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Quote:oh yeah I know. Not particularly directed at you but in reply to what you said but forgot how to double quote to the one you replied to.Originally Posted by I Burnt The Toast
Oh I am not doing an emulator LOL! I am morally against them as they are nothing but stealing. Professionally I could not be involved with one if I even wanted to - I am a Federal employee, and well I value my job way more than a game.
The emulator is the main reason I no longer participate in anything Titan related. NO Titan is not endorsing an emulator, but a few key people at Titan are knowingly working on it. I refuse to be associated with such a thing or any group that takes part in it.
Yeah, illegal=not worth it.
I'm a federal employee too and I'd be damned if I even think about risking being linked with that type of illegal activity. Even if I wasnt a fed., still it's illegal and wrong. I dont like people stealing my stuff, so I dont steal theirs, whether's it's for the "greater good" or not.
I dont deal with Titan because a few of them in power are a little nuts and yeah that emulator thing and the other stuff over there. It's coming off as desperate now and front like they are making a big ripple in something. They are too being mostly ignored by NCSoft and I dont think NCSoft really fear them but wouldnt be surprised if they have people watching every move just waiting for them to cross that line from the planning side onto the actual illegal action side and then pounce. I think Titan actually did everything in their power to antagonize NCsoft instead of trying a real attempt at communication. Trying to open a line of communication usually dont involve harassing the other party whether by mail, email or capes or other crap. At first it was crazy but seemed like there was some semblence of organization. Now it's like one of those backyard churches where the preacher is telling everyone the outside world is the Devil and they still burn anyone at the stake for anything that dont go with the "preacher's" view. -
Quote:True and possible, but that is the risk with or without COX. Maybe that is what they are gearing up for with the money they may get from a tax thingy off the IP. Which thye might turn into finance a bit for a new game.Originally Posted by MrHassenpheffer
All the more reason there should be concern.
They aren't the only player in the Asian market<s> and therefore some other Asian or even Eastern focused companies and their product<s> could stand to obsolete them.
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Quote:What made COX a good game is also the Devs listened to ideas from the players, even ones they probably thought was off-the wall or impossible at the time. WIth that mindset running a game, that takes out the big factor of what made COX good. Now, it's "If you are not part of the SaveCOH" and agree with everything I say, you are a troll." Or Unicorn as some circles call it now. Too closed minded for that type of person or people to run a game that is nearly as good as COX.Originally Posted by I Burnt The Toast
Oh yeah I forgot if you are not totally up the SaveCoH backside then you are a troll. Speaking of illegal - how's that emulator coming along? 
Plus I find it not wise to talk about illegal activities on the company's forum that a person is planning on stealing from. That is like sitting on a porch of a person's home and talking about how you are going to steal their tv because they are not using it. Now if an illegal emulator or what ever they call it now do pop up, NCSoft have a good starting point of their investigation if they do not outright find it anyways and have the information of possible participants and when they get caught many now cant even say "I didnt know it was illegal" when they have the postings about how it was planned out and where these plans are located. So it makes it's easy to prove the intent. To steal. -
Quote:I'm not sure about most people but I take National Enquirer about as serious as...well I think I take anything, even Sundays paper comic strips more serious than that nonsense. It's a good entertaining read while waiting in the shopping store line. But wouldnt pay two pennies for it.Originally Posted by I Burnt The Toast
That article made me laugh. Sure SOME of what it said is actually true, but some of it is also pure hearsay.
This whole Anti-NCSoft thing is kinda silly to me. I doubt NCSoft truly cares what a few thousand people think...when GW2 has already sold over 2 million units as of mid September. Articles like these discredit the author more than the subject in my opinion. Felt like I was reading a National Enquirer Gaming article. -
Quote:And so a person saying they are going to bootleg their stuff is suppose to get them talking?Originally Posted by Paladiamors
Except for the part where they weren't talking even BEFORE that took place. So yeah, no dice there haus.
I'm talking within the context of them not responding to te request of that article, which the talks of reverse engineering was very soon after the Aug. 31st announcement. Even outside the context of this article, still there wasnt much time for them to reply. Corporations dont jump through hoops because a few players demand it. And sure as hell isnt going to do it when many talk about doing illegal stuff with their property. But as I said, I'm talking within the time period of this article. You assume too much. so no dice for you actually. -
played the first one but got bored. Too much sneaking around and not enough action.
