Darth_Khasei

Of course exploits hurt AE, I agree with that 100%, but it still did show how people would use the tool given the opportunity. When the exploits were removed you still see a higher demand for farming in AE than story telling arcs and it has been that way from the start.

That is really no different from the rest of the game. Before AE all of the things you listed about spam and farms was just in PI instead of Atlas.

Of course at the beginning there was much more AE activity of all types, but the relative demand for players to play other players arcs has always been lower than many arc makers are willing to recognize and they in turn incorrectly place blame on farmers, farms or powerlevelers in general.

Getting a thousand or even several thousand people to play any players arc is still a relatively tiny number of the overall player population.


I am judging based on the entire deal as I was here since I8.

I said up thread as things that needed attention.

In the end, my contention is while there are things the devs can do to fix issues with AE and give it more attention( like updating the new powersets as asked by me and many others), the relative interest in running marysue's arc is going to remain relatively low.

I didn't make my story arc so that thousands of people would play it and rate it high and give me cyberspace notoriety etc....I made it because it was a story I wanted to make and play and if others liked it or even bothered to play it that was gravy no skin off my back either way.

I would say to others that are looking for as many plays as possible and internet notoriety etc... based on the current status of AE you might want to go the route of the Howard Zaine Trilogy: http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=278339

Which to me is pretty much mandatory if you want any plays in the high numbers at all. With hundreds of thousands of player arcs and hundreds of dev arcs, getting people to play your arc is increasingly difficult and the factors making it so have nothing to do with farming or powerleveling aside from them being more attractive to more people than any player or dev story arc.

awesome!

ok.

The ability to make a BM farm was there from the beginning. Exploit farms did nothing more than to show where the larger demand was in the MA. People looking to find Power leveling AE farms are not and were never interested in yours or anyone else's story arcs.


Which is nothing more than a reflection of the demand for player story arcs in general.

Which for those that are just interested in making an arc that anyone can play if they decided to do so would be happy with. However, if the motive is to have hundreds of people play the arc or even thousands then the promotion of the arc and desire for players to play the arc with reduced rewards and other handicaps come into play.

Yet the fact remains the vast majority of the people that play this game do not play it for the devs or anyone else's story. The other issues just compound the initial low demand.

I'm sorry but this is exactly what I mean about this issue. You listed a number of reasons then look to the devs to solve problems that are not their's to solve.

IMHO if people are not advertising their arc like this guy: http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=278339
and then some, they cannot expect too many plays if any.

People have way too many options for AE story arcs to be as popular as some would desire them to be and that is where the disconnect lies, residual feelings notwithstanding.

IDK man I don't play my PB the way you lay it out, but if you do I can see where the issue lies. If your damage aura is killing better than your PB then there are many things going wrong and kb is probably the least of them.

So this being the case, wth are people upset at it getting corrected?

The fact that you choose to look at the entire AT in such a narrow way makes me know that this is more of a style/preference issue than something being wrong. As stated above part of playing the PB is you can play it like a true blapper using hover(now with the solarfare change) and use the "toss effect" to your SERIOUS advantage. YMMV due to style preferences as I understand some people don't like to play toss it around while others use it to their advantage.

IDK, having worked in entertainment for many decades it just kind of bugs me that new fresh approaches to these kind of things too often get overridden by the Hollywood copycat syndrome. I know that with the amount of creative people that work within Paragon Studios that "someone" had a "different" and perhaps better way of handling taking this game to the next level of comic book/game storytelling.

I'd better dollars to doughnuts they got overruled in lieu of the tried and true method of killing the #1 guy. BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

I have both but I cannot say I see any kb powers in any set as griefing the other powers in the set. It does require a more tactical setup than powers without it, but that is just a style deal and certainly does not fall into the griefing realm.

I had no personal messages, just the ones made in general discussion that were er um...lets just say they were less than professional.

Because the guy was such a tool, understood.