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There's also the danger of doing something against the EULA - if you wre to fill for a pro PLer, who's breaking the EULA by PLing for real cash, then wouldn't that make a filler also guilty of helping break the EULA?
So if you're unsure about the person asking you to fill, it might be safer to decline, just in case you're being asked to help break the EULA.

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Yea you are right, infact I remember 1 /t that I copied and pasted when I used to fill that stated, I am not chinese, gtting paid or work for rice i simply want a pvp toon.."

~lol

Seemed to get a few chuckles and ppl were happy to help me.

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Despite someone requesting not to be asked to be contacted in those situations, it's okay for you to ignore that request and ask and then get upset at the other person for either not responding or telling you to look at their search message, which you've already ignored?

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Its 2 seperate instances not both at the same time... I don't contact people who ask not to be, but the search coments do pss me off.

And if I do contact someone that is rude back to me for only the reason that they disagree with farming and filling also psses me off.

They are seperate, not at the same time... otherwise I would expect a rude comment back.

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And even if I personally am soloing, I'm playing this game. Not a console game. Not another game. I'm playing this game. The way I choose to. There's nothing in the EULA to say "YOU MUST TEAM OR ELSE."

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If this is the case you are in the wrong game, and I hope you never need help because your attitude makes me think that you don't deserve it.

Even if you are Soloing, filling takes 2 mins and doesn't require you to do anything!

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This debate crops up here every year or so (at least). And there's always two diametrically opposing points of view who can't understand the other.

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I am perfectly capable of understanding your point of view... I just don't understand the huge problem with it...

If we farmers had 6 accounts im sure we could fill ourselfs, but we can't.


And to answer eskimo_spy,

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What do you think people do when they're not on a team? Just stand around twiddling their thumbs until someone asks them to join a team. Belive it or not some people do solo at times to clear up their missions or just because they simply want to.

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If you are in a mission the /search will say so and you cannot be invited to a team... the only people to get /t's would be the ones that are yes,,, out a mission, not in a team, and doing nothing that filling would interfere with.

:P

Been a few good skirmishes in Sirens recently, so I thought it be nice to open the invite to anyone who fancies making this Zone a wee bitty more active on a regular basis.

I am in Sirens most nights for a few hours after 7pm...
Hoping we could maybe make Monday nights a regular Sirens Call Skirmish night...



Everyone has a good chance against everyone else as they dont all have UBER powers and are able to fit Phase in before lvl 30.

So a few guidlines that could make this fun

You will find that :
30 is a nice PvP level because you have to think about your build and choose the limited powers you want for that type of combat.

You cannot hide:
Sirens bounty system means that the most wanted will cylce the players in map giving you their location.

Inspirations:
Lots of PvP'rs frown upon Insps... how about to save arguments we only use the ones we earn from bounty?

I would love to host this on a monday night and I hope there is some interest out there... you can get me on @Donna2.

Its always great fun when it's busy but people turn up find it empty and leave....

Its about time people answered Sirens Call...
So i am hoping to do something about it...


All welcome, new and old...

Post constructive thoughts please. x

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No matter how polite I'm asked to fill. I wont. Simple dimple (as my sister always says). I pay my subs, you pay your subs. We both play the game how we like so why change others play stile just to please yourself?
Unless the person who wants me to fill offers to pay for my sub, it will always be no.

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That's the sort of selfish morals that wind me up.

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So it's your way alone or someone is selfish...? Erm... right.

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No, I mean that if someone refuses to help another person in game no matter how nicely they ask ever, then it's very selfish.

If I was asked for help with anything from another player, i'd like to think if I could do so I would.... and i'm damn sure anything that is asked of me would be harder than accepting an invite for 2 mins.

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No matter how polite I'm asked to fill. I wont. Simple dimple (as my sister always says). I pay my subs, you pay your subs. We both play the game how we like so why change others play stile just to please yourself?
Unless the person who wants me to fill offers to pay for my sub, it will always be no.