Due to that really havent tried the rest of them. -
Quote:It is truely the end of the world then.Originally Posted by SpyralPegacyon
Exactly. ... Wait. I'm actually agreeing with E_L.
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Is there really evidence for anything from either side? Anyone really have information directly from the inside or an inside source?
So far, the only solid thing we have is NCSoft for some reason did not like what they see and decided to end it. The reason seems to be mostly pure speculation at this point or maybe it's it's all of the above or none of the above, or really as NCSoft said, the only inside and only ones that know the facts and is the horses mouth source said, to streamline the product line. So far their statement is the as close to a fact we have right now. COh did not fit within that streamline process so it had to go. -
Quote:Happens all the time by certain people, like "The Squirrel" does all the time already.Originally Posted by Angry_Citizen
People weren't really spamming it, but generally it's bad taste to go into every. single. thread and post "no" or "jranger", which is what jranger did. I mean, how would you like it if every idea you had, I just said "no" and dismissed you like you weren't even worth responding to in an intelligent manner?
Yea, but posting that every single time can be viewed as annoying to the person it is directed at and not good for opening up constructive conversation, especially from a mod point of view. -
Quote:Especially this.Originally Posted by Brillig
Considering how Save CoH is in bed with the illegal reverse engineering effort, I can't imagine why NCSoft would refuse to talk to them... Gee. Total puzzler.
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yes.
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dang there goes another one.
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Quote:+1.Originally Posted by I Burnt The Toast
You assume VERY wrong. Not only did I sign the petition but I CONSTANTLY tweeted about it every day. I was very much for SAVECOH until approx a week ago when it became clear that no amount of letters or tweets were going to Save CoH. NCSoft made their decision and instead of continuing in an effort that will be fruitless I stopped.
Heck I even got a few co-workers to sign it who have never played CoH.
These boards irk me when people assume so much about people they have no idea about
I have no problem with NCSoft as they were the ones who allowed me to play CoH for 7+ years. I was not delusional and knew CoH would close eventually.
From my standpoint the population was noticeably declining within the past 2 years - many of my global friends went on to other games and these were people who had played 5-6 years.
You and I both can think of ways for CoH to make money, but then again we also do not head a billion+ corporation and know everything that went into the decision...so yeah it's easy for us to say NCSoft was wrong.
I remember when victory was crawling with people, even red side. Now, even on Virtue the most popular server you might see one other villain or two run across the map when there used to be tons of them.
And victory is all but a dead zone besides the few old guards there that do their best to entertain lookers. -
Quote:yeah.Originally Posted by Pebblebrook
Mainstream media researching into this situation may tell a different story but it might not be what SaveCoH wants.
So far many of the movement's arguments for saving seems to be based on rumors, hearsay, 2nd-hand or misleading information and inaccurate representation of finances.
There's also some suggestions, think it was Mercedes Lackey, to see if they can use a scientific angle via anecdotal evidence from their other posters that CoH can help in therapy of autism and other ailments as reason to save the game.
And the writer of that article mentions Felicia Day and Neil Gaiman are in support of SaveCoH but i've only seen a retweet from Gaiman by request of SaveCoH and another tweet from Felicia mentioning some gamers trying to save their game makes her tear up.
I suppose that can be considered supporting but in the faintest sense i guess.
But maybe before hitting the mainstream, maybe that EGM article should try and hit their own site's Top 10 stories of the day first. -
Quote:Yea true but they might want to avoid the forums. They might go to the wrong thread and think, "Geesh, those gamers are nutcases! Good god! Maybe it's a good thing NCSoft is closing it down." But that is basically a best case scenario but more than likely as you said below will happen instead here:Originally Posted by jwbullfrog
Well that is true enough EL but, if this does get to the mainstream press, they will want to do some research and they'll go to the internet and 'lo and behold' there will be all this information out there already telling a different story.
Quote:Originally Posted by jwbullfrog
The sad truth is that this will probably never get to the mainstream press.
