Slotting recommendation for staminaless stalker
By
BigSung,
Posted on: 2010-01-13 24:09 in Everything about PvP
Well, given that you're posting this in the PvP forum, I'd forget about Stamina
entirely - for a Stalker. Your stealth gives you the advantage of picking
when you start/enter a fight, so you don't need to sweat it - go in when
you're ready.
Also, in PvP, you're not going to get into extended fights - you'll be dead
by then, or he will... 
So, I slot my attacks for Acc/Dmg/Rch, and I aim for 60% / 95% / 60%
respectively. If you have any other accuracy bonuses (Kismet, set
bonuses - like Crushing Impact or Thunderstrike) you'll be soft capped vs
any NPCs and many (if not most) players in Acc.
After that, if you have slot-room, I'd think about Procs - things that have
a chance to cause more dmg etc.
If you're Stalker is a L50, you might also want to look at Hami-O's to help
meet those target numbers, but it's fairly easy to do with just Set IO's in
the L25-L50 range (depending on where you want bonuses to work also).
Regards,
4
PS> I've yet to slot a purple into anything - if you don't care about expense,
or you feel you MUST have them, go for it... They're better, from a pure
numbers standpoint, but your toon can perform just fine without them.
I've been rich, and I've been poor. Rich is definitely better.
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For every seller who leaves the market dirty stinkin' rich,
there's a buyer who leaves the market dirty stinkin' IOed. - Obitus.
I will pretty much go against everything 4speed says and say slotting end reduction is huge. I play my elec/wp/soul quite a bit in pvp to farm pvpos. It could use some more procs in the attacks but it takes a long time for him to run down on end. And sometimes in zone you do actually end up scrapping it out so +recovery and end reduction can be key. This is the pretty much the build I run on live, you can tweak it some to add in mako and such but it gives you a good idea of what actually works.
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Level 50 Natural Stalker
Primary Power Set: Electrical Melee
Secondary Power Set: Willpower
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Concealment
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery
Villain Profile:
Level 1: Havoc Punch -- Mako-Acc/Dmg(A), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx(37), Mako-Dmg/Rchg(37), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37), FtnHyp-Acc/Rchg(40), FtnHyp-Plct%(43)
Level 1: Hide -- Ksmt-ToHit+(A)
Level 2: High Pain Tolerance -- ImpArm-ResDam(A), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(3), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(3), ImpArm-EndRdx/Rchg(11), Mrcl-Heal/Rchg(34), Mrcl-Heal(36)
Level 4: Reconstruction -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(A), Dct'dW-Heal(5), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(5), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(7), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(7), Numna-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(11)
Level 6: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 8: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(9), RechRdx-I(9)
Level 10: Mind Over Body -- ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(A), ImpArm-EndRdx/Rchg(36), ImpArm-ResDam(36), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(46)
Level 12: Assassin's Shock -- Mako-Acc/Dmg(A), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(13), Mako-Dam%(13), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(15), Hectmb-Acc/Rchg(15), Hectmb-Dmg(17)
Level 14: Super Speed -- Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(17), Clrty-Stlth(27)
Level 16: Indomitable Will -- HO:Enzym(A)
Level 18: Build Up -- GSFC-Build%(A), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(19), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(19), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(27), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(40)
Level 20: Heightened Senses -- RedFtn-EndRdx(A), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(21), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(21), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg(23), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(25)
Level 22: Placate -- RechRdx-I(A), Range-I(23)
Level 24: Stealth -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(25), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(50)
Level 26: Invisibility -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 28: Thunder Strike -- FotG-Acc/Dmg(A), FotG-Acc/End/Rech(29), FotG-Acc/Dmg/End/Rech(29), FotG-Dam/End/Rech(33), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), Erad-%Dam(34)
Level 30: Fast Healing -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Numna-Heal(31), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(31), Mrcl-Rcvry+(31), Mrcl-Heal(33), Mrcl-Heal/Rchg(33)
Level 32: Phase Shift -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 35: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 38: Tactics -- AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx(A), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg(39), AdjTgt-EndRdx/Rchg(39), AdjTgt-ToHit/Rchg(39), AdjTgt-ToHit(40)
Level 41: Lightning Rod -- FotG-Acc/Dmg(A), FotG-Dam/End/Rech(42), FotG-Acc/End/Rech(42), FotG-Acc/Dmg/End/Rech(42), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), Erad-%Dam(43)
Level 44: Dark Blast -- Dev'n-Acc/Dmg(A), Dev'n-Dmg/EndRdx(45), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(45), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(45), HO:Centri(46), Cloud-%Dam(46)
Level 47: Shadow Meld -- RedFtn-EndRdx(A), RedFtn-Def(48), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(48), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg(48), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(50)
Level 49: Super Jump -- Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(50)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Assassination
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Set Bonus Totals:
- 22.5% DamageBuff(Smashing)
- 22.5% DamageBuff(Lethal)
- 22.5% DamageBuff(Fire)
- 22.5% DamageBuff(Cold)
- 22.5% DamageBuff(Energy)
- 22.5% DamageBuff(Negative)
- 22.5% DamageBuff(Toxic)
- 22.5% DamageBuff(Psionic)
- 6.25% Defense(Fire) (in PvP)
- 6.25% Defense(Cold) (in PvP)
- 3.13% Defense(Energy)
- 3.13% Defense(Negative)
- 3.75% Defense(Psionic)
- 6.25% Defense(Ranged)
- 3.13% Defense(AoE) (in PvP)
- 8.1% Max End
- 9% Enhancement(Accuracy)
- 42.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
- 4% Enhancement(Heal)
- 5% FlySpeed
- 144.6 HP (12%) HitPoints
- 5% JumpHeight
- 5% JumpSpeed
- Knockback (Mag -6)
- Knockup (Mag -6)
- MezResist(Immobilize) 11%
- MezResist(Repel) 2000% (10% chance, in PvP)
- MezResist(Terrorized) 2.2%
- 20.5% (0.34 End/sec) Recovery
- 34% (1.71 HP/sec) Regeneration
- 20% ResEffect(FlySpeed) (in PvP)
- 20% ResEffect(RechargeTime) (in PvP)
- 20% ResEffect(RunSpeed) (in PvP)
- 7.56% Resistance(Fire)
- 7.56% Resistance(Cold)
- 1.26% Resistance(Energy)
- 1.26% Resistance(Negative)
- 5% RunSpeed
Duel me.
