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Originally Posted by Bonehead

Whether or not this is feasible, it would be great if they could do a CoH 2.0 instead of a CoH 2 wherein the game has the same feel, plays the same, we don't have to learn how everything works again, etc., but all the systems (fx, powers, etc.) go revamped and upgraded so that they would be more flexible then they are now.

/pipedream

Originally Posted by Zikar

Er, no it couldn't. The Devs have repeatedly stated that there are game engine and server limitations to making Fly go faster.

Originally Posted by Ironblade

Oh, just a wild guess, but I think that figuring out the cause would get things moving. Any bug that only occurs intermittently is extremely hard to fix.

Originally Posted by Arbiter Oates

We are, actually, investigating this. It is a problem with specific doors in specific maps. So one player may see the bug if running Mission X, while another play may not.

The best info for us is the contact name, mission, and the results of /whereami and /loc.

Originally Posted by Vanden

Domination doesn't affect different primaries equally. To oversimplify, if you get permadom on a Mind Controller, you have an unstoppable maelstrom of mob lockdown. If you get permadom on an Earth Controller, you have...a Dominator with mez protection.

What I'm wondering is, why? Unless the power info is wrong or flat out lies, Domination effects are just an extra thing the power does that only kicks in while Domination is active. I'm pretty sure they could have the powers do things besides have a second control effect that last 50% longer when Domination is active. For example, maybe Jolting Chain could have more jumps, or do decent damage. Hot Feet could have a chance for Knockdown.

Since it's possible for pets to inherent buffs from the caster, they could even use this to port Illusion Control to Doms without the problem of the set getting very little benefit from Domination.

Originally Posted by Bohmfalk

You seem to overlook the fact that all these IOs only go to lvl 50. Since the majority (I'm estimating here) of players use sets and set bonuses, at least for their mains, that would mean that they would have to at the very least create new lvl 50-60 IOs for each set that goes that far, otherwise create all new IOs for lvl 50-60. Which would mean that all of those lvl 50 IOs that everyone has spent billions of infl to create and slot would now become useless, and the 10 per respec that people would be able to strip down would sell for much much less than they do now. So basically, the many people who waited until lvl 50 to outfit their toons with lvl 50 purps, pvp IOs, and whatever else top-lvl IOs they have, would have to spend all that time and infl all over again in order to optimize their toons. They could lvl to 60 (which would last a month or two), and keep what they have, but it wouldn't even get out of beta without HUGE complaints if they didn't up the IOs.

Originally Posted by Dispari

PvP is a joke yes but it's a valid point. Dev time is not interchangeable; you can't just copypaste the AE devs to work on something else without stopping to train them first. And if they have the time to make tons of new arcs for 51-60, why can't they just make arcs for us now? And the 41-50 stuff was planned from the start, they just didn't have the time and resources the launch with it (and there are still remnants of this from the past, like Titan enhancements). Tons of systems have been added since then that work with 50 as the cap, that would have to be reworked.

What you're suggesting is that they devote an absurd amount of time and resource to making the game work at level 60 for absolutely no payoff. Upping the level cap now with no rhyme, reason, or planning would be a massive waste of everything. There isn't anything that increasing the level cap would do for us that we can't already achieve, but it comes with the downside of requiring a gigantic amount of extra effort.

If the only reason you want to increase the level cap is because other MMOs do it, then I refer you to the nearest bridge.

Originally Posted by Dispari

Everything in the entire game is already set to peak at level 50. If you raise the cap to 60, suddenly:

* We have to have a new PvP zone just for 51-60.
* We have to have numerous new PvE zones just for 51-60 (one zone isn't going to cut it for all the new characters who suddenly have to gain another 10 levels).
* It would require an entire 10 levels worth of new story arcs and task forces just to keep people busy. If you added 10 levels and gave them less content than we have now at max level, you would actually be giving people at max level less to do which is the exact opposite of a good idea, and the opposite of what adding content is supposed to achieve.
* Suddenly, things like safeguards/mayhems, HOs, purple sets, the purple patch (it currently isn't set up to handle anything past +/- 50), mothership raids, incarnate trials, and badges have to be retailored with level 60 players in mind.
* All existing arch-villains, heroes, and high-end story arcs are no longer for max level players. Do you want to throw everything onto the same pile as random story arc #8675309 that nobody runs?
* All the high-end task forces are no longer high-end task forces. If you had to exemplar to run an ITF, would you?

It sounds like your solution is to just make all those things be for level 60s too. In which case, what is the point of adding more levels if it doesn't change anything? If the only point to adding more levels is to add exp grind and obtaining more powers, the incarnate system already does that. The only thing adding more physical levels would do is throw off the balance of the game and add tons more work than is necessary.

It's not about "laziness" in not wanting to have to add 5 new zones; dozens of story arcs; ten new task forces; update tons of existing arcs, task forces, and trials; fix tons of issues and bugs; rewrite everything; and retailor all existing high-level content and rewards. It's about how stupid it is to go do that when it's completely unnecessary and a waste of developer time to do so, when raising the level cap would achieve literally nothing.