Maybe it's me, but it looks like they are already dumping us as customers. They might even be looking for a reason to leave the American market completely such as closing down the american version of GW2 when it close "due to slipping sales". They might just trying to prove how the American market is not ready for anything but WoW like games. But how many wont play because of this? Hard to say but I guess about the same amount that wouldnt have played this game due to closing TB, Auto Assault, and the others. The reputation they had before is the same one they had now. I doubt it will get any worse. Sure there will be noise, and stuff but when it dies down, some people will slink back. Just as some people sworn off NCSoft when Tabula Rasa or however you spell it happened, yet many of those ex-players are here again under NCSoft. Many people here knew about NCSoft reputation and their shady practices, as they call it now, with the Garrett thing, yet, here they are again giving NCsoft money. I think the same thing will happen after this game is done. If it was the first time out the blue that NCSoft did something liek this, then yeah, it would have probably killed their rep and that would be the end of it but they only been doing what they always have been doing.Quote:Originally Posted by jwbullfrog
As you say, it's just not a big enough story what with all of the bigger events going on in the world. This is likely to remain a localized story but, the important thing to remember is that the people who are paying attention to this are the very people that NCSoft would like to have as paying customers.
It may be hard to tell but how many copies of GW2 have not been sold because of this? How many people will not buy Blade and Soul because of this? How many people will not play Wildstar because of this? .
yes this is true. That why it's also important to look at a companies reputation prior to buying and bail if that company reputation is not up to snuff unless their past actions dont bother you. It's the player's folly to think it would never happen to them especially when they did it about 4-6 times already. Of course we missed that boat now and here we are. So if they are truely serious about not giving NCSoft anymore money, and affecting anything, then they must stick to the guns and regardless of what game or bait they make even if it's COX2 and bigger and better, dont deal with NCSoft. Or else, why would NCSoft change if all they have to do is hold out a piece of bacon to get those lost customers and new ones back and then take it away again when ever they feel like it then repeat process. Right now, after pulling this stunt 5 times already or 6 or 4 or up to 7 depending who is asked, and succeeding with it, then why would they change? Now if they pull this and players are serious, then maybe they should just take this lump for being blind to the facts of the past and then leave NCSoft alone and not give them a single dime in any shape form or fashion. If anything can be taken from this is that with NCSoft, no one is immune not even COX as it once thought it was.Quote:Originally Posted by jwbullfrog
Negative press is always negative press despite what PT Barnum might have said and it takes a long time for companies to win back customers. If NCSoft had any chance of damage of damage control, they should have gotten to it long ago. Staying silent just reinforces the image that they just don't care. And how many people really want to buy something from a company that just doesn't care about what they sell?
Then again, consumers buy many products from corporations that dont give hoot about what they sell and who they sell to. Ever try calling a customer service line and if you go to sales, you are talking to someone within a minute and sometimes even seconds. Then call the line for complaints then you are on hold for half hour up to a few hours and usually they either cant help you because they havent been given the tools to help or they play the transfer game. But not in sales, boy, they always have the best deals for you. -
Quote:Originally Posted by TwoHeadedBoy
I've been playing a lot of other games since the announcement of COH closing, and I'm sure others have been as well. After going back to COH for a while tonight, this experience has left me ultimately very frustrated with our game.
I'm not sure if it's just my imagination or not, but the camera reverting to the "behind the character" position EVERY TIME a power is executed on my behalf (or on the behalf of any player of the game) has become the HEIGHT of frustration for me. I find myself holding down the right mouse button as often as possible, and becoming completely disoriented every time I let it go to do something else (ie: click a macro, but still pressing an attack in the process) due to a terrible camera view.
Now, this isn't a problem on open maps since the auto-route camera tends to still provide a decent amount of visibility... But COH is the king of restrictive and enclosed mission environments, and it becomes borderline unplayable frustration under those conditions.
I never remember this being a huge stress factor in the past, but I also didn't play many other games. Maybe I became subliminally and unjustifiably content with this control/camera orientation in COH, but I can tell you that now, for whatever reason, I find it absolutely loathsome.
So I guess you can view this as a sort of positive outlook- After COH is gone, we will never have to deal with auto-spin again.
Stress from playing a game, is no fun. At least in my world.
Yeah havent been playing much either as after playing on that fits better, little niggles I just lived with such as the team oriented content, recycled missions with the ambushes after ambush after ambush after ambush to go along with it, and other little things seem to stand out even more once the other side. It's like having an old 4 door family car thinking it has plenty of pick up and go and does fine then until you drive the new Jag XJ-Supersport family car and learn the true meaning of rapid family transport and then go bad to the old car which just a minutes ago was fine, but now seems sluggish, rattles can be heard that you didnt notice before and etc. So what you do? You trade in that old one and get the Jag XJ-Supersport. -
Good to see most found jobs and doing well it seems. Knew they would have no trouble finding another job with the talent they displayed here.
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Quote:ah.Originally Posted by Coyote_Seven
From what I recall, it really was just Ex Libris getting annoyed at so many posts simply saying "no".
