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It does, and it effects +/- special as well, like benumb and vanguard/megalomaniac.

Enhance them first, then worry about procs. At least 60+ acc and 90+ dam. Then one to procs if you have room.

What badskull said.

If this isn't trowing hate I am not sure what is. Way to come into a good natured thread and rant, then wonder why people aren't responding well to you.


This is not a strategy game, this is a mmorpg. Offense is offense period. Like I said earlier while you are doing your ultra cool ninja vanish rp trick a straight forward pvp build has already either almost killed or killed the target. Being cute is nice. Being efficient is better.


explain how using tp as a placate is offensive in any stretch of the imagination.


tell me how you coming in here with your rant was in way productive. And by the way when you call out the 'same 5-6 posters' that pretty much implies me. I am one of those, everyone knows it. So you want to come in and call the 'same posters' you called me out. Unlike the others I get paid to forum pvp from work so I can take the time to spare with you a little.


Just so you know, I don't really care. But thanks for the personal info. It makes me care.


Lets touch on the mature thing first. A couple points for you to ponder. One this is the internet. Noone has to be nice so its pretty rare they are. The internet in general brings out the worst in people. To think you were going to fins something different on a forum was silly. Make a video game forum it becomes even more silly. Make a video game where people wear spandex and shoot fish out thier hands and well, I think you get the point.


Now on to the close mindedness. This has been explained to you time and again in this thread. I will try again in hopes you can grasp this simple concept. There is a best in this game. All mmorpgs work this way. There is a reason in every mmoprg there is THAT build, and THAT team set up. Its because it what works best. Now when lil jonny noub pvper comes to the forums and asks 'what can I do to make my dark dark tank better' we should not lie to him and sugar coat his bad medicine. The fact is lil jonnys toon stinks for pvp, sure he can make it viable but it will never be that good and do we really want someone beating their heads into the wall with a substandard build in pvp. They will get frustrate and leave. Sometimes the best advice really is reroll. You may not like it, but its not really about what you like, its about the facts.

nice name drop in hopes he shows. Just so you know even if he does, noone has done anything wrong here. Except maybe you derailing a thread so you could have your litle rant because you needed attention.



Here is the big reason I take on this stuff with the likes of you and others like Sentry4 and Zen. I am smart enough to know how bad your ideas are for general pvp advice. The problem lies in the casual guy poking around for pvp advice. he punches in something fancy like ar+dev+pvp and next thing you know he comes to a Rahji post stating that flying tping ar devs are teh wicked cool in pvp and spends the next month trying to figure out what the hell he is doing wrong while he is getting farmed with little to no kills in pvp. See the thing is I don't care at all about you, but I do care about new players. Weekly I probably answer in the neighborhood of 20 pms from strangers asking advice. I probably make another 5 pms doing just builds for people. And thats just on the forums. In game you can about double that. You want to know what my least favorite thing to hear from people when I talk to them is. "but i heard x was good in pvp". People are impressionable. be careful what you throw out there. In your heart you have to know even though you enjoy ar dev fly tp that it is substandard. And you have pvped awhile. Now think of the new guy just starting out reading your post when you say that stuff. Think before you speak and I never say a word. Put some disclaimers on that stuff even and I can let it slide.


No, it always matters. You may choose to ignore it, but please realize that was your choice. the two main goals in pvp are 1 kill stuff and 2 don't die to stuff. Its not about trying hard. Its not about doing it on a tough build and doing alright. You can try to convince yourself otherwise but it won't be true. Just because you are not willing to commit to play to win doesn't mean you should spread the word thats how it should be. The fact is pvp is decided by who dies and who lives, plain and simple. Your rp doesn't matter here. And so you know your style isn't much except trying to twist words and facts to fit your agenda. And your swagger is more like a limp.



Look kid, even if you skip the rest read this part real close. The fact that you can't imagine and don't waste your time on it, guess what that means. You have zero right to complain about the same 5-6 pvp forum tards who do post. At least they are trying. It may not be what you want them to say, but at least they are doing something. You want aleg to stand on when it comes to complaining about said posters, get out ther do some leg work. test builds, work out real numbers, come up with builds, post and be helpful. Don't waste your time just dropping in to complain though, its not helpful or constructive. If you aren't part of the solution you must be the problem.


there is no common ground for us to reach if you want me to start saying bad stuff like ar dev fly tp is teh beast you just got to know how to play it. Its a bad powerset combo, its a bad build and I highly recommend anyone who reads any of this to never make on for serious pvp. Also keep your dreams alive of player and dev harmony. It was hopeful and optimistic in i12, now its just a pipe dream. Play with the cards they gave us and hope for the best, to want anything more will just lead to more bad times.

If you want to be witty and think you are winning all good, but lets be honest. If this gave xp they would have to wipe my toons and give me a 3 day ban. The only thing worse than your ideas on pvp is your actually forums pvp. Git wrekt sun.




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you find 8 and i find 8 and we give this a go? I will help you a little with this, you probably should not reply to this one. because the 7 other people you find will be pissed as hell when they get farmed.

Guess what mr mold breaker, placate is a defensive power. Nice strong logic there. Seems I was right.


Did you know with a conventional build in the time it took you to get off those 2 fancy snipe most people have rattled off a chain or two? Did you know that?


Rahji...do you know I pvped on stone stone tank for a very long time. And his only travel was tp. And that I could tp into the air and attack fliers with him. Because I was that damn good tp. Did you know thats an exception not a rule? Did you know that?


No, but there are combos of travel powers that offer more in battle maneuverability and aren't countered by someone spraying with sploo, or at least not as easily.


As successful as a fire/em/cold with ss and sj? If you answer yes, you are flatout lying to yourself. Yeah, you found a cool little niche for sniping people, congratz if people stay brain dead all day long you can farm them. Mad skilz sun.

