in the analogy i made concerning Einstein or anything else. The major point is that the populous (you, and the penut gallery) were sorely wrong. Hence the use of the term sorely.

Was the world flat?
Then why did everyone believe it to be so?

Its called he said she said...

designate the time, i work full time but me or my friends will log on at an agreed upon time (freedom server) It seems I have become the designated poster on our behalf.

Its a shame though.... I'm certain you will write a guide on this too, and then this build will too be talk of the town, and you will have countless peons on these forums asking for advice and pm'ing you on what skills to take

[ QUOTE ]
All I can say is it took me five minutes to show this to be
nothing more than a graphics effect. Yet you claim to be level
40. I can give you the benefit of the doubt. Most mobs die in a
couple hits, so I assume most of the time you see them shake for
an instant between the time your first nuke hits and the second
nuke hits killing them. Yet you also claim to have seen Bitter
Freeze Ray and Burst interrupted. That too will not happen. I'll
still give you the benefit of the doubt. Maybe you just thought
the attack had started but due to lag it didn't get to the server
in time so you just assumed it did start and was interrupted when
in fact it just never happened in the first place.

[/ QUOTE ]

You obviously read the post concerning mob attack recycle times and were convinced it was true because it sounded logical.... Like Tsoo teleporting through walls and such.

Make your character on the Freedom Server. Let us specify a time and place so others can come too. I will log my elec blaster, and chain stun a mob indefinately till it dies... it will not get 1 attack off.

When this does occur, I want an apology on these forums, and I want you to pubicly state that you had no idea how to produce such a result and had no idea that the result grows with level and such and is dependant on a certain enhancement.

Also I'd like you to put to rest your ideas of PVP and what you think you know, or what you think you have done. Then ill show you most of the chars I have access to, some might be currently played but ill have them send you tells... about 12 in total ....

All of this under the condition you come back here, and let the readers know that you were wrong, along with the other non elec blasters.

I really hate giving things away.... I'm afraid the masses will assimilate

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Find it interesting how one person can be so right, when multiple qualified others are saying that the game works a different way.

Maybe he is just playing a different game than everyone else?

[/ QUOTE ]

Right, and only one of them is an electricity blaster... The subject at hand. Funny isn't it

Using that methodology, you would have been the the majority who told Einstein that his theory of Relativity was outrageous. Or that the Wright brothers were crazy to think they could fly because Everyone else told them it wasn't possible..... Good work

[/ QUOTE ]

LARGE difference here from Einstein’s theories. If you can't understand that the game is built with rules of how things work, and equate your feelings towards the rules being different for you as you being of genius level intelligence than I feel sorry for you and hope that you seek help sometime in the future.

[ QUOTE ]
Fifth_Element, I decided to put this stun thing to rest once and
for all. I made a new electric blaster, picked lightning bolt,
and took all of 5 minutes against the contaminated to prove it is
just a graphics effect. I shot the first one. He immediately shot
me back. I shot lots of mobs, they always shot me back. I went
close for the aggro so I could shoot at different times during
their attack sequence. You know, let them shoot, wait for a bit,
then shoot them so the shake starts at various amounts of time
before their next shot recycled. When I waited until just before
their attack to shoot, they shook for an instant then shot me
right on schedule. I shot right after their attack. They shook
for a couple seconds because they had no attack come up to
interrupt it. Every time their attack would recycle, they shot
me, regardless of if they were shaking or not and for how long
they'd been shaking.

[/ QUOTE ]

Thank you RSR for this intelligent, indisputable post. And thank you for creating such a comprehensive thread that has helped me greatly on planning out my character.

Good luck to all!

[ QUOTE ]
If flying in a direction, and I hit a power (I'm a blaster, so an attack power, usually), I will sometimes plummet from the air down to the MOB I'm attacking. Needless to say, this can be a little hairy. It usually happens if I press the power just before I've let up on the direction key or just as I let up on the direction key.


[/ QUOTE ]

Pretty sure there is no way around this. I am willing to bet this happens when you go from a standstill, hit a direction button, then immediately hit another power. In that case the bind is turning off hover and queuing fly to turn on. Then by hitting the power so soon, you cause fly to be thrown out before it goes off and instead queue the power you hit, which ends up going off.. while you plummet to the ground because fly got thrown out.

