EmperorSteele

Or you could just perma-park in Cimerora... the day job badge there is +3% res iirc.

I believe it was in on the Test Server in Pocket D back when I13 was in beta... Hero 1 came in and started answering questions. He said MA would NOT have XP and that "custom enemies" would be in another build.

Cue over a week of people yelling on the forums about MA not having XP or Custom enemies upon release and how they wouldn't touch it. The Devs relented and pushed back the release of MA and repackaged I13 as "Power and Responsibility" and turned into a tiny "QoL" issue.


Domination kinda helps with holds compared to a Controller =) A Controller's mass hold will only hold if they get the "overpower" bonus. Then the rest get angry and start throwing pointy things >_>


... You know, i was beginning to respect your opinion until this. "Real world"?

Where did i say that all farms are exploits? I just want farms off the MA so that hitting "random" doesn't bring up a farm arc 7 times out of 10. Yeah, i checked.

Though while we're on the subject, it occurs to me that no matter what way you slice it, someone going from 1-20 in an hour is exploitative gaming. And the same way someone gets from 1-20 in an hour is the same way you can max out your tickets/hour. So any halfway decent MA farm worth its salt is GOING to be at least somewhat exploitative, even with the nerfs.


I'd like to see you try to report a MA arc for having a story. Go ahead, give CS something to laugh about =)

Now I'd like to not mind the fact that you build custom-missions for your own toons to go through, except it was the same general mindset that got the MA nerfed hard in the first place. See, if, for some dumb reason, no one ever thought to farm or exploit MA, we wouldn't have this "Custom groups need all critter types to be worth full XP" garbage. We wouldn't need to make all our custom critters needlessly difficult just to be worth the same amount of XP as a Dev critter that has 3 attacks. We'd still have healing enemies to add a touch of strategic challenge. And the Mission listing would only have 1000 pages instead of close to 3000 (most of which are for one person or abandoned or broken now).

But, people saw it as a farming tool, and now we have level 50s in Atlas Park asking where the train is. Prices on IOs are through the roof because no one was producing/selling salvage or rares. And because of the ups and downs of the MA, most people won't touch it anymore, even those who might have liked to play a few new stories... never know when a new nerf will come along and invalidate some random arc, which has completely negated the MA's original purpose.

So, go ahead and have your fun, hope you enjoyed ruining other people's with your thoughtlessness =)

No, see here's the intent: Just play normally. You know, find a mission that sounds interesting, play it, rate it, move on to another. Play, rate, move on. Play, rate, move on.

Making your own mission with no plot (just lots of bosses), publishing it, and doing nothing BUT playing that mission? Kind of goes against the spirit of sharing interesting new stories.

You'll EVENTUALLY make enough tickets for a gold roll by playing normally. In fact, at 1500 a mission*, a 5 mission arc can probably give you a gold roll's worth of tickets! You don't NEED to farm!

*of course, most story-based AE missions aren't specifically designed to ticket-cap you every mission, but that's where difficulty settings come into play.

What mixed messages? Seriously? Removing everything that was being farmed isn't enough of a "no farms" message?

Now, the devs don't mind small-scale farming where there's some risk involved. Look at Cimeroria, there's a big wall with like 60 dudes... but 60 dudes with mez resistance and high-damage lethal attacks that kill defense buffs and they have self-healers and patrols mixed in. That and you have to share the fun with everyone else.

Having THAT is NOT the same thing as "Go ahead and waste space in the MA by making a boss-only mission full of guys who can't possibly hurt you".

The enhanced difficulty options are for people who like a challenge. And yes, it enables farming, but at least people aren't spamming broadcast and tells for pads. Also, now you can farm existing missions easier instead of wasting space in the AE mission list.

And a few probably WILL. I seem to recall there being a "MA stories and Lore" sub-forum that's popular enough, though I DON'T see a "MA Farmers" sub forum anywhere.

Wait, rewards are ONLY added to be farmed?

Is that seriously your mentality?

The devs sought to reward people for their play time, not "hey here's a reward type, now find the most efficient way to get as most of it as possible with the least effort!" Why do you think they added a tickets-per-mission cap, or even an upper limit cap? These actions are not consistent with "hey, farm this!"

Originally, the MA wasn't even going to HAVE rewards. Let that sink in for a second.

Now obviously, they changed their minds after almost everyone said they wouldn't touch the MA otherwise, but since then have added caps, removed mob types, reduced the XP efficiency of mob combinations, added more caps, removed badges... They do NOT want people farming in MA.

Yes, they allow you to level up in it normally so that anyone under 49 isn't wasting their time, but that's it. That doesn't mean they want people farming.

And if people continue to farm in MA, the Devs will continue to nerf until it becomes completely unfeasible to even use at all. And the only ones who will really lose out are the people using the MA for its intended purpose.

For what it's worth, your "farm" missions are getting in the way of people finding honest-to-goodness STORY arcs (which the MA was INTENDED for), making them have to dig through large piles of abandoned crap one-offs just to find some new, actual CONTENT to play. So it's not about not liking farming, it's about YOUR play choices affecting not only people's ability to find OUR story arcs, but the devs nerfing the whole thing to death so that no one wants to play them! Which means less ratings, which means less tickets, which means, because of YOUR actions, we cannot get -our- rewards for using the system the way it was intended. Thanks. Really.

Now I farm, believe me. I've hit the wall in cim, I've done hami raids twice in a row, done full days of TFs JUST for the merits, stood in front of a Carnival Master Illusionist for hours on end and hitting an AoE once in a while to get badge credit... even ran a few lowbies with higher-level folks to get some extra XP. I don't have anything against farming in general.

However, I don't condone the use of the MA being used as a farming tool, if only based on the way the mission listing is set up. Now, i DID do some farming there: badge farming. But then I did everyone a favor and DELETED my farm mission! But everyone else's lack of consideration and foresight has led to a broken shell of what could have been a great story-telling tool.

So, yeah. How about you farmers go back to doing ANYTHING ELSE, and just leave the MA be? And then, when you have 50s of every type all IO'd out and you're bored out of your mind because there's no more challenge or variety (a self-imposed problem there; how about running some STORY arcs for a change?), take down your farm arcs before canceling your sub.

Or leave them there out of laziness and/or spite. But that says more about you than I, right?

Well, yup, that's a shame.

*snerk*