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Quote:Well what did it actually mean or was insinuating? I mean paragonwiki explains that it meas no and how it came to be but what about it made it bannable or even enough to catch the attention of a mod? There seems to be more to it. Was people starting to use it for less than friendly meaning? Was people spamming it? Or what?Originally Posted by Coyote_Seven
I always thought that was a severe overreaction on the part of Ex Libris. I lost respect for her after making such a silly and stupid little rule.
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Quote:it depends on the avenue of the pro-ncsoft, even though I dont think one is even needed. The for and anti-nscoft havent hit anything mainstream yet outside the gaming community grassroot blogs, pages, and a few gaming magazines. Over all though, the average person, average American for that matter probaly still to this day havent even heard about NCSoft or COH and many that have is just another routine shutdown followed by the normal routine dissent of the players.Originally Posted by jwbullfrog
At this point it would be difficult for an article with a pro-NCSoft slant to be taken seriously. The general internet talk about the shutdown has been very much in the players' favor and even the few dissenting voices have been generally sympathetic (i.e. 'yeah the game sucked, get over it, but it shouldn't have been shut down.)
If NCSoft was going to have a chance to put a more favorable spin on this, it would have had to been done at the beginning. Their silence on the matter has not done them any good and has let those people sympathetic to our cause control the conversation.
The only thing that NCSoft could do now to regain any kind of positive press about this is to issue a statement explaining their reasoning for shutting down the game and closing that statement with an announcement that they have agreed to sell the game to another publisher.
The longer they refuse to talk, the less anyone will want to listen to anything they have to say.
If there is to be a point that the save COH can shut out NCSoft if they for some reason decide to release a press statement, then they have to go outside the gaming elements and hit mainstream. NCSoft if they chose to add salt on the wounds can simply go to a mainstream buisness site and crush the save coh thing without so much as most of those readers hearing the other side. Right now, NCsoft is in a position where they dotn have a say anything and still come out on top and or twart the goal of SaveCOH movement. They can simply just be quiet and sit on the IP and call it a day and thei goal is achieved. Unfortunately it's the SaveCOH that have to do the leg work and probably wont get a bit of help from NCSoft to do that. Go mainstream, get the word out there and the case may raise an eyebrow at NCSoft. But staying in the gaming community, where it's all but guranteed going to side with the gamers, is cool for showing how many gamers agree but to mainstream, it's a corporation making a corporate decision and a bunch of game addicts putting up a fuss because they can no longer have their drug. Even though most gamers are far from addicts, living in a basement, with no life but as long as the gaming community stays within a gaming community and look down their nose at the rest of the world, then that is how they will be viewed and never will get true backing to be able to change anything, especially when living up to those stereotypes with the actions displayed when a game is shutdown. -
Quote:hmm. interesting.Originally Posted by Captain-Electric
http://paragonwiki.com/wiki//jranger
And--
http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/UniqueDragon
Before anyone asks.
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what the hell is jranger?
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Quote:Good stuff.Originally Posted by Reiraku
A long, long time ago...
I can still remember
When the ITF used to make me smile.
And I knew if I had my chance
That I could do the monkey dance
And, maybe, grind some merits for a while.
But Issue 13 made me shiver
With every revamp they'd deliver.
Bad news was the dev's fault;
I couldn't roll one more alt.
I cant remember if I cried
When I read about the nerfs they'd hide,
But something touched me deep inside
The day when CoH died.
So bye-bye, to the PvP guys.
Suppression just won't lessen,
And the game feels stale and dry.
And the good old devs had to be drinkin whiskey and rye
Singing "maybe now my dom won't die."
"maybe now my dom won't die."
Did you write an AE arc,
And did it get flamed with bad marks,
Because the farmers made it so?
Do you believe in chinese gold,
For just $12.99 or your mortal soul,
And can you teach me how to not make my stoner real slow?
Well, I know that youre in love with Kins
`cause I saw you begging for SB from him.
You both got kicked from the team.
Man, I dig that colored FREEEEEEEEM!.
I was a lonely soloist AV killer
With a Brute or MM, no need for fillers
But these changes made me laugh as much as a movie with Ben Stiller
The day that CoH died.
I started singin,
"bye-bye, to those PvP guys."
Suppression just won't lessen,
And the game feels stale and dry.
Them good old boys had to be drinkin whiskey and rye
And singin, "maybe now my dom won't die.
"maybe now my dom won't die."