With all binds of this nature involving "automagically" turning on powers for you, you have to be careful and rather deliberate in your button pushing or this will happen. You can prevent the different bound keys from interfering with each other in this way (as pretty much all the work on these bind sets has been doing lately), but throw unknown power activations in the mix and there's no way around it except to avoid the situation.

My two bits-

For about the last 6 months, I've played on a pesistant world NWN server (City of Arabel). something like 15 DMs/scripters...anyway, a lot of your points were implimented in the server.

Was the RP amazingly fun? yes.

Did it welcome new/casual RPers? Not very well. Repeatedly, newer players kept mentioning that it all was a bit daunting.

now, granted that the server only ran with 55 people at a time (though it was full almost 24/7)...but increase both the number of total and casual players and you basically have a good model for a MMORPG.

Basically, such rules seem to work well with small groups and not so well with large player-bases (to me at least).

though I do like the idea of tagging Virtue as the "official" RP server.

The locals sure are pushy indeed. Try any self-rooting power and see what happens. One of the first times I turned on "Unyielding Stance" was just as a bunch of pedestrians was coming by. I was laughing too hard to turn my power off and get out of the way. After all, there's nothing quite so humiliating for a young hero as having a couple of little old ladies absent-mindedly pushing you down the street. "Unyielding" indeed.

Come to think of it, I want the "Pedestrian" powerset on my next character. These folks are superstrong and invulnerable - they get repeatedly attacked by villains for arbitrary periods and never take damage, can jump off of any building safely, and can push immobile objects around. Sign me up!

[ QUOTE ]
Find it interesting how one person can be so right, when multiple qualified others are saying that the game works a different way.

Maybe he is just playing a different game than everyone else?

[/ QUOTE ]

Right, and only one of them is an electricity blaster... The subject at hand. Funny isn't it

Using that methodology, you would have been the the majority who told Einstein that his theory of Relativity was outrageous. Or that the Wright brothers were crazy to think they could fly because Everyone else told them it wasn't possible..... Good work

Fifth_Element, can you post your Ice/Energy build here? I'd like to see it cause I'm starting one myself.

And also, why isnt there any comprehensive Ice blaster thread out there? Geeze..

[ QUOTE ]
Fifth_element;


[ QUOTE ]
Again you avoid the topic of PVP between an ice vs elec... Why? You only continue to drag out the intricacies of a spell and not talk about its implications on PVP which is how this argument originally started. Your hiding behind other concepts and issues which could be dragged on forever, and ofcourse you are aware of this

[/ QUOTE ]


Are you going to comment on why i've never been "stunned" or unable to act when fighting electric powered mobs? Crey Voltaic tanks, clockworks, freakshow juicers among them. I've never stopped moving while running and getting hit by electric blasts from NPCs, i've never had a power stop firing when hit by them either, or anything else. This IS relevant to your own ice vs elec pvp fight, because i've yet to see any type of stun as you seem to imply occuring with electric powerset. Are you going to ignore everyone else's post saying the same thing?

That's all i have for you now, the rest is seriously not worth the effort, its clear nothing will budge you from whatever stance you're in (since you waffle around those as well).

If you respond with another circuitous arguement that ignores what i've just posted, you've proven beyond a doubt every one of my suspicions.

But i'll answer this in parting:

[ QUOTE ]
2. Yes, the BFR is easily interrupable... Have you ever fired a status effect on a monster that fired a status effect on you at the same time. You hear the effect occur, but you never were under any condition of the effect

[/ QUOTE ]

Actually, i've been in a sleep from a Crey Protector's freeze cannon at the same time as i had it ice cubed. (Yes its a boss, but i had applied freeze ray before hand)

[/ QUOTE ]

Ok this is the last one for me too.. Sorry for clouding this original thread. I truly am

Ice, the problem inherent at the base of your plea, is that you attribute the fact that NPC monsters dont STUN you, Thus you CANT stun them. This line of logic is incorrect. I think using your Tsoo reference of them being able to TP through walls where as Pc's can't does this situation justice.

Its something they do, that we don't.

Furthermore, it appears that you were using that line of logic as a guideline for the 'stun' that occurs when you get shocked by an elec nuke.... which again, as i pointed out to several others who have no grasp on the electricity blaster type, doesn't mean it doesn't exist because the poster hasn't experienced it.