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That's the sort of selfish morals that wind me up.

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Now you're backpedelling, first you're talking about how "I do not Fill/Farm" comments annoy you and how the people posting them are antisocial and should play games on a console instead if they don't want to Fill.

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Not True, I said people who don't want to be contacted should play a console instead.

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Now you've changed it to getting annoyed by receiving rude responses. Which is it?

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I get annoyed with both to be honest.. no back pedelling involved...

Again I would like to express my disgust with i13 !!!

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Pick up Group, as in a proper team running missions.

You know, the actual social way to play the game.

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Ew, PvE...

lol, im kidding.. I like them too, and I harly ever fill... I simply get 6 people that want to farm and benefit from it so I never need ask for fillers, sure it costs me in the long run but I'd rather other benefit from my farm also.

Although it is annoying when you run the map 10 times and the lvl 7 in the corner gets the purple drop xD

Anyhoo,

All i'm saying is that people should not be adverse to helping farmers... as long as they are polite.

"fill Plox" ~ is not something you will ever get from me.

You are more likely to get this,

"Hi, I am farming a map.. would you like to join me for some XP and Inf or if your not busy would you fill a spot in the team for 2 mins and I will be as fast as I can mapping it, ty Donna x"

Now when I get a rude reply to that kind of tell I have a right to be pss'd off because I have put some effort into being polite and to make sure I don't offend anyone.

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Maybe the person wants to play alone and doesn't want to team. Just because there are other people in the game doesn't mean you HAVE to interact with them.

Being on the receiving end of an unwanted fill/farm/whatever request does feel rather like receiving an unwanted sales call by the way.

If you do see a comment like that in a search then please do just leave them alone, what would you gain from antagonising them?

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Its not that I gain anything, It's just I hate people that look down on farming and advertise it. Makes me want to confront them...

Dunno must be my nature.

Whats PuG ?

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There's nothing "hostile" in pre-emptively letting someone looking for a Filler or Farmer know that asking that person is a waste of time.

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I just don't like it...

It makes me feel like I am a sales call when I'm actually playing a game.

~Grrr

I mean if your not in a team whats the issue with filling, assuming that the farmer is polite in asking.

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ANY, tell about powerlevelling, filling or farming will be Ignored.

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I find this in particular insulting and annoys me... its a similar situation when I look at /search..

I see search comments that say "I WILL NOT FILL / FARM / PL so DO NOT ASK"

To be honest people with hostile search comments like this would encourage me to send them tells saying "fill plox" ~ lol

People forget this is a Mmorpg, if you don'y want to be contacted... go play your playstation.

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Graphics Update - The City of Heroes/Villians graphics are getting a update and becoming more realistic!

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PvP Changes - PvP is getting a massive overhaul, bigger than Issue 13. The whole PvP system will be redesigned to make it fairer and more enjoyable.

Base Changes - Once again, Bases are getting changes. The change to Invention Salvage for crafting is scrapped and replaced with Base Salvage again, and a new SuperGroup Task/Strike Force called "Save the Base" is introduced - where your base is at risk from Enemy Groups, and you have to save it from destruction! (note: if you fail it, it does not destroy your base)

UI Update - The UI has been updated to make it more user-friendly and enjoyable to use.

That's all for now. I imagine some of the changes are a little far, but I imagine these could be implemented.

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Do you have to write everything like a news reader and in the present tense xD

Its really frustrating, I mean reading that post was about as pleasant as gargling with bleach.

Annnyhooo...

In i14 I would like to see,

* Merge Union + Defiant
* Fix the botchup that they now call PvP
* Including nerf the bloody issues with stalkers stealth cap, if we take 4 powers to reach perc cap we should be able to see the 1 hit wonders when they are more than 3ft away!
* More costumes please
* More LvL 50 Content
* Nerf Bloody widows, never have I seen a toon that has blinking everything!, psi res, Domi Holds, stealth, perception, slow res, mez prot, psi blast dmg, i mean OM.FG ! cmon!
* More powersets please, ideas could be as follows...