Originally Posted by Wicked_Wendy

Agreed.. while it seems simple to just say "Lets just add ten levels and let them go to 60." The game isn't geared for it and it would take ?? who knows how long to create critters to give a 60 level a good fight. Considering the design of the rest of the game it might even require 2 whole new zones.. one blue and one red side with 53-62 level villans, a whole new set of contacts, new story arcs and quite possible even new enemy groups to battle or at least new factions of older groups. Then we get into is 60 level enough? I picked it sort of assuming we'd gain one of the current incarnate powers every other level BUT realistically the rate beyon 32 in one power every 3 levels so 1 at 49 (that we have now) a 2nd at 52, 3rd at 55, and so on... using that scale we'd get the Omega power at level 79. Now we seriously need a new zone and potentially new enemies.. No way the current 50 levels survive long roaming a zone with 80+ level villains. So now we are talking between 10 and 30 new level , new zones new enemies and .. what NO Task Forces or Strike Forces through 30 levels of play???

See just like Lothic said they's be better off introducing COH2 with features like that built in than trying to add that much new content now to what we have.

Originally Posted by Derangedpolygot

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Every other MMO is not City of Heroes. By design it is not. Raising the cap makes it a grind-fest to hit the next cap. Older content becomes obsolete and abandoned. In my personal experience folks can't wait to get to 50. Raise it to 60? It will be chewed through in a week--maybe a few days. It's an ***-load of work for something that will hardly matter in the long run. Their energy is best spent adding more worthwhile(and by this I mean fun) content.


--and it appears Ironblade long since said this D'oh!

Originally Posted by Ironblade

Stopping at 50 has nothing to do with laziness. This game is designed differently from other MMO's. Frankly, the idea of increasing the level cap in this game well and truly BLOWS. Seriously, the idea is so bad and so stupid that it doesn't even merit consideration.

It would require a revamp of most game systems and most enemy groups and - here's the important part - IT WOULD GIVE NO BENEFIT. Raising the level cap serves no inherent purpose. Raise it to 60, people rush to 60 and start complaining again. Raise it to 70 and the same happens. Much better to stop at a specific number, never raise it, and head off all that stupidity.

Originally Posted by Tricia

Is this the same "only" as when you were "only" getting Trap of the Hunger procs prior to Reward Merits being introduced?

Originally Posted by James_Donner

I know how to make influence. I know how and why prices are what they are. I understand that the market has swings and all the other things everyone else is saying. I play the market, I am good at it. I have everything I need. I am not talking about me. I am talking about Blacier, and every other solid vet player I know who are getting sick of everything it takes to stay ahead of the game. When people like that start to get frustrated its gets my attention because I know they are not a bunch of lazy idiots. They are smart savvy vets who are getting sick of the Inflation Grind. When they start to say "forget it" its a cause for concern.

Originally Posted by ultrawatt

Im pretty sure posi has mentioned multiple times he does not want everything to come out at once. So rather than just raising the level cap by 10 they are instead introducing incarnate powers. So there is always something to look forward to, and the game keeps getting bigger and our toons more powerful.

Unless you want them to just raise the level cap by 1 every issue, which one do you think it funner? Raise level cap or a new incarnate power every issue?

I for one think gaining the ability to punch stuff so hard it explodes is funner than getting hand clap as a set mule.

They have also said that iPowers ARE NOT ending with omega.

Originally Posted by Blacier

Just need to get this off my chest, I was at first very excited that the markets were merging but now it would seem that this Global economy has all but taken the fun out of the game for me. I like playing my toons and building setting them out, but lately even the common salvage is going for such a high and unreasonable price that it's just plain frustrating to build toons. It's expected that we will pay a bit for recipes and rare salvage but these folks purposely marketing cheap common salvage is too much.

I really don't even want to build my toons any longer and if I don't build them why play them, and you see where that leads. I have spoken to many of the people that I play with and most share similar views on this subject. maybe this game is getting long in the tooth.

I mean I have been playing for a while, I have the means to make the inf in order to build what I need, but it is no wonder with an untouchable economy and unforgiving reward system that we do not retain more people in the game. If it weren't for the PVP-IO farmers there would be none on the market. As well I have run TF's and Trials out the wazoo and still as long as I have played this game cannot say that I have had enough purples dropped to me to make a complete set, I have had some don't get me wrong but now with the economy the way it is I would sure sell it before I would ever consider using one.

I am sorry but the Devs for not wanting people to farm are making this a farmers game that it pretty much all folks can do to get by any longer. All that aside the market needs looked at, it is out of control.

That's my grip and no I have no possible solutions this time only grief. but then again that's not my job, I would like to continue playing this game for a while but man every time I set foot in Wents, it hurts.

Originally Posted by Arbegla

Well, I'll see how it plays out as my ninja/poison gets higher in levels.

Thats kinda the point of this thread, to document the success, or failure, of a ninja/poison