In closing, you will find and perhaps not always, that the 'stun/sleep' effect im describing upon inflicting an elec nuke can occur. For some its not a usual occurance... This is only because of a difference in slotting.

Elec casting mobs do not stun me either Ice (unless tesla'd), but I do stun them. Others have admitted to the shocking effect but percieve it as a graphic only. This cannot be true, because even if you were unable to completely stun a mob 1v1, you can atleast stun it for a few spells... something greater than a duration of 5 seconds..... During that duration, the fact that is taking no agressive action toward the player proves that there is some stun present.

How to achieve greater stun results? Well you could have asked me, instead of refuted

Find it interesting how one person can be so right, when multiple qualified others are saying that the game works a different way.

Maybe he is just playing a different game than everyone else?

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
1. The Hold effect of BFR is instant, the dmg is not. Understand this difference, and stop making cheap references and examples which have NOTHING to do with the usefulness of that spell in PVP purposes, which was an original argument of ours and RSRobinson

[/ QUOTE ]

Cheap references? You mean proving its uninterruptible doesn't mean anything to your "all attacks are interruptible" stance? You've got to be one of the most easily pigheaded people i've run across. Also, in the heat of a fight and on fleeing mobs, the hold does not land until the damage is applied, but you know, that's to hard to prove obviously.

[ QUOTE ]
2. Your STILL in an animated pose, even IF the effect lands. While the point is to place the hold, the animation is long and I hope I do not have to explain to you the meaning of this

[/ QUOTE ]

Wait wait, first you chat on about how the 3.7 second anim makes it easily interruptible, now you change why its bad to be the duration of the animation with it having nothing to do with interruption? Pick a stance already!

[ QUOTE ]
My Ice/energy is 36. I have 4 char's post 31. I have access to 2 other accounts with lots of other post 30 chars. Simply questioning my understanding of the game, because you can't retort directly to ANY of the original subjects we were discussing is YOUR deficiency, not mine.

[/ QUOTE ]

Oh yeah, claiming things on a message board is most definately a claim to your e-manhood. I could claim anything i want here about my characters and you would be none the wiser too.

[ QUOTE ]
Your obviously angry because you can't continue to argue any of the original subjects we were discussing. I will stop entertaining you because you continue to steer your arguments elsewhere in the lack of any real refute to the orignial argument about Elec blasters being able to prevent you from casting.

[/ QUOTE ]

Clockworks have never kept me from acting except when they land tesla cage. And according to you they follow the same rules as PC... so... oh, their powers are also named the same as PC elec blasts.. lightning bolt, charged bolt, tesla cage...

I've also responded to your posts about interruptions, so making your own grandiose claims about me steering in a different direction hold as much water as a seive considering you talked about it yourself.

[ QUOTE ]
I have more, and have acces to even more end game characters than you will most likely realize in the next year. Do not ascertain to that with which you have no idea of.....

[/ QUOTE ]

Hahahaha.

"My e-manhood is bigger than your e-manhood!"


Edit:

[ QUOTE ]
PLEASE.... Can ANYONE please tell me WHY, most of my enemies DO NOT ATTACK me back?

[/ QUOTE ]

Probably because they took their shot and are waiting on recycles. You may be surprised just how slow some of them recycle.

[/ QUOTE ]

Iceshrike i'd like to first state that you invovle personal attacks into your criticims of others' arguements which often clouds your ability to be clear and concise while mainting any sort of premise.

1. You have not proved its uninterruptible. Again, If i see no dmg, or a miss, have i been interrupted? Where did my spell go? refute this

2. Yes, the BFR is easily interrupable... Have you ever fired a status effect on a monster that fired a status effect on you at the same time. You hear the effect occur, but you never were under any condition of the effect. Also, if you note those occurances, they most likely occured because you fired simultaneously at the enemy. You have not, and as such, can't understand or are open to acceptance of this fact.

3. Either you are jealous, or are in dis-belief. Anyhow you take it, I listed my character selection so that you might perhaps take my arguments seriously. Obviously you do not, and are some gimp who can't understand why I have more and you have less. Bottom Line

Again you avoid the topic of PVP between an ice vs elec... Why? You only continue to drag out the intricacies of a spell and not talk about its implications on PVP which is how this argument originally started. Your hiding behind other concepts and issues which could be dragged on forever, and ofcourse you are aware of this