Controller Primary Sets :-

Sonic Control
Water Control
Dark Control

Scrapper Primary Sets -

Staff, Bow (lobg stick etc)
Judo (throws, submission holds etc)
Electric Melee
SuperStrength
Energy Melee

Blaster Primary set :-

Dual Pistols (obviously)
Water Blast
Poison/Toxic blast (All Dots etc)
Light Blast (lasers etc)
Magic Blast (Uses a staff/Wand etc)

More to follow as I think of them. =D

I assumre it is my post that you are referring to about the "50 now what"...

I got as far as "path to Power" and decided to go play WoW.

~ lol, only kidding wasn't that bad but seriously I don't have the attention span to finish reading your post.

Cynic has it quite right, I actually have four 50's... and about 18 toons ranging from levels 28 to 41.

Also have a couple of lowbies that I recreate all the time, I have also deleted countless lvl 20-30's maybe 15 of them or so....

Recently I PL'd most as I dont like low lvl grind and PvE. I enjoy'd the PvP side of things, so If I wanted to get a new PvP toon i'd PL it with my 2nd account..

What leads me to this thread are the changes to come to the PvP system. Its making me think i'd rather look at what PvE content I can enjoy instead of leaving game altogether.

Sooo....

I am looking for 1 main character I can play @ lvl 50, and not something that will exemp you lower than your IO's so that you loose everything you have worked for.

* Grinding to get your build perfect (Purple IOs)
- This is where I am now, when I posted the thread.
* The high end TFs (ITF, LGTF, STF, Shadow Shard TFs etc)
- Ok fair enough this content will keep me busy for a few nights
* PvP - which is getting a overhaul (whether this is good or bad I dont know) and the arena is getting new maps
- PvP Changes look Shhhhh T. and it will prob stop me PvPing.. I have already got the Disruptor badge and the changes to PvP are whats making me look for PvE Content.
* The high end mission Arcs
- This may be worth looking into.
* Roleplay
- Lmao, Lame.
* Orbourous (if you dont mind exemping)
- I do mind it pss' me off something awful.
* The soon to come Merits
- Already fully purpled, whats the point.
* Unlocking the Vanguard bits in the RWZ
- Again yeah this may be something I'll look into
* The soon to come Multi-builds
- Whats the point if your brand new build still had nothing to do
* Epic Archtypes
- VEATS would be worthwhile, as for Blueside, they are laughable.
* Exploring Villainside
- Possibility, but never seem to hold my attention beyond lvl 6
* Hami Raids
- Done LGTF already, i get bored fast...
* Mothership Raids
- Nvr done one, will look into it asap
* Badge hunting
- Again the boredom gets to me...
* Altism
- I have 24 Alts, original post says I want 1 Main toon and content for her to do at 50, not retstarting lvl 1 again >.<

The bonus from Kinetic was the speed I can Nuke,, I have actually got my design on mids and I am looking at a 18sec recharge on RoA whereas PBU is about 75secs. Fulcrum will ensure I am at the dmg cap perma.

Plus a 18 Sec Nuke before I stack siphon speeds, coupled with Fistfull of Arrows and Exploding Arrow should make for efficient killing I hope.

Planning on using Blazing Arrow and Total Focus to take out more single targets.

Or would I be better rerolling a Kin/Sonic??

Ok technical questions now, thinking this will prob be for the likes of PRAF or CARNIFAX as I know how good you guys are with this sorta thing.

So I am working on a Kinetic / Archery Defender, looking at creating the fastest nuker I can and in the whole game this seems like the one for me

However, I know there is no point in taking assault on the likes of my Fire/Kin because fulcrum hits the dmg cap...

With AIM and POWERBUILDUP how many Fulcrums would I need to Hit the damage cap with Rain Of Arrows?