Now for five years weve been playing this game
And now the content seems kind of lame,
But thats not how it used to be.
When Sexy Jay made costumes fit for a king and queen,
And leather coat so we could make a homage to james dean
A voice of thanks came from you and me,
Oh, and while Positron went AFK,
A PvP'er ganked him and called him (HEY!).
Pillboxes still got farmed;
But no other players were harmed.
And while Castle read some posts and threads,
BAB laughed and shook his head,
And our expectations were misled
The day that CoH died.
We were singing,
"bye-bye, to those PvP guys."
Suppression just won't lessen,
And the game feels stale and dry.
Them good old boys had to be drinkin whiskey and rye
And singin, "maybe now my dom won't die.
"maybe now my dom won't die."
Blasters, Scrappers and Malta Sappers.
Fusionette's a twit and you couldn't help her,
From taking damage and falling fast.
Then they nerfed that poison gas.
After players had proc'd it out the (REMIX!),
With the villain side market in a cast.
Now the forums are filled with impending DOOOOOOM!
While the mods caught a migrane or two.
Some posters could freely flame,
While others took all the blame!
Farming players were in high demand;
And Lighthouse may or may not have been canned.
Do you recall who else got banned
The day that CoH died?
We started singing,
"bye-bye, to those PvP guys."
Suppression just won't lessen,
And the game feels stale and dry.
Them good old boys had to be drinkin whiskey and rye
And singin, "maybe now my dom won't die.
"maybe now my dom won't die."
Oh, and there we were all on one team,
An MLRSF with no debuffs or freem
With no time left to restart again.
So come on: jack might be a jerk, jack might be a dick!
But Jack made this game, we should all admit.
Cause flaming him doesn't do us any good.
Oh, and as I watched Castle on a forum page
About how he was going to eventually nerf rage.
But that patch was reverted
Disaster was averted.
And as the flaming posts climbed high into the night
Because complaining is our only right,
I saw Mod 8 swing his ban-hammer with delight
The day that CoH died
He was singing,
"bye-bye, to those PvP guys."
Suppression just won't lessen,
And the game feels stale and dry.
Them good old boys had to be drinkin whiskey and rye
And singin, "maybe now my dom won't die.
"maybe now my dom won't die."
I once talked to War Witch in game
And thanked her for not being lame,
She just smiled and turned away.
I went down to the gaming store
Where Id bought time cards years before,
But the man there said WoW was the game I should play.
And in i16: the farmers screamed,
The RP'ers cried, and the carebears dreamed.
But not a word was spoken;
For was the CoP was still broken.
And the three men I admire most:
The Castle, BAB, and that Widow Ghost,
They're still making the game by the San Fran coast
The day that CoH died.
And they were singing,
"bye-bye, to those PvP guys."
Suppression just won't lessen,
And the game feels stale and dry.
Them good old boys had to be drinkin whiskey and rye
And singin, "maybe now my dom won't die.
"maybe now my dom won't die."
They were singing,
"bye-bye, to those PvP guys."
Suppression just won't lessen,
And the game feels stale and dry.
Them good old boys had to be drinkin whiskey and rye
And singin, "maybe now my dom won't die.
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Quote:You probably absolutely right about that. And hope COHTitan or what ever is the head of the SaveCOH movement dont fall into the trap when one of those NCSoft biased reporters come knocking for an interview looking for "Titan's side".Originally Posted by Captain-Electric
Believe me, NCSoft will not be seeking (or paying) an unbiased reporter to cover their side.
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Quote:I have one last storyline to finish on that day, nothing to do with community or unity or stuff, that went out the window a while ago, but my personal ending. Nov 30th, the last chapter of the storyline for this character. This week is the ending for another character that should be done by 7th then after that it's just the wait until Nov 29th and 30th to end the storyline of the one that started it in i6 and will end it in Nov 30th.Originally Posted by Angry_Citizen
I probably won't be here. I moved on already. Y'all should too.
Mostly been playing CO (only MMO) and other games that are non-MMOs. If it wasnt for a friend selling me on the solo part of it I probably would have left it alone. Lo and behold he was right. It's like playing a stand alone game with the community as a side effect, although they are pleasant to interact with and quick to answer questions when I got there. None of that "noob" or "Read paragonwiki" and snarky remarks nonsense. Just "oh, that is easy, you do this and that and this and there you go. Anything else you need help with, just ask and welcome to CO." One guy even gave me some cash to start off with. Never had that happen in COH even back in i6-era.