You have been doing, not arguing that, just saying there are more effective ways to play. Plain and simple.

Been around at least as long as you, if not longer. And any time you want to go toe to toe with the knowledge feel free to bring it. What I lack in skill I make up for with having as much knowledge as possible.


Tell me what you know about me from my post if you want to play this game. That I only run spike teams with my psi em cold two buffers and all of us vent? Maybe you aren't as smart and clever as you think. I have posted several unconventional builds I play. I play taunt bot and disruption quite often as well. I do however know that fact that fly sucks in pvp and tp is a defensive travel power. You can try to twist your logic around it but trust me, those are facts.

I am going to guess seing you came in throwing the hate in what started as a good natured fun thread that it was probably your e peen that shrank. Sorry you have thin skin and take what people tell you in a video game so seriously that it stopped being fun for you. You can see professionals to help you with conditions like that. Maybe even some self medication could help.

Here is why you aren't special. You aren't thinking outside the box. You are wanting people to look in your box and go 'OH WOW THIS GUY HAS REINVENTED TEH PVP'. Truth be told though, flying blasters are bad though. Sure you get kills. Sure you are moderately survivable. Yes the more standard build wil die more often. The bottom line though your K : D ratio is not in the same stratosphere as a well played competent blaster.



Its cool you found something you like. I do respect it. This game is very niched based and you found yours.



Here is where I have the problem though. You preach it out like we have it all wrong and need to learn how to do things different. Want to know why we don't. I bet you almost every pvper at one time or another had a toon with fly, and we all found out that ss sj is more effective most the time. Pvp by nature is a min maxers paradise. There is little to no room for rp or concept without it effecting your build negatively. Now you can give up some effectiveness as a personal choice and 'gimp' yourself. But don't think you are awesome for doing it. Or that people who play fotms all need to learn how to play because they are taking the easy road. Fotms are fotms for a reason. The best builds get played the most. Sweet and simple. Most people who pvp do it to be successful. The best way to do that is to play proven builds. yes every now and then anew build is discovered, have you ever noticed though its generally by a skilled pvper who plays conventional toons normally. Odd ain't it. You would figure it would be someone like you.





also in case you missed it when Xanatos put it up for you


Go through and read your post in this thread and see what a massive pile of fail you are. Well played good sir, well played indeed.

Here's the thing Rahji, they do know what to do with it. You watch it get webnaded, then ased, then watch it respawn and happen again. Those teams do however know how to utilize different sets and strategies. Its really not the players fault that fly is so easliy a countered travel. And while tp has some perks it mainly a defensive power. Working with the system the devs gave us offense is king. To try to get it to work differently is all nice and rp like but the best is still the best. If you and your friends want to sit around and have an rpthon more power to you. We promise not to come to the rp threads and post useless crap.



Then go away. If you don't really take part, and you aren't really interested why interject your bull into it all?

You mean funner in the sense that you can hover snipe noubs who don't know how to look up so you can feel like you still are relevant in the pvp scene. Good for you, but a little sad news for you as well. You are not a special and unique snowflake. You aren't going to reinvent the wheel. Its not the rest of the world who has it all wrong and you are fighting for some righteous cause. You are just an old rper who like to shoot stuff with his toy gun. I can respect that, but please stop thinking you or your opinion matters.

You know me and barrier are two the people who used to post help back in the old pvp forums. And if you have been around long at all you would know the pvp forums used to never have anything about pvp in them.


Again with the fotm point. Look I know it was hard to read before but I will try again. My signature toon is grav elec. I pvp on an ice dev blaster. Barrier pvps on several sub standard/non fotm builds. Mac makes everything look like it could never be a fotm. So yeah whatever on that point.


As far as pling is ripe for the testing I think you missed some patch notes. We had our free 50s and yes you can still pl, but it lost alot of its luster with the ae 'refinements'. Testing stuff out is not near as easy as it used to be. Then throw in the cost and time to io something and the investment becomes substantial.



I have been pvping for quite some time, and shocking mostly on 'gimp' toons. My first and main blast on Justice was ice/fire. My second pvp toon was a mind ff. I know how to make things work. but in all honest if someone comes along looking for advice along the lines of 'how do i make my ar/dev a killing machine' the real answer is reroll as psi or fire/em. The difference in what the builds can achieve can not be circumvented by any outside the box thinking. No amount of ios or build tweaks can close the gap. Now if they come back and say something like well how can I make it the best it can be I can assure that more than likely me, mac or barrier will probably post a build and/or advice for them. Where do I ever see you with any helpful insight? If you aren't part of the solution they say, you are part of the problem. Well my good sir you seem to have well established now that you are indeed part of the problem.

SoW you will end up disliking. Its -recovery on crash is brutal, though with hiber you will be alright its way skippable. The only reason I ever had it in my build was back when kb protection suppressed for the kb io mule. Keep your eye out for Emcee Bad Beat, thats my stalker.

Its because we are the only ones who post about pvp any more, don't like it don't read it.



My signature toon is a grav elec dom. Its one of the reasons I chuckle at people telling me to play something other than fotms. But being a huge stalker of the pvp posters I am sure you knew that.



I dare you to go through my entire posting history and find one time I say defense is useless. Want to know what you will find instead, me saying defense is underrated. Get your glasses fixed or your memory.


There is currently a ss/fire brute where all the 'we only know how to spike' crowd is telling a guy to learn how to be a taunt bot/disruption. Maybe if you are going to read all our post and moan about you could try something crazy like reading the damn post.



Speaking in general terms we are actually the people who come up with different ideas. Then we waste our own time pling stuff slotting it out and testing. Again maybe think before you speak.




Which would be 100% more useful than anything you have posted so gfg.



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