Any more indepth number crunching is appreciated, tell me what you can please. RoA would be slotted 3x Dam/Acc Hammi's and 3 Recharge IO's

cheers x

very true, I have had chronic altism for a long time filling 2 accounts with Alts, however I would rather have 1 main character. I just hate that the things to do at 50 like Task forces exemp you to low levels again xD

I would love lvl 50 only content, this should prob go to suggestions but a LVL 50 Zone, with pretty looking TF's for 50's only, and teams of 50's doing 50 only arcs with benefits like 50 only costume parts etc...

Droooool



*goes to get mop*

Ok so you finally hit the big Five-Oh!
And spend all your hard earned inf on Purple IO's and Sets.

Now what?!

I am now at this point and I want to play my toon as it is, but so far I have done ITF + LGTF... But to be honest I'm fed up of the other TF's cause it gimps your build, why work to 50 to play your toon at 25 or 32!!

I have worked on my toon to get it to the point I love and adore all my powers and sets, what else is there to do now that I am here ?

Can anyone help please ?
I am sure I must be missing something.

To Clarify....
2. No, doesnt matter, any lvl will do.

Actually it does matter but not in the sense that you mean.
The bonus will not increase or decrease with level but if you have a level 50 IO the bonus sets + procs will not work if you exemp lower than that lvl.

For example, if you enter Warburg or start a StrikeForce that runs at lvl 30, you will loose the bonus from any IO's above that lvl.

The % will stay the same, but the SetBonus and Proc will no longer work.

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"If you don't like it, get out." or "It's PvP. Anything goes.". It's not hard to see why some newcomers are put off the PvP scene.

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This isnt the case for Newbies... this happens to vet pvpr's too.

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asily done by goads and general mud-slinging in PvP combat. Usually starts when player A (newbie) complains that he's being assaulted by players

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When new pvper's enter a pvp Zone they should not moan,
they should understand that PvP is a lot more challenging than PVE, and you will not be fighting predictable mobs that
will struggle to defeat you through your super powers.

PVE'rs obvioulsy enter the combat zone with the mindset of a PVE player... "Im the most powerful thing on the map, and all you enemies are about to fall at my hands!", "and if I somehow faceplant it must have been a silly mistake I made"

When you PvE players enter a PvP Zone remember that you ARE going to die.

The hostility from PvPers towards Nubies probably comes from the whining that follows their beating.

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a section of the community that tends to actively discourage newcomers

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Every PvPer in Game was a newcomer at some point.
I dont see how they can actively discourage people?
Explain how this is done btw?

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Got to ask... how has this screwed you over? If you're a good PvPer, you'll still BE a good PvPer.

Or have these changes suddenly made you into a BAD PvPer? In which case I would question how much of your (generic you, not you specifically, btw) 'skill' is based on your pimped build.

Now, I haven't been keeping all up on the changes, so I don't know every tittle and jot of them, but if these changes encourage more people to try PvP... perhaps more of them will stay... so perhaps there will be more PvPers... which will encourage more people to try PvP... more of whom might stay...

See where I'm going with this?

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I see where your going with this... the Nationwide beat you to it,

Brand new PvPer's Only

Would be funny if it wasn't so sad.

As for being a bad pvper all of a sudden isn't my gripe.
I dunno how I would Fare in i13 better or worse... Its not all about the winning, its about the enjoyment. And if you look at the previous posts you can see many people feel that i13's changes will not be enjoyable.

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If PVP is so great now and I13 is nerfing it, then how come you are not all in the zones now and why have they been dead for ages?!!!!

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I have your simple answer to this...

Those who inhabit the zones are the ones that enjoy and take part in PvP on a regular basis. We are also the ones moaning about the changes.

The changes in i13 are to attract the non PvPers to Zones to try it out.

I am personally angry about this because they have in effect screw'd us over for the players that dont care about PvP.

Good Move Castle.
*Slow Clap*