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This is one of the reasons I always form my own teams. I can understand it being a problem for those that don't like to lead though (I much prefer to follow personally, but what can you do?).

Personally, teammates take priority over pets for heals barring certain circumstances (I'm obviously not going to sacrifice a pet to top somebody off), but maybe that's me. /shrug

I just checked again and it's definitely still CB. You'll be able to see the forums once you get the email; sometimes it takes awhile.

It has now... so, ummm.... OB NAO?











No? Poo...

Ok here's the thing, you guys keep citing how "other sets didn't have their radius nerfed." The problem is other sets' AoE heals heal for less than half that of TG. Other sets don't have a pet that *also* spams TG (which doesn't have a nerfed radius, and also uses control powers and has a massive passive To-Hit debuff).

When balancing sets you can't look at single powers in a vacuum, you have to look at the set as a whole. If TG's radius was buffed, you would be able to reduce mobs To-Hit to practically nothing (Darkest Night+Fluffy+TG), keep whole spawns feared (Fearsome Stare), and also heal a red-barred party to full in just a few heals (TG+Fluffy). The To-Hit check is not enough (nor is it that hard to get around if you just slot properly), it needs that radius reduction on TG to keep the set from being OP. Even with that, a lot of people have argued that /Dark is still OP.

If you want something changed then the burden of proof falls on you, not the people arguing against you. That's why I said you need to come up with some data demonstrating /Dark's lack of viability. If you want to use the other secondaries as your metric with which to compare the relative strength of /Dark, then you need to compare the entire set vs /Dark, not just the AoE heals.

Sometimes the email is late, the test server is indeed still closed to the huddled masses. You should post your concerns in the closed beta forums.

They moved it or deleted it outright because either a) there are already threads started in the CB forums about the subject or b) there aren't (which I doubt) and they want to respond to the problem in the CB forums.

Any issues you experience while in the CB must be posted in the CB forums; that is where they post, that is where they look for feedback. This forum is for when the CB goes Open. Until then do not post here if your problem is related to the CB, unless it involves getting the test client up and running or some such as the thread will be removed (eventually).

They look a lot better once they are upgraded. The skulls are bathed in fire, and the empty eye sockets glow. It's pretty cool actually.

Source: A video on YouTube that was taken down, no I am not in CB.

Nope, still won't let me in.

I just ran the Test updater and it dled and applied a 3.1 Gig patch. I've kept my Test client current as I run it every day to see if I got into the CB.

Lies!

Did it occur to you that TG's heal is balanced by BOTH a smaller radius AND a To-Hit check for MMs?

*Edit* Red-Repping me for disagreeing with you is classy btw...

Anyway, if you honestly want this changed then you need to stop with the "I think x because of y personal experience" or "I think x because of y AT has z" arguments. Run tests, gather data and post with objectivity. Subjectivity =/= changes in game design. Once you can post arguments that start w/ "I know for a fact" and end with data parses, then you'll be on to something

This is madness...











MADNESS!!!

Ya as Person said, the main thing you're forgetting is that TG heals for twice that of other AoE heals. Considering how good TG and /dark are as a whole, I'd say it's fine. It certainly does the job on my Necro/Dark amicably.

I'm sure a person more versed in law than I can come up with many more stupid (yet successful) lawsuits; that's just an example that I could think of ottomh.

I chose the wording "pain and suffering" because that is also what came to mind at the time. I would imagine an actual lawyer could think of a hundred inane things to sue NCSoft for far more compelling than "pain and suffering." I will be the first to admit that I don't have a Juris Doctor, however.

I took the Know-It-All crack to be a bit hostile, perhaps I'm just a softy.

I don't recall reading and accepting any ToS or EULA when making my perpurchase, though I very well may have just clicked past it and forgotten about it. Something to consider regarding liability: even if you write up a waiver (in w/e form) it doesn't mean it will hold up in court with absolute certainty.

If anyone was wondering, no I don't have any intention of suing NCSoft if DS is late; I don't care THAT much.

Exactly: sue for a refund + "pain and suffering", settle out of court, get pay off. Not saying it would work, but people have done crazier things (remember when McDonalds was sued because their coffee was "too hot"?). Bad publicity is bad publicity after all. Bad publicity=settlement

Why the hostility?

DS is going live with I17 for prepurchasers.

Ahh ok, thanks for the clarification. Well here's hoping for OB next week then. Kinda sucks that I17 most likely won't be going live for a few weeks yet though. I hate when "in x month" turns out to be on the last day a few seconds before midnight.

Well they could always break their promise, I find that unlikely however since they'd have a class action lawsuit on their hands.

Have they ever prepatched before the Issue was in OB before?