I will work on my sig pic more when I have time.
lol regen
Thx ConFlict for the build. It's pretty close to the build that I respec'd into, but I ended up going with Mako for shark and hibernate (plus phase). I also skipped on Fast Healing for SoW for end recovery purposes. As for slotting, on my pve build I had set of ToD on Havoc Punch, set of Mako's on AS, and set of Obliteration on both Thunder Strike and Lightning Rod. In order to pull other IO's out first, I kept them there for now. Since I have several respecs left on the toon, I will change them at a later time.
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Originally Posted by BigSung
Thx ConFlict for the build. It's pretty close to the build that I respec'd into, but I ended up going with Mako for shark and hibernate (plus phase). I also skipped on Fast Healing for SoW for end recovery purposes. As for slotting, on my pve build I had set of ToD on Havoc Punch, set of Mako's on AS, and set of Obliteration on both Thunder Strike and Lightning Rod. In order to pull other IO's out first, I kept them there for now. Since I have several respecs left on the toon, I will change them at a later time.
If you see "Ms. Danielle" that's me. See you in Freedom RV. |
SoW you will end up disliking. Its -recovery on crash is brutal, though with hiber you will be alright its way skippable. The only reason I ever had it in my build was back when kb protection suppressed for the kb io mule. Keep your eye out for Emcee Bad Beat, thats my stalker.
Duel me.
I will work on my sig pic more when I have time.
"I will pretty much go against everything 4speed says and say slotting end reduction is huge."
Thats why the forums is a good place to discuss these things...different perspectives and playstyles.
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Interesting. I'll have to take a look at this build when I get home later...|
Originally Posted by ConFlict
I will pretty much go against everything 4speed says and say slotting end reduction is huge. I play my elec/wp/soul quite a bit in pvp to farm pvpos. It could use some more procs in the attacks but it takes a long time for him to run down on end. And sometimes in zone you do actually end up scrapping it out so +recovery and end reduction can be key. This is the pretty much the build I run on live, you can tweak it some to add in mako and such but it gives you a good idea of what actually works.
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I haven't played Electrical at all, and only dabbled with Willpower (I tend
to enjoy the variety of toys that /nin offers).
I'm guessing we have very different playstyles. None of my PvP stalkers have
Stamina and I don't miss it at all. In some rare PvE cases, it can be a small
issue, but that's what CaB's are for...
It's never been a PvP problem for me.In terms of slotting, all of my attacks are Frankenslotted, so there is
typically 1 SO or more worth of ERdx in them in addition to maximizing the
Acc/Dmg attributes.
Finally, I don't get into "extended" PvP fights for a few reasons:
1> I don't FiteClub (not saying you do). So, the whole dueling, extended,
slugfest simply doesn't happen in my case.
2> I run in zone (SC mostly). Heroes play in teams there - it's typically only
a few seconds before they gang-up for a gankfest in most cases. Once I pop
in, I'm pretty much assured the cavalry is on it's way. I prefer to kill my
target and be gone before they arrive.
3> I hate dying more than I enjoy killing. For me this, and point #2 really
influence when and how I pick my battles, and how long I'll stick around...
The good news is now the OP has a couple ways of looking at the issue, and
we're both pretty comfortable that the way we use works for each of us.
Regards,
4
I've been rich, and I've been poor. Rich is definitely better.
Light is faster than sound - that's why some people look smart until they speak.
For every seller who leaves the market dirty stinkin' rich,
there's a buyer who leaves the market dirty stinkin' IOed. - Obitus.
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Yup, definitely appreciate the feedbacks. Gives things to think about. Try them out, and then adapt to my playstyle.|
Originally Posted by FourSpeed
The good news is now the OP has a couple ways of looking at the issue, and
we're both pretty comfortable that the way we use works for each of us. |
I would have never tried out Staminaless as I don't like running out of end; however, for stalkers, especially elec/wp, seems to be fine so far. It helps that you can control the engagement. I'm still missing tons of IOs especially the heavy duty procs, but I have one PvP IO that I will be putting up for sale, so that should help out a bit.
my spines/regen stalker runs with 2.5end/s recovery inside a pvp zone.
that's a good guideline if you intend on spamming a certain attack (be it sharks, thunderstrike or impale).
my elec/ea runs with around 2.20end/s, but i use it mostly for KB's, so i'm in godmode 50% of the time and conserve power lets me get away with the rest. running 9 toggles is pretty nuts though.
How would you slot the following attacks for a staminaless Elec/WP/Mako stalker:
roc)
Thunderstrike (6 slots):
AS (6 slots):
Shark (6 slots):
Havoc Punch (5 or 6 slots): should I slot for purples (Fortunata) set bonus or actually slot for attack (will have at least